Is 'Indie' the New 'Hipster'?

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According to my students, looking dreamy in a field is the pinnacle of indie.

As a young L.A. high school teacher, I share a generational moment with my students but often view them as daft friends or little siblings, distortedly mirroring the pursuits of people my own age with less tact and more insecurity.

When the word "indie" began to crop up in overheard lunchtime conversations without reference to independently produced movies or music, I assumed it was synonymous with a word I rarely hear teenagers use: hipster, the controversial term for artsy-cool that emerged in the late nineties, inspired furious debate in the mid-00s and now refers broadly to anyone under 40 with creative ambitions, vintage clothing or obscure musical tastes.

I imagined that in its unquenchable quest for the new new thing and to avoid the shame of having become played out, hipster had molted its letters then set them aflame, emerging from the ashes as indie, gorgeous and dripping and rebranded. But the term actually represents a subtle shift in what it means to be cool.

According to my students, "Indie is sort of like you don't care. You're independent from the society." Like hipster, indie is frequently assigned to peers who smack of the unconventional, but few self-identify and admit the label describes them. One of my students told me the word triggers defensive posturing from her classmates. "I'll be like, 'Ha, you look indie today,'" she said, and whoever she's addressing will respond, "'I'm not indie. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm just dressing like this. This is how I dress.'"

Hipster began as a way for outsiders to denote those who follow what's new and fashionable but quickly morphed into an insulting meme. Hipsters have been accused of destroying western civilization, New York cool and the homeless paradise of Downtown L.A.. The linguistic problem arose because hipster became associated with trends and not with specific groups of people -- it's easier to state categorically that vegetarianism, leggings and Etsy are hipster than it is to prove that my friend Jeff is one.

Someone who is truly indie, on the other hand, subscribes to no trends. Of course there have always been people like this in high school, but individuality has only recently become so coveted by the masses, inverting the traditional relationship between popular and cool. In the past, things that were cool became popular. Now, anything that is popular by definition is uncool.

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The concept was often explained to me this past school year in terms of those who are trying but fail to be indie, e.g. almost everyone. To teens, someone who is indie is naturally a little eccentric, while wannabes develop insincere eccentricities, for show. One student told me that a group of girls she knew had purchased identical ugly bracelets "to be more indie, because they don't go with anything. It's intentionally trying to be like you don't care, but you do care, obviously," she said. "It's like when people spend hours on their hair to make it look messy."

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When I pressed for more details, a student identified a classmate she considered indie, explaining, "She does not care what she wears. She wears what she thinks is intensely awesome." Um, what? As much logical sense as that made, I came to understand that, with the shift from hipster to indie, cool became not connoisseurship but ignorance. Cool is no longer associated with a look or a band; cool is ignoring a look or a band.

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So while indie directly refers to whether or not a person is original, hipster confusingly refers to both those early adopters who determine what will be cool AND those who pick up the same styles at mainstream stores like Urban Outfitters and American Apparel six months later. In an attempt to clarify the word "hipster," some distinguish between the two bearded boys in skinny jeans and enormous glasses waiting in line for PBR at the Gold Room by saying the true hipster does what he enjoys, while the poseur cares more about being the first to know something than about taking pleasure from the thing itself.

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As knowledge about new bands and runway shows became freely available to anyone with Internet access, indie, and not hipster, came to represent the values and desires of high school students. Now that teens spend about three hours a night on Facebook, scrolling through daily dispatches from hundreds of people and knowing that same bored audience will see whatever they post, it's become far more important to jump out from the news feed with an entertaining quip or amazing photograph, to showcase yourself as unique.

But being indie sounds damn near impossible, the Platonic ideal of 21st century living. Indie implies honest-to-god avoidance of anything collectively acknowledged, a nostalgic denial of the Internet's existence. As much as they might pretend otherwise, IRL most teens are hyperaware of trends and actively cultivate their online personas. The paradox of this effortless individuality that my students seem to value so highly is that you need to know what's cool in order to avoid it; in avoiding what's cool you are trying to be different, and in trying you are no longer indie.

It might have been possible to not try before Mark Zuckerberg left the space blank for you to broadcast the narrative you created for yourself to the world, just as it might have been possible to feel truly original before an instantly searchable multimedia compendium of cultural artifacts and explanations became available.

No group has stood up to claim the hipster identity or speak for hipsters, but innumerable young people have anxiously denied participation while debating who was and who wasn't a hipster, just as my students debate who is and who isn't indie and insist that they themselves are neither indie nor wannabe. I'd argue that this discomfort with being identified is the movement, the key to understanding anyone under the age of 30.

