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LAUSD Officials Lock 'Suicidal' Six-Year-Old in Psych Ward After He Draws Picture of Violent Video Game

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Whether you side with paranoid school officials or the furious mother on this one, there's something we can all agree on: Poor kid.

Six-year-old Jack was caught drawing a "disturbing picture" in his classroom at Taper Avenue Elementary School in San Pedro. Those who saw the, uh, piece, told KTLA it was a violent image with a supplementary written message: Jack said he wanted to die.

That was enough to sound the sirens. School admin quickly called in the Los Angeles County psychiatric mobile response team, who declared a 72-hour psychiatric hold on the boy and whisked him off to the hospital...

... strapped in an ambulance.

This was all to the incredible dismay of his mother, Syndi Dorman. She now tells reporters that the way LAUSD handled her child was "right up there with her worst nightmare." She maintains that Jack was only upset because his father is being deployed to Iraq, and that he had really wanted to stay home that day. (Which brings up a new possibility: Genius plan to get out of class, gone terribly wrong amid a jumpy LAUSD atmosphere created by Tucson massacre, recent L.A. school shooting scares, etc.?)

Here's the part that's actually most disturbing of all, though it's somewhat skipped over as insignificant:

"L.A. School officials said they were concerned about a picture he drew. I said he plays video games and it's a picture from a video game."

Dorman said her son suffers from separation anxiety and has seen a therapist in the past.

Reeeewind. This kid is allowed to play violent video games at six years old, while perfectly aware his dad is doing the same thing only with real blood while overseas in the U.S. Army?

Come on -- aren't there ratings on those things?

[Update: LA Weekly commenter discotechwolfe, who says he's Jack's big brother, tells us news reporters got the boy's age wrong -- that he's actually eight. The commenter writes: "He drew a picture of zombies and wrote those words because he is distraught over my stepdad leaving. he is not suicidal at all ... ive spent many evenings playing video games w jack."]

Dorman is of course fuming that, even after her son asked for his mother and she promised to take him straight to his therapist, the emergency team forced him to go on a "traumatizing" ambulance ride and remain in the psych ward. "I was trying to reassure him it would be OK and he asked if I'd come back for him, and I said of course I'm going to come back for you," she tells KTLA.

Both LAUSD and Dorman are defending their positions:

Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent Ramon Cortines released a statement, saying in part, "When any student indicates a desire to take his or her own life, the LAUSD is required to follow strict protocols to ensure the safety of the student ... The safety of LAUSD students is paramount. We did the right thing here."

Jack was released after 48 hours, but his mother says the experience will have lasting effects.

"My son doesn't want to go back to school. He's afraid they're going to take him away again."

Yeah, well -- we'd want to stay home, too. Why waste time recreating violent "Call of Duty" scenes with a crayon when we could have the real thing while snuggled into the nonjudgmental family sofa? And without all those annoying old people hovering around, making all their stupid psychiatric assessments and whatnot.

Only thing that could make this more screwy would be a sniper billboard right across the street. Like we said: poor kid.

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Daughtersofbuklowski
Daughtersofbuklowski

Parents let the kids play this crap. My son convinced me to get him some zombie thing while I was yelling at a guy in Best Buy for selling me a used Mac that crashed. Of course I said no until the manager ran off to fetch a fresh one and I was drunk on Victory so I conceded. He had nightmares and admitted the game caused this. We discussed zombies and how it is a goof on this religous thing called The Rapture.  It dawned on me that at around his age, 11, Sunday school was what caused my nightmares. To me the way the teacher and staff reacted was more harmful than a parental lapse in good judgement. The hype is like a drug that turn your child into a relentless machine. Eventually he will be whispering in your ear at night all the reasons he needs PS3 and the gruesome games besides. We learn from our mistakes and try to turn them into a teachable moment for our offsping as parents, and I do as a teacher. Funny, nothing these kids need more than truth and character. Me saying man, "I f ed up" in front of the whole class is something they respect. They are not all warped by rhetoric yet. Apologize to this little boy. You oppressed him, negated his right to expression. Unless you come clean, this little boy has to carry that sh** forever!

