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There is not a Holocaust in Gaza. I don't understand why everything that Israel does, is being linked to the Holocaust. Whether pro-Israel people do that, or the other side. Israel is doing wrong in Gaza, and I think Obama is a coward for being silent, but these kinds of cartoons.. I find wrong.
Posted On: Tuesday, Jan. 13 2009 @ 5:07AMYeah Mr. Fish!
Can't you see it's wrong to to criticize Israel? All the poor Israrelis are doing are incarcerating children, creating and sustaining an apartheid, stealing land, oppressing a people, mass murder, creating a society where merits are based on faith and race, starving a people, legitimizing every human rights violation in the book...that's not holocaust! Shame on you!
Posted On: Tuesday, Jan. 13 2009 @ 9:24AMMass murder?? Get your facts straight. If you read what I said correctly, I am not at all defending Israel. I'm defending the victims. ALL victims.
Posted On: Tuesday, Jan. 13 2009 @ 11:54AMGee S,
Who said anything about mass murder? The state of Israel didn't murder anybody. Noam Chomsky's 'Fateful Triangle' documenting Israel's atrocities doesn't exist. And there are certainly no Palestinian victims. Goodness no! The year by year death toll and state executions simply do not exist. Who was stupid enough to say shooting missiles from F-15's against civilian infrastructure --civilian homes as mass murder? Israelis are not murderers and the only victims are clearly Israel.
Posted On: Tuesday, Jan. 13 2009 @ 12:30PMYou said Mass murder. That's what I was responding to. And if death penality is mass murder, you can count a lot of other countries with Israel, which would take the meaning of the word. And that would be terrible. And don't shove me in a pro-Israel position. That's ridiculous. I said 'Israel is doing wrong in Gaza'. But you are clearly a little dillusional, and unjustly sarcastic. Doesn't work buddy. To use 'Holocaust' and 'Mass murder' unjustly, you reduce its meaning, and increase the gibberish nonsense. I see you weren't talking to *me*, because I think Israel does wrong too. And you don't want that. You want a clear-cut evil enemy. You are talking to a shade instead.
Posted On: Tuesday, Jan. 13 2009 @ 2:50PMOh, I'm sorry--thanks for correcting me. The Israelis were merely administering the death penalty on Palestinians. Death penalty on men, women and children as they have violated the sanctified laws of the State of Israel. Thanks for clarifying. When a state carries out repeated mass killings of a defenseless, subjugated people, it is not murder. (Maybe the IDF were throwing nerf balls instead of missiles.) Whew! Man, what was I thinking? Should we say, 'neutralizing vital signs of population centers via ballistic instruments' or even more clean, first enclosing them in ghettos and then implementing the final solution--like Sabra and Shatila.
Hey, you know what? Let's make some stuff up and put it on wikipedia so that is becomes true!
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 3:16AMGee you mean not read books like Patrick Seal's 'Abu Nidal', books by Edward Said, Chomsky, Robert Fisk, Mourid Bargouti, Joe Sacco, Gore Vidal, picturesque reports by Kevin Sites, reports by Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, and even some Israeli Journalists (subsequently labelled 'self-hating') for revealing atrocities committed for the glory of Israel? Not citing sources? Denying all this careful research and reports. Gee, I bet all those journalists, scholars, and human rights groups made it up just like you said! Then I should throw in a non-sequitor, just like you!
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 8:55AMWhat the hell is your goal here? You want me to become pro-Israel so you can fight me? I'm sorry. I'm not pro-Israel. But I don't have my eyes wide shut either. There is a whole lot of propaganda, you know very well. You seem to know a lot of what is going on...There. In Canada. Get real.
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 10:24AMSeriously, what do you *know*? You read what you want to read, and you hear what you want to hear. That is easy man. Really. Try to read the pieces you don't want to read with an open mind. Try to see what you really don't want to see, and maybe you'll become more tolerable.
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 10:27AMYou almost make me pro-Israel with your hatred. I could do that, you'd like that. I could say: why does Hamas shoot from mosques and school and then put children in there so they get shot? I could say things like that. Hell there is even 'proof' on youtube. Of course, when are facts true? I don't think it is proof, since Israeli soldiers can easily manipulate footage. I don't believe, however, that Jewish people are evil. I don't believe in Good and Evil. That's so Bushish. And that empire, is OVER.
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 10:30AMwhere is the guys hatred ? cant see any there. if you want hatred for israel talk to me man. israelis should leave palestine in shame and all go to america - they seem to be running it from there anyway, so why not go somewhere they are welcome. americas stance on israel will remain the same despite baracks rhetoric and peoples hope for 'change' . that change will never come - the empire is *far* from over..
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 12:51PMHey S.
Let's all deny carefully researched evidence! Let's deny oppression by Israel! Let's equate criticism of Israel with with anti-Semitism! Even better, let's watch Fox news!
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 5:17PMapart from the well oiled anti semtic bullshit you get when being even slightly critical the other one thats used often is the change the subject one. carefully pick what you can argue against out of a post and ignore the embarrassing facts that you cant argue.call em a liberal, call em anything as long as you dont admit israel is WRONG to commit mass murder or collective punishment or whatever you call it. this idea is sick and quite amazing really when coming from a so called civilised country. 4th largest nuclear power is it ? fighting against stones and home made rockets. and why do these people fire the rockets ? one thats missing from the press it seems. btw man is just a colloquialism. it can be interchanged between sexes mrs nostrildumbass.
