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L.A. Pot Tax Passes: Marijuana Advocates Defeated Again (Why Are We Not Surprised?)

Categories: Election 2011

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No big surprise here: Stoners Marijuana advocates were defeated once again at the polls.

You couldn't get pot fully legalized via the November ballot in California (but you were close), and now you were rejected in your attempts to stop a 5 percent medical marijuana tax from being imposed in the City of Angels. Yeah, City Hall is taxing it, even as it's trying to shut down most pot shops in town (welcome to L.A.).

But, hey, look on the bright side:

Taxation is a step toward full legitimization.

Look, America was founded on taxes, and blood was shed over them. No taxation without representation? Well, you're representing now.

Kris Hermes, legal campaign director of Americans for Save Access, notes that at least 10 cities across the state have passed such taxes.

"You would think it would bring greater legitimacy," he told the Weekly Wednesday.

Hermes noted that a vast majority of voters aren't medical marijuana users, so passing the tax, called Measure M, was no skin off their backs. (It passed 59.34 percent to 40.66).

"Less than 2 percent of the population are actually patients," he said. "There could be a perception that they need to pay their fair share. That would be fine if it was consistent with other businesses in Los Angeles. But that's not the case. This is well beyond fair share."

ASA opposed the measure on the grounds that it would make marijuana less affordable to those most in need.

In fact it seemed like most dispensaries and most marijuana organizations were against it, also arguing that the extra $2.50 per $50 worth of weed would be too much to handle for grandma's medicinal budget.

ASA and L.A's Greater Los Angeles Collective Alliance joined hands to oppose the measure.

Even he Los Angeles Times said no.

City Councilwoman Janice Hahn, who introduced the measure, argued that the city needed the $3 to $5 million in tax revenue it would generate. She was right.

But City Attorney Carmen Trutanich argued that even if M passed it might not survive a legal challenge: He says you can't tax weed since it's supposed to be doled out on a nonprofit, "collective" basis under California law.

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Vloor77
Vloor77

This guy does not know how to write, there is clearly a typo in the writing. V.L

bloodrun
bloodrun

I'm curious as to whether this reporter has the same opinionated mentality when discussing other issues dealing with the sick,disabled,and dying members of Society. I am appalled at the L.A. times for allowing such garbage to be associated with them.No wonder the newspaper industry FAT CATS went Down the drain into bankruptcy...not in touch with present day society or it's involvement in our citizens.

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet
Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

Not always the money. Just sort of the money. It's more about with whom do you compete?

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

Cris Ericson
Cris Ericson

United States Marijuana Party seeks2012 candidates forPresident & Vice-Presidentof theUnited States of Americato appear on the Official Election Ballotin the State of Vermont,November 2012 General Election.http://www.sec.state.vt.us

CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT & VICE-PRESIDENTOF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THE UNITED STATES MARIJUANA PARTYDO NOT HAVE TO BE RESIDENTS OF VERMONT !!!!!

Who will step up to the plate and play ballagainst the Republicans & Democrats?Will it be:Loretta Nall?Tom Ammiano?Jason Warf?Richard Rawlings?Sheree Krider?Kristin Davis?Michael Moore?Richard Lee?Steve Kubby?Denny Lane?Keith Stroup?Ralph Nader?Kris Hermes?

Vermont Election LAWS:

http://www.leg.state.vt.us on the left click on Vermont Statutes onlineClick on Title 17 V.S.A.Scroll down to Chapter 49Subchapter III Independent Candidates

IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND:

IN THE STATE OF VERMONT,AN UN-ORGANIZED POLITICAL PARTY MAY APPEAR ON THE OFFICIAL ELECTION BALLOT UNDER THE RULESFOR INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES!