Daughtersofbukowski
Daughtersofbukowski

The kid may have the right idea. What exactly does he have to live for? Democracy is all but dead as the American Dream became a nightmare thanks to greed, which made evil people so rich, they have essentially taken over the priasons, the schools and the country: in an ironically named coup being manuevered by neo liberal philathropists.If this kid is in a public school here, he is being groomed for life as a wage slave as nuerotic liberals enforce an oxymoron called political correctness and duking it out ewith those who are right winging it. It is not about us against them, you idiots! This divide and conquer idiocy has us pitted against one another, our president and our children's salvation: education. supporter points out what our preoccupation with legal liability has made us. what really stinks is how the real criminals are actually protected by our laws because part of the problem is class size and what sounds like a teacher with PTSD, a condition that is presently an epidemic in teachers. And no wonder! Little hears and mids tap into this. The anxiety of parents and teachers undermines a child's sense of security. How many of us want to be responsible for 35 8 year olds 6 hours a day, deal with crazy parents, accept abuse from crazier administrators? Discover dues and contracts are a sham and they can be fired on a whim?How many parents want their kid in his or her classroom with 34 other kids, some already armed with guns, knives and thankfully pens. I am a teacher and art, which is what the kid created, is my salvation. And some of my work is kind of disturbing. If someone started freaking out about what I painted the way they did what the boy drew, I'd want to die to. It's hyperbole. Cheese and rice.

Daughtersofbukowski
Daughtersofbukowski

excuse my typos but i have to hurry because there are not enough hours in a day to do my duties, which include reading these and commenting. i may not always teach, but i will never stop fighting for children. student advocate.

*****
*****

I have four words: I HOPE SHE SUES!!!

Scrapette Jones
Scrapette Jones

hEY, from other reports I've read, the school district was folowing procedure and that is exactly the problem here. Those procedures need to be declared over-reaching. Not only was the mother not given immediate custody upon request nor was the therapist called, nor the freakin trauma caused by a trip to the looney house weighed, but who the heck is gonna pay the bill for this? Sorry, but I gotta say, only in California. No wonder you guys are so freakin in the hole, with rules and laws like this being a-okay. EYE ROLL....

Zumahans
Zumahans

I am surprised the LA Weekly didn't report at the kid was raped, and that he was blond so he deserved it.

Ffmfl
Ffmfl

And don't say it was in his best interest. The Nazis killed millions of Jews in gas chambers 'in the best intrest the world.

Ffmfl
Ffmfl

So you have alittle kid trying to get to his emotions through art, deem that his way of thinking is unwanted, so he is effectively arrested. He is then kept prisoner away from his only remaining social support system for three days. Funny, I thought child abuse was illegal.

Observer
Observer

The district is supposed to use some mature judgment before taking action. Sounds like this was missing in this case. Unless he actually indicated he was a danger to himself or others, and not just expressing feelings through art (which is what the school psychologists and counselors should have determined), the action taken may have been too extreme and kneejerk.

Smokin1
Smokin1

so your kid never drew a picture of a dinosour or frankenstein or zombies? Your kids never pretented army or cops and robbers? lol, its the security machine making people so paranoid...they are took her child away in school and the parent could do nothing about it! she should sue the school system. At the very least a parent should have been with the child 24/7 just as a parent does if their child is in the hospital. a parent is always allowed!

Steve
Steve

Dear Simone,

Do you think it's possible that you could write a piece and get your point across without using half a case of sarcasm? It makes for a really rough read and is, sorry to say, just plain unprofessional (and so very LA Weekly.)

Steve

Spanish opinion
Spanish opinion

Hello;

i'm from Spain, so my oppinion has not real weight here, but believe me... seen from outside, this situation looks crazy:

- A child draws something related to a video game- As a result, he's tied up (as a criminal), forced to get into an ambulance (as a criminal) and separated from his mother

I don't know too much about US, but in many other places of the world that bo be enough to create a life-lasting trauma in a person. If you add to this the trauma associated with your father being sent to a war.... Well, I'd like to suicide after this episode, not before: this child must think that he is the worst monster in the world, as his sadness was prized with an unproportionated (not to say unfair and unnecessary) punishment

By the way... I guess violent video games are an inffluence... But I'd bet this child has seen a)many more violent images on TV (just on the news, add films, cartoons etc...) b) real weapons in his house... Is a video game a greater influence to a child than a constant reminder of the military power of your country? Can you teach someone to stay away from violence when your government is continously showing that "that's the way it is + dog eat dog + big fish eats little fish + hit'em before they hit you"? Are videogames more evil than that?

anon
anon

We need to get these trashy horribly violent video games out of the hands of all human beings. They are especially brainwashing our innocent children through the use of electronic hypnosis.This is a fact.