Posted On: Wednesday, Jan. 14 2009 @ 8:37PMDid you all seem to forget the cartoon? I am supposed to claim you are anti-semists? Where the hell did I write that? I used the word 'hatred' because it seems like hatred to me; About Israel's policies. Don't make stuff up! I said I don't like the Holocaust being linked to anything that happens in Israel NOW. And in my initial and further posts, I am critical of Israel you morons. YOU DONT READ. Why the heck are you giving *me* this BS? And YOU can't *argue* your silly *facts* because you dont know if they are true, asshole
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 15 2009 @ 3:57AMBlind sighted morons. I AM NOT PRO-ISRAEL!!!!! Get it? I don't deny oppression by Israel, get it? I don't equate criticism of Israel with with anti-Semitism, mister Khider. It's interesting that you can write so well, without being able to read.
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 15 2009 @ 4:04AMhttp://www.seruv.org.il/English/discussion/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=960&PN=0&TPN=3
Right. Man man man man Weston. You are incredibly informed. You've read Noam, just like mister Khider, and you've searched on Google. You equal Bush to Hitler, you express your desire to kill several people. Yes, I can't argue with such eloquent open minded people such as you.
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 15 2009 @ 4:20AMBoy S., You sure put me in my place! I guess I was foolish to interpret "I don't believe, however, that Jewish people are evil." as your way of saying criticizing Israel is anti-Semetism.
Tell you what, since no one is dying in Gaza--and Israel never killed any Palestinian--why don't you go there right now? Prove to us that all these reports on mass murder and oppression is just fictitious? Go ahead, I'll be right here. (Maybe you don't think anyone killed in Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, etc. are not worth a body count since you think they are not human?) Wave to the camera while in Gaza.
Meanwhile, the IDF is calling you for your next tour--you better go. Maybe you'll get lucky and a Palestinian kid will throw a rock and knock some sense into you.
Boy the BBC sure is anti-semetic for posting this! How dare they!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4380067.stm
Hey Kris,
You are anti-Semetic for thinking that Israel does not have the sole right to execute whomever they want, whenever they want at will! You are anti-American for thinking that George Bush's foreign policy is detrimental to humanity. Israel has the sole right to mark numbers on the arms of Palestinians like in Auschwitz (you may find those facts in something called a library, S.--when you finish your next IDF tour, open something called a 'book' marked 'Fateful Triangle' It is not just something you burn, you know.).
And of course, Mr. Fish is highly irresponsible for insinuating that based on the atrocities committed against Jews in the late 30's and 40's that the children of survivors would be less likely to become what their parents and great grand parents grandparents feared.
Hey I get it! Let's all hope that when Palestinians and Pan-Arab and Persian peoples rise up, and overthrow the state of Israel--they treat Israelis EXACTLY as well as Israelis have been treating Palestinians the last half century! S. Would know!
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 15 2009 @ 8:48AMWTF?? Ok. You know what? It's fine. Whatever you think I mean, whatever you think I am, whatever. I'm focussing my energy on other things now. Thanks for the interesting talks, though. i mean that.
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 15 2009 @ 9:15AMToo bad S.,
I sincerely hoped you would prove that Israelis were not engaged in mass murder, theft and other atrocities in Gaza and throughout occupied Palestine. I thought you would meticulously cite sources on how Palestinians are living well, and incidents like Sabra and Shatila are 'made up on Wikipedia'. That Professor Chomsky is a liar, liar, pants on fire. That you would cite better sources than a forum where grievances are exchanged, rather than bombs and bullets that kill people. And above all Fox News is not funnier than a Bill Hicks skit.
Tell you what: if you prove that the state of Israel are not oppressors, I'll hop in that IDF jeep and ride off into the sunset with you.
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 15 2009 @ 10:43AMAs heard from the mouth of an Israeli @ an ANTI-ISRAEL gathering in NYC (Courtesy of Democracy Now!)
"We (Israel) have been on the other end of a situation like this before, and we know better (than to do what we are doing in Gaza)".
Stop the killing, protest.
-origin
Posted On: Sunday, Jan. 18 2009 @ 1:27PMIsrael starving Gaza with an 18 month blockade is a war crime. Israel surrounding Gaza with a fence and an internal buffer of 1800 feet is a war crime. Israel raiding Gaza on November 4, 2008 to assasinate Hamas officials is a war crime. Israel instigating a coup by Fatah against Hamas is a war crime. Israel dropping DIME, depleted uranium bombs, phosphorus bombs, flechette, bunker busters and anything else Uncle Sam gave them is a war crime. Israel is not the poor little victim in this. Some of the posters here need to get more information instead of dribbling out the gruel spoon fed to them by the Israeli , Christian Taliban, and US media propaganda machine.
Posted On: Thursday, Jan. 22 2009 @ 7:28PMThis is incredible!! Y'all are blind or something??
I AM NOT PRO ISRAEL AND I THINK ISRAEL DOES WRONG. I've said that like 5 times now, and still I'm shoved in a pro-Israel corner. You dumb retards!
Btw, origin, What *one* Israeli said about 'we Israel' is not to be taken seriously. Or is it? I'm Dutch. We, the Dutch, all like cheese. Now that I've stated it, it must be a fact
Posted On: Sunday, Jan. 25 2009 @ 10:52AMRead Mearsheimer and Walt's "The Israel Lobby" and learn how we (in the US) have become just as complicit in this murderous madness. Shameful!
Posted On: Monday, Jun. 1 2009 @ 10:07AM