Youth culture has backed itself into a corner. Pressured by parents, liberal arts institutions and even corporations to be ourselves, to think for ourselves, to Think Different, we desperately try to be original even as mounting market research undermines our best efforts and makes us feel as though our personalities and preferences have been algorithmically determined. The sniping over wannabes underlies a sense of demographic anxiety in the age of no privacy: the pervasive but unspoken feeling among both my peers and my students that anything we do is immediately documented, dissected and dismissed as trite.

Now how can anyone be indie in a world like that?

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19 comments
JSchu
JSchu

I realize this article is now over a year old, but I thought I would provide some input.

I find your article insightful and well thought out, the amount of information here and some of these senseless ebbing ideas you've managed to explained in a way that makes sense is impressed. However, I feel the very premise is very flawed. Early Millenials and Gen X'ers (the former which I am a part of, class of 1985) that I knew were Indie (genuinely by your description) and I think we sort of enjoyed the fact that that entire segment seemed to exist outside of the attention of most people. I think that at some point, it began to gain attention and that is what eventually became perverted into the brazen Hipster of today. The "Indie" concept is not born out of the current Hipster fad, but rather the other way around. As you suspected, it's cyclical.

Elijah Rual Torn
Elijah Rual Torn

It would appear that a "true hipster" is really no different than a "true indie", according to your taxonomy; what really is the difference between being "ahead of" or "adverse to" a trend? If you're a "true hipster" who is ahead of a trend, this would indicate that there are no frames of reference, and that you are simply "adverse to trends"(like indies), which may potentially produce the next kindling for the wild fire. Isn't that similar to the parasitic relationship of indies and wannabe indies? More generally, there are progenitors and repeaters of signals. In nature, you'll most likely find many more repeaters. Good article though. Very insightful and well thought out.

Acacia
Acacia

I loved this! all soo true!

Saint Muno @)
Saint Muno @)

ughh, too much thought put into defining youth! indie is indiependant culture that is diy and made up as you go along, all those kids sound like dirty fucking hipsters primed as blogger fodder! when i dress really hipster it is always toung in cheek unless done inadvertantly like buying vintage cameras off etsy... with my parents money. and thrifting... but thats more a financial thing.

Richy Raymond
Richy Raymond

just as it might have been possible to feel truly original, and it's to technology  to broadcast the narrative  to the world.

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John Doe
John Doe

Hipsters this term in a Ny term why California??

Amanda Lewis
Amanda Lewis

I actually hear people use the term "hipster" all of the time in Los Angeles!

Jacob
Jacob

New name, same old thing.  When I was younger it was alternative. 

Mjamg
Mjamg

Hipsters were def around before and they represented something completely other than what they represent now. It had political merit and allowed for people to hv an opinion and or did NOT focus on trends or anti-trends. This sort of reminds me of when I was in high school and being 'punk' was so in and cool. My youth killed the idea of punk. Nameless 15 yr olds running around with the infamous A for anarchy branded on their shirts. But who is to hold them accountable? Young minds aren't responsible for picking up a trend and not being able to fully support the ideology behind it. We were all there once and prob still are. It becomes very difficult in our American society to be an individual and know exactly who and what you represent. My hope/wish is this... At some point we need to pause and realize that by being nonconformist we are jst conforming to nonconformity. Does that make sense?

Ktulu1289
Ktulu1289

not really. theres no such thing has nonconforming theres only being yourself. if someone says there not going to be a certain way but acts like these people over here then there just perpetuating this false reality of cool. for one to truly be "cool" one has to be nonchalant.

Mike Watson
Mike Watson

Hipsters are far more dangerous than these 'indie kids'. While indie kids are usually just harmless children, disillusioned by their social parent's anti-capitalism speeches at home, hipster actively engage in lifestyles that are hurting America.  Fox analyst and cultural sociologist Tyson Bowers III has greatly warned against these little minstrils and their emo-hippie culture that's destroying America.  http://christwire.org/2011/07/...

leo1973
leo1973

Back in the late 80's/early 90's, when "cool" meant "popular" the "alternative" kids knew the "popular" kids were douchebags. So I guess nothing has changed, just the labels.

Elijah Rual Torn
Elijah Rual Torn

in the LATE EIGHTIES when cool meant popular? just because that happens to be the time when you were around high-school kids that used the jargon doesn't mean that circle has changed after you became an old douche-nozzle.

Amanda Lewis
Amanda Lewis

I agree that not much has changed in terms of certain people going against the mainstream for the sake of it or because what was popular didn't jive with their own preferences, but I really do think that there is much more *pressure* to be original these days than there was twenty five years ago.  

Fart
Fart

thumbs down

Annabelle
Annabelle

What.  The.  Hell.  "Indie" and "indie kids" have been around long before the first "hipsters" cropped up.

volderbork
volderbork

"hipsters" have been around for decades. The meaning may have changed but they've been around forever.

Smear
Smear

I just farted...

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