Ayngel Overson
Ayngel Overson

Not that the mother is at all healthy here... but how can anybody think that it is good for a 6 year old (or even 8) to be placed in this situation. He did not bring a weapon to school, he did not threaten himself or anybody else that I know of. I've only seen this article so forgive me if I missed the ak-47 in his backpack and the taking of hostages... but EXTREME MUCH?

I have no doubt that this needed to be reported to the authorities and handled with an investigation and possibly court intervention but this kid is going to remember that moment for the rest of his life... and they thought he was disturbed BEFORE?

That mom has a hell of a case and you can bet this kid is going to go through far worse by the time this is all over. But... his mom is going to own a school district.

Madseasun
Madseasun

"Authorities" in the case of an upset 6 yo is there Parents! His mother is unhealthy for making a different decision then you would have made? We need to respect others choices if different from our own! Not all people have the gene to kill...

So much for Parent/Teacher simpatico...

Ravosava
Ravosava

Blaming "violent" video games is stupid. The kid was upset about his dad leaving, if I was six or eight or whatever age, and I knew my dad was going to be shipped overseas and possibly face death, I'd probably feel pretty miserable, too. Not only that, kids play "violent" games all of the time, we just have a problem with video games because they are more graphic. Cops and robbers or cowboys and indians is just as violent as Call of Duty. Activision just gave Black Ops better graphics than those role playing games that kids play. And aside from RP games that kids play, there are some pretty sadistic board games out there, too. Take a look at Clue, I mean, really?

Another point: Don't blame the mother in this situation. It's up for her to decide what her kid can and can't play/watch/read, etc. I grew up watching Pretty Woman and Sister Act, one is about a prostitute turned princess and the other is about a show girl in witness protection who gets shot at a lot. We probably watched tons of other "bad" movies and I played video games. I'm no worse for the wear, either. I'm a normal 21 year old in college. Don't do drugs, drink, or kill people or myself. Hmm. Not like everyone here is the best parent ever. Reserve your judgments, people.

The most DISTURBING part of this is that they withheld the boy from his mother for 48 hours. 2 days. That's longer than the POLICE can withhold a child from their parents without some kind of court order or warrant. Why didn't the school district turn the child over? The school district is definitely in the wrong here, whether or not the kid's mother will be winning the MoTY award anytime soon. WTF, people? Encouraging nanny states? How would you like it if someone took your kid away from you for 2 days? That's just ridiculous.

Autumn
Autumn

It's the sickest of circumstances. 1) This kid is obviously depressed about his father leaving and just wanted to express that in his writing and drawing. 2) LAUSD had no right to send the child to the psych ward prior to his mother giving her permission for such an admittance. 3) What the hell in going on in this country!?? Everyone seems to be whacked out of their skulls.

robin yates
robin yates

if you allow a 6 year old to watch very realistic war games on the tv, is it any wonder the kid is seeing a shrink ?

Madseasun
Madseasun

I wonder how many 6 yo have attempted or succeeded at suicide? The answer to that question should be the basis for reaction, not laws???? Can you say knee jerk authoritarian cya reaction by the school admin, if it were there child they would be flipped out by what they did!!!

Clevebeat
Clevebeat

So, now we should think about the suicidal success rates of 6 year olds? A child indicating they wanted to harm/kill themselves is a mental health medical emergency. This kid obviously needs help and if it's a call for attention, that's a pretty serious way of doing it. If that were my kid, I'd be glad someone was concerned for the safety of my child. I'd be happy my kid came home safe to me, rather than finding him dead.

Madseasun
Madseasun

I said that to invoke thought before action, you obviously missed the point!

IF there have been no suicides by 6 yo then why do a 48 medical hold in an Adult facility! There is no precedence for that strong of a response!

