Prop. 8 Trial: Stanford Professor Says Obama 'Not a Reliable Ally'

• Looking back, after the Obama administrations efforts around the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, and announcement it no longer accepts DOMA as constitutional, I think this analysis may turn out to be wrong. I hope so.

• Terrific thread. Thanks a lot. Certainly, it often looks you're keying in towards the cyber-breezes�. then, another person will leave a opinion that really connects you to the outside you now know you are in a community.

• Any vet who has served in the military knows that gay and lesbian troops are a fact. In fact, you would have to be blind or stupid not to realize that some of your brothers and sisters in blood are gay and lesbian. That said, who sleeps with whom is irrelevant when it come to the grim business of war. Every competent and professional soldier, airman, sailor, and marine is needed in order to secure the freedoms that Americans know and love. Freedom is not free. Freedom costs blood. All liberty-loving Americans support the END to discrimination. Since 2012 is around the corner, a serious and viable candidate for President needs to be identified and properly funded. [All smooth-talkers and b-s-ers need not apply.]

• Discrimination against gay and lesbian Americans who are military fighting men and women is so anachronistic as to be no more than a vestigial limb on the body of the American military. Unlike President Obama, who never served a day in the military, President Harry S Truman WAS an American fighting man who displayed qualities of leadership, bravery, and courage under fire. President Truman desegrated the military in 1948...20 years before the rest of (racist) American society caught up--and President Truman was NO social liberal; he just realized that American fighting manpower was stronger WITH Blacks integrated than segregated. It is difficult for President Obama to stand up to the neanderthals under his command because the president lacks military experience�and credibility. That is why he often looks to be bumbling, stumbling, unsure, and clueless. That is why the idiots under his command treat him like a naive sissy who can be routinely pimp-slapped. After President Obama finishes his first (and only) term, it would seem as though the next president will have the military cred to completely dismantle the archaic practice of discrimination against gay military members. When fighting two simulaneous wars, every able and ready fighting man and fighting woman is gratefully welcomed by all liberty-loving Americans who realize that freedom is not free�and that freedom costs blood.

• 2010 is a great year for cars, olympics and being broke!!

• Here's from an article published on February 14, 2010: ' Obama's national security adviser, retired Marine Gen. James Jones, said on CNN's "State of the Union" that the policy "has to evolve with the social norms of what is acceptable and what is not." ' It is precisely this type of ignorance of history--this type of ignorance of how President Truman DEFIED the existing "social norms" of racist 1950s American society--this type of ignorance that so characteristically defines the bumbling, stumbling, and clueless Obama administration. Sad state of affairs. President Obama, enough is enough. Put up or shut up. Dilly-dally is only going to end up with you being shown the door when your first term is up. Then, the collective American public will bid you goodbye and advise you--in the old Southern saying--to not let the door knob hit you where the good Lord split you.

• If Obama had a pair �then he would sign an Executive Order banning discrimination against gays in the military. This singular act, which he has the power to do RIGHT NOW --if he so chose to do, certainly would shake up things. Some veterans groups might bristle at the executive order. Conservative groups would howl. But this is a fact: The ordinary soldier, marine, airman, or sailor would not blink an eye. As long as a military brother or sister can carry their own weight�as long as that military brother and sister can FIGHT, the ordinary military person does give a damn who sleeps with whom. Obama never served in the military. Harry S. Truman did serve. Harry Truman desegregated the military in 1948, nearly 20 years before the larger society followed suit. Harry Truman (though no social saint) served in the military and he knew that Black soldiers were integral to America�s success. Obama, having never served in the military, seems clueless how integral gay military personnel are to America�s success in fighting two wars simultaneously. Perhaps, one of Obama�s �crack� Cabinet aides didn�t supply the necessary memo or focus group poll. Harry S. Truman didn�t govern by focus group. Harry S. Truman didn�t need photo ops and beer summits. Harry S. Truman didn�t need a staff of spin doctors and pollsters in order to govern effectively. Harry S. Truman originated the phrase �The buck stops here� and he certainly meant it. Being a military veteran is not necessary for being a good President�but it helps: �Truman was chosen to be an officer, and then battery commander in an artillery regiment in France. His unit was Battery D, 129th Field Artillery, 60th Brigade, 35th Infantry Division, known for its discipline problems.[23] During a sudden attack by the Germans in the Vosges Mountains, the battery started to disperse; Truman ordered them back into position using profanities that he had "learned while working on the Santa Fe railroad."[23] Shocked by the outburst, his men reassembled and followed him to safety. Under Captain Truman's command in France, the battery did not lose a single man.[23] On November 11, 1918 his artillery unit fired some of the last shots of World War I into German positions. The war was a transformative experience that brought out Truman's leadership qualities; he later rose to the rank of Colonel in the Army Reserves,[24] and his war record made possible his later political career in Missouri.[23]� http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman Yes, it is very obvious that Harry S. Truman had a pair.

• Blacks, Gays, and Other Minorities in the Military The military has been on the front lines of the war against bigotry in America. Abraham Lincoln and the Union realized that Blacks were needed�although the treatment Black soldiers faced was not fair: "Black soldiers faced discrimination as well as segregation. The army was extremely reluctant to commission black officers -- only one hundred gained commissions during the war. African American soldiers were also given substandard supplies and rations. Probably the worst form of discrimination was the pay differential. At the beginning of black enlistment, it was assumed that blacks would be kept out of direct combat, and the men were paid as laborers rather than as soldiers. Black soldiers therefore received $7 per month, plus a $3 clothing allowance, while white soldiers received $13 per month, plus $3.50 for clothes. "Black troops strongly resisted this treatment. The Fifty-Fourth Massachusetts Regiment served a year without pay rather than accept the unfair wages. Many blacks refused to enlist because of the discriminatory pay. Finally, in 1864, the War Department sanctioned equal wages for black soldiers." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2967.html President Harry Truman integrated the military in 1948. This was almost two decades before the rest of the country followed suit. "Executive Order 9981 On July 26, 1948, President Truman issued Executive Order 9981 establishing equality of treatment and opportunity in the Armed Services." http://www.trumanlibrary.org/9981.htm Now, in 2010, we have a President who reminds us that he �has a lot on his plate.� Okay. President Truman had quite a bit �on his plate� as well. President Truman desegrated the military in 1948. HERE is the �teachable moment��and it doesn�t involved having a few beers in a photo-op at the White House: Gay soldiers, airmen, sailors, and marines can FIGHT. They can FIGHT well. Only a fool would bar military service based on who does whom in the privacy of their barracks. Overseas, military men and women really don�t care about sexual orientation of their brothers and sisters�as long as they carry their own weight and as long as they can FIGHT. And that�is the �teachable moment.�

• Intersting... I was planning on writing a similar post on my site, but still enjoyed your post.

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