Is LAPD Taking Homeless People's Shopping Carts?

Chris legal,sr

chrislegal55@yahoo.com email me!!! First , LAPD has no right to destroy personal property or direct someone elsa to do like wise , if they have reasonable cause to believe it belong to someone . At best they could remove the stuff from the cart if the cart was not legally in the person possession( ie they bought it, it was given to them ,or they found it and the owner never claimed th e same.

the LAPD took OLA personaly property on the side walk and in the Park 1.7 acres after giving OLA permission on 10-12-2011 by resolution to be in the park 24 / 7 as long as they were 1st amendment protestors - which they were with nightly G.A at the south or west steps of City Hall. The Times reported that the LAPD just did an eviction !!!!! When does evictions : 1) take place at 1 am ; 2) 1400 police in riot wear get involved ;3) all the personal property is destroyed , damaged or removed without notice ;4) their is no due process via three day notice to quit, unlawful detainer action , court judgment and a sheriff red tag notice to vacate in five days or be forcibly removed!!!!!!!! The city attorney and the Mayor should be held accountable for willfully violating via Federal conspriacy , innocense protestors civil rights under the 5th , 4th ( tents were their homes ) and 14 amendments. See the evidence in the three cases file in state (one ) and Federal (two ).

The Bastard

The LAPD, with a vanguard of the "safety" cyclists in red shirts, direct a squad replete with an earth mover and a dump truck to unlawfully confiscate the belongings of homeless folks on Skid Row. I have video of this campaign, as it has been on-going for at least three years.

I also have video (posted at http://www.thebusbench.com/201... ) of LAPD's dedicated shopping cart confiscation squad in East L.A. on Broadway.

JTinLA

Stop leaving your shit around. Clean it up, keep it with you and you wont lose it!

Prevlov

They are suing for the police confiscating their STOLEN shopping carts????

They should be in jail for stealing shopping carts. If they can't prove they bought the cart from the store who's name is on it ... they should go to jail. If they stole the cart, they probably stole what's in it.

Justina Steward

PEOPLE!!! STOP!! I have read all these comments of hate and distruction. Retaliation is notthe way. If you are an individual that is thinking along these lines then you are no better thanthose that committed the crime against this man and his family. It's a THUG mentality which is a STUPID mentality. People need to be praying for this gentleman and let GOD deal withthe revenge. REVENGE IS MINE THUS SAID THE LORD!!! So now one of America's greatest American games every has evolved into it's fans beating up opposition? Those of committedthe crime, believe me there day will come either to them or to someone that is close to themnthen they will look back on this and if they have any scommon sense