The trauma from being placed in the situation by school "officials" will last a lifetime.

valerie
valerie

and you think the psych ward is a safe place for 6 yr old? If the child really needs help he could see his own psych as the mom was requesting. What happened to the rights of the parents? He is underage by a long shot. What kinds of sedatives did they have to shoot him up with to calm him down? My son would literally have a heart attack if he was taken away so abrubtly, strapped down and had needles inserted into his arms with out his mommy. At any age it could be scarey but HE IS SIX YEARS OLD!!! Give me a break.

Ravosava
Ravosava

Would you be happy that they kept your kid from you for 48 hours? I doubt that you would be if you were a good parent. Or even a reasonable one.

NotAPsycho
NotAPsycho

When I was kid, I drew all the time. Lots of kids do.Me and my buddies drew stuff. You know what boys draw?Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs eating people, of course.Tanks and battleships. Fighter jets and TIE Fighters and Ninjas.All kinds of depictions of war and violence, complete with the "--------" coming outof the machines guns. This is what boys draw, based on my extensive experience of being a boy.

We were ALL psych cases or what?

Clevebeat
Clevebeat

But did you also indicate that you wanted to die on those drawings? Violent drawings are one thing. Self disclosure of a suicidal ideation is quite another. One would ASSUME (dangerously) that a school official would also talk with this young man, who also verbalized his desire to die. It appears that is the case, as there is no denial this kid indicated he wanted to die but that "he didn't mean it". And so what if 8/10 people "dont mean it" when they say they want to kill themselves, should we ignore the 2/10 and how can you tell the difference?

tarabj
tarabj

What if the kid was playing BioShock, where the main protagonist is Jack?? He wrote it in the third person. You can't be sure he wasn't talking about a character and not himself.

Daughtersofbukowski
Daughtersofbukowski

3rd person is he, she, they...second is you (thank the gods jack did not use that)First is 'I", which is probably most frequent narrative approachj. One hopes at his age. be it 6 or 8, he understands that the speaker/narrator are not himself and probably fictional.BTW I teach English and I don't thin you need to know this stuff unless you have the odd situation like this where you want to identify it. I despise all these grammarians who correct English instead of following the thread. It is informal, for Pete's sake. You made an excellent observation and I was clarifying so other got the insights you have about a child's vivid imagination and the perils of pop psychology.

najwalaylah
najwalaylah

"This kid is allowed to play violent video games at six years old, while perfectly aware his dad is doing the same thing only with real blood while overseas in the U.S. Army?"

His father is a soldier off to war, and he's playing at what his father is doing with his little wooden sword *excuse me* video game? At what point in the history of the human race as we've known it did this become and should it have ever become a controversy?

I am not speaking to the caption for the drawing: "I want to die", since the context in which the child meant what he wrote is *completely missing* and subject to wide interpretation by anyone who thinks about it enough.

Shaun Roberts
Shaun Roberts

While a six year old boy shouldn't be recreating his fathers tour through a video game I feel the school went to far.

This kid is clearly not being engaged enough with with parents or those teaching him at school.

Take a look at what no tolerance is doing to our boys.http://www.ted.com/talks/ali_c...

CrowderSoup
CrowderSoup

I think both parties here screwed up. Mom shouldn't be letting her 6 year old play Call of Duty and the school shouldn't have dragged a 6 year old off to a psych ward with no real reason.

I'll let everyone in on a secret here: Little boys draw explosions and guns and shit. We just do. It's in our nature. I did the SAME THING when I was this kids age. Was I ever suicidal? NO!

valerie
valerie

I agree. My 6 year old does also - EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN'T WATCH ANYTHING MORE THAN DISNEY AND HE'S NEVER PLAYED A VIDEO GAME OTHER THAN V-TECH!

bs76
bs76

What video game was he drawing of? Hell, for all we know it was Mario & Yoshi battling Kirby in Super Smash Bros. The only conclusion I saw that it was a Violent Video Game Of Evil (TM) is the one the author jumped to.

If anything, this is another example of the War on Boys and the continuing pathologizing all things masculine. A 6 year old saying he wants to kill himself shouldn't be sneezed at, but it's also a freaking 6 year old so there's some context there. In other words he may have no idea what he's even talking about and is just verbalizing his feelings, not making an actual threat of suicide.