"UNITED STATES MARIJUANA PARTY" IS AN UN-ORGANIZED POLITICAL PARTYhttp://usmjparty.comhttp://usmjparty.orghttp://usmjparty.nethttp://usmjp.comhttp://usmjp.orghttp://usmjp.netAND THEREFORE MAY APPEAR ON THE OFFICIALELECTION BALLOT IN VERMONTunder the laws for independent candidatesusing descriptive words.

NOTE: INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES MAY USE UP TO 3DESCRIPTIVE WORDS, APPEARING ON THE BALLOT AS"UNITED STATES MARIJUANA" PARTY .The word "party" is already on the form.

Elections DivisionVermont Secretary of State26 Terrace StreetMontpelier, VT 05609-1101(802)828-2464FAX: 802-828-5171Hours: 7:45 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. EAST COAST TIME

http://www.leg.state.vt.us

The Vermont Statutes Online Title 17: ElectionsChapter 49: NOMINATIONS17 V.S.A. § 2401. Applicability of subchapter

§ 2401. Applicability of subchapter

A person may be nominated and have his or her name printed on the general election ballot for any office by filing a consent similar in form to the consent prescribed by section 2361 of this title and a statement of nomination with the secretary of state. In the case of a nomination for justice of the peace, the consent form and statement of nomination shall be filed with the town clerk. (Added 1977, No. 269 (Adj. Sess.), § 1; amended 1985, No. 196 (Adj. Sess.), § 8; 1995, No. 95 (Adj. Sess.), § 1.)

The Vermont Statutes Online Title 17: ElectionsChapter 49: NOMINATIONS17 V.S.A. § 2402. Requisites of statement

§ 2402. Requisites of statement

(a) A statement of nomination shall contain:

(1) The name of the office for which the nomination is made;

(2) The candidate's name and residence;

(3) If desired, a name, or other identification (in not more than three words) to be printed on the ballot following the candidate's name;

(4) In the case of nomination for president or vice president of the United States, the name and state of residence of each candidate for such office, together with the name, town of residence, and correct mailing address of each nominee for the office of elector. The statement of nomination shall include certification by the town clerk of each town where the signers appear to be voters that the persons whose names appear as signers of the statement are registered voters in the town and of the total number of valid signers from the town. Only the number of signers certified by each town clerk shall count toward the required number of signatures. The statement shall also be accompanied by a consent form from each nominee for elector. The consent form shall be similar to the consent form prescribed in section 2361 of this title.

(b) To constitute a valid nomination, a statement shall contain signatures of voters qualified to vote in an election for the office in question, equal in number to at least:

(1) For presidential and vice presidential offices, 1,000;

(2) For state and congressional offices, 500;

(3) For county officers or state senators, 100;

(4) For representative to the general assembly, 50;

(5) For justice of the peace, 30 or one percent of the legal voters of the municipality, whichever is less.

Signatures need not all be contained on one paper.

(c) A statement shall state that each signer is qualified to vote in an election for the office in question and that the voter's residence is as set forth next to the voter's name.

(d) A statement of nomination and a completed and signed consent form shall be filed as set forth in section 2356 of this title. No public official receiving nominations shall accept a petition unless a completed and signed consent form is filed at the same time.

(e) The secretary of state shall prescribe and furnish forms for a statement of nomination. (Added 1977, No. 269 (Adj. Sess.), § 1; amended 1979, No. 200 (Adj. Sess.), §§ 30-32; 1985, No. 196 (Adj. Sess.), § 9; 1995, No. 95 (Adj. Sess.), § 2; 2001, No. 83 (Adj. Sess.), § 4; 2007, No. 54, § 3; 2007, No. 121 (Adj. Sess.), § 7, eff. May 6, 2008; 2009, No. 73 (Adj. Sess.), § 7, eff. April 7, 2010; No. 98 (Adj. Sess.), § 1, eff. May 10, 2010.)