Furthermore, all of this jumping to conclusions crap has got to stop!

valerie
valerie

I agree. My son who is 6 and recently diagnosed with Aspergers says all kinds of things. He really doesn't even realize how the world could possibly interpret it. He has an innocent mind but he repeats things and copies things that other older kids do and say to fit in. He goes around saying "ahhhhh, I'm gonna die" and acts as though he's crashing into the floor. Yes, some kids have very wild imaginations. So geez, I better hope he never draws a picture ....

Daughtersofbukowski
Daughtersofbukowski

Actually, this child may have a condition like Aspergers or Tourettes. Most mental health conditions should be treated with art therapy. Music, writing, painting, sculpture, dance, and drama are positive outlets most children gravitate to when there is organic or psychic issues. Some kids just like guitars or drawing. But this one feels things deeply. I don't believe he is depraved or needs medication.I don't know what the kid said.The veracity pof everyone but the mother is suspect. The article may not even have the child's age right, so how much stock do I put in it? There is a huge difference in the maturity of a 6 year old and an 8 year old in the most normal kids. They grow so swiftly. Did school administrators lie to hide the fact this kid has a condition? Believe me, the reporter niavely (and she may be criminally indifferent) would put more creedence in their 4 or 5 narratives wearing suits than that of a frazzled and upset mother who was probably in sweat pants when she rushed over to rescue her child from these lunatics. And why should the administrators and that teacher lie you ask? Well, they know this kid is not where he supposed to be, that someone dropped the ball and he was not identified with perhaps a serious and readable condition. They know the special education laws about compliance are fairly rigid. So to save themselves, they put the poor kid on the defensive. Kids and teachers often end up being sacraficed in situations like these. I teach for this district. Do not put your child in any LAUSD school that is not Magnet or located in an affluent hood, and maybe then you should pay for something better. Or better yet, join the PTA, which is pretty much banned in the poor neighborhoods.

John
John

Unbelievable, the school requirements should require direct contact with the parents first and foremost. And follow up with the" Los Angeles County psychiatric mobile response team" oh wait, it's a six year old... Whay not send a psychiatrist and and plainclothes to the house and interview the teacher after verifying the child is ok or whatever is deemed necessary.

Rick Shannon
Rick Shannon

No, what's scary is that the school district has this much power. The kid just wanted to be home and comfortable because his dad was going overseas and might not return. Expressing pain in art is valid and theraputic. Authoritarianism is the evil here, not a six year old resonding in ways six year olds respond.

discotechwolfe
discotechwolfe

i had to respond to this because jack is my little brother. he is also not 6 he is 8! he drew a picture of zombies and wrote those words because he is distraught over my stepdad leaving. he is not suicidal at all. he is a very happy little boy. i believe art is very theraputic as well because i am an artist myself. ive spent many evenings playing video games w jack. it upsets and hurts me to see all these comments about my mother and him. you people do not know my family, you just see things on tv and online and that makes it ok to attack my mother? cut her some slack.

Rene Diedrich
Rene Diedrich

Please tell your story to www.perdaily.com. We are trying to unify real advocates for the youngsters and expose corruption, waste, abuse and worse in public school reforms.Art is, by the way, the only thing in this world that seems to last, my fellow art soldier.Rene Diedrich. Please find me on FB--

tarabj
tarabj

Thank you so much for responding. I think Jack was doing exactly what he should be doing to cope with his feelings. You are right, art is a beautiful way to express emotion, even if what you are drawing looks ugly to some people. I am glad he plays video games with his family and I am glad that he has a brother like you. He is a very lucky child for that.

And based on this one note that you have written, your mother has raised you as well. I hope I can do as good a job with my own children.

Craig Mooney
Craig Mooney

You are right. We don't know your family. (I'm on your side.)

Brett Hampton
Brett Hampton

Should a six year old be playing violent video games like this one? Probably not. Did Dornan drop the ball by not having a better idea of what is and is not appropriate for her kid? Certainly. But LAUSD should have released the child to his mother upon demand. If a child gets into a fight or otherwise gets in trouble while at school, the school contacts the parent to come get the child. Why does this situation empower or authorize the District to forcibly transport and confine a child over his parent's protests? If liability is a concern, then that's easily solved - responsibility for the child's welfare passes back to the mother, where it started in the first place. On the other hand, from the sound of her, Mrs. Dornan would blame the District if it had, in fact, released her son to her and he had gone on to do something horrible to himself.

thinking human
thinking human

I don't like video games for little kids, let alone violent ones, but who made you the video game police anyway? Let's just not go there. You are siding with the schools actions when you speak that way.

Ravosava
Ravosava

How did the mother "drop the ball". We don't know her kid. Maybe he's a very mature eight year old. It happens. I've seen four year olds with as much common sense and maturity as a person in their thirties, and I've seen people in their thirties with as much maturity and common sense as a four year old.

We don't live with the little guy, we have no idea what is acceptable or appropriate for her son.

supporter of PMRT/LAUSD
supporter of PMRT/LAUSD

this is the most accurate written depiction of a very sad situation/scenario.. LA Weekly hit the nail on the head! Its Mom Dormin who needs help...LAUSD and PMRT did their job. Any child who is a "danger to himself or others" requires an evaluation. As mandated reporters, they are legally required to take action, exactly in the manner in which they did. This Mom needs to stop yapping to the media, and actually care for her disturbed son. Maybe she should actually consider the fact that violent video games are not appropriate for a 6yr old to view? Not to mention the fact that she brushes this incident off with comments like "I just thought he was making this up to get out of going to school." Hello? She should be grateful the school and PMRT did their jobs. If he had harmed himself, she would then be saying the LAUSD and PMRT allowed the terrible tragedy to occur. Message to Mom: take any threat of suicide by a child of any age as a serious situation! thanks to La Weekly for a fair report. finally!!! all other stations and news are sensationalizing for their own benefit = ratings!

thinking human
thinking human

To: supporter of PMRT/LAUSD

Who joins a forum with a name like that? Someone who works for PMRT/LAUSD? We need to CUT your budget, a LOT more.

thinking human
thinking human

You think just like a classic lib. So sad. Rather than picking on this good mom, judging her, why don't you read the Constitution and get a better understanding of the rights that people have in this country. We are not a communist nation.

tarabj
tarabj

I can't believe that you think you have the right to deem how other people should parent their children. If I let my son play video games, then it is none of your damn business. If he draws pictures of said video games, then GOOD FOR HIM. I will put him in art classes. Not everything is a suicidal gesture. Not everything is dangerous. Not every feeling is a sign that someone needs therapy. We used to call them emotions, but now they are mental disorders because of people who think like you. Thanks for nothing.

Ravosava
Ravosava

I really don't feel like withholding someone's kid from them for 48 hours is doing their job. Whatever happened to going to the principles office and calling the mom in, and having a discussion about it, right then and there?

No, they strapped the kid down in an ambulance, sent him to a psych ward for 2 days, and denied him access to his mother. If I denied someone access to their child, it's kidnapping. If a school does it, it's an appropriate step to take? No. Absolutely not. It's a GROSS over reaction and people should feel ashamed of themselves for allowing something like this to happen.

This situation reminds me of the 13 year old who was strip searched for having ibuprofen on her. Gross abuse of power by school officials claiming that they are acting in the best interests of our children. Ridiculous!

thinking human
thinking human

This is a classic case of a school system taking itself WAAAAAY to seriously. Makes me sick to think that they somehow supercede the parents in ANY way. Parents have rights.

Radaxis7
Radaxis7

indeed, thinking human. clear and concise. not my forte. so i really respect that. i guess there may be intelligent life on earth after all. www.perdaily.com

Doggmomma
Doggmomma

Yes, all these people are saying this and that about the schools. The truth is, if he did bring something to school and hurt others OR hurt himself, the people would be screaming'"why wasn't something done?"

If he suffered there problems why wasn't he in therapy at the time? Why did she let him play the game if it's so violent?

If you say you're going to hurt yourself, it's an automatic trip to be checked out. No, they don't wait. They call and have you picked up right then and there. The school did it's job, now the so called "mother" should do hers. KEEP HIM IN THERAPY!

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