The Vermont Statutes Online Title 17: ElectionsChapter 49: NOMINATIONS17 V.S.A. § 2403. Number of candidates; party names

§ 2403. Number of candidates; party names

A statement of nomination shall contain the name of only one candidate, except in the case of presidential and vice-presidential candidates, who may be nominated by means of the same statement of nomination. A person shall not sign more than one statement of nomination for the same office. The political or other name on a statement of nomination shall be substantially different from the name of any organized political party. It shall also be substantially different from the political or other name already appearing on any other statement of nomination for the same office then on file with the same officer for the same election; if the secretary of state determines that it is not substantially different, the candidate named on the statement shall select a different political or other name, otherwise the secretary may reject the statement of nomination. Except in the case of presidential and vice-presidential candidates, the word "independent" may not be used as part of a party name;

if no party is indicated, the word "Independent" shall be printed on the ballot, and no candidate appearing on the ballot as a candidate of a political party shall also appear on the ballot as an "Independent." (Added 1977, No. 269 (Adj. Sess.), § 1; amended 1979, No. 200 (Adj. Sess.), § 33; 1985, No. 196 (Adj. Sess.), § 10; 2001, No. 5, § 15.)

http://usmjp.comhttp://usmjparty.comUNITED STATES MARIJUANA PARTYno registered trade name,not an "organized" political party,so it qualifies for the Vermont ballotunder the above laws.

Please sign the Make Marijuana Legal petition onlinehttp://www.petitiononline.com/...

CRIS ERICSON IS THE ONLY CANDIDATEIN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAWHO HAS EVER APPEARED SO FARON ANY OFFICIAL ELECTION BALLOTFOR THEUNITED STATES MARIJUANA PARTY2010 Cris Ericson was on the VermontOfficial Election Ballot for United States Senator and for Governorfor the United States Marijuana Party:http://vermont-elections.org/e...

lamedicalmarijuana
lamedicalmarijuana

If the DEA or any other federal entity tries to raid or bring up a case against medical marijuana in LA City ... They should remember that money from medical marijuana retail sales now goes into the pockets of the LAPD LAFD LAUSD etc

BiteMeElephant
BiteMeElephant

Another lazy reporter takes yet another tiresome cheap shot at medical marijuana advocacy. I'm surprised there are no hi-larious reggae jokes in the piece. Certainly many MMJ patients are using it for recreational purposes. However, many people also abuse prescription medication. Would you refer to cancer patients taking prescription pain meds as "druggies" or "junkies"? Stay classy, Dennis.

jontomas
jontomas

Actually, Prop 19 did quite well. There was 52 percent public approval of re-legalizing marijuana going into Prop 19. Then, with the triple-whammy October surprise, it was beat down to a die-hard core of 46 percent.

One of those surprises was Schwarzenegger's downgrading of marijuana possession from a misdemeanor to an infraction. In all his term, he vetoed every marijuana reform legislation that came to his desk. The only reason he did this was to take the steam out of the support for Prop 19. It worked, but it also gave reform a great victory. Making marijuana possession an infraction removes the WORST aspect of the fraudulent prohibition - the "criminal" record. This victory has moved us well down the road toward a rational marijuana policy. Prop 19 also raised awareness around the country, and the world, of the insane destruction of marijuana prohibition. Before Prop 19, national support was just shy of 50 percent, although polls show the western states at 52 to 56 percent.

With the great surge in attention, support is now at 60 percent nationally, and continuing to rise. The various medical marijuana victories are adding momentum as well. And California isn't the only state moving toward re-legalization for ALL adults. There is no stopping an idea whose time has come. -- We re-legalize marijuana next year.

Disgusted
Disgusted

You were the president of your DARE chapter in elementary school or something, weren't you? Stoners? Really? Elementary school is over Dennis, time to find a new accomplishment. Your writing certainly isn't it.

Tesla Gatsby
Tesla Gatsby

I agree this is a sub par writer. I expect better quality from the L.A. Times.

Sofia
Sofia

i agree taxation is a step in legalization....its always all about the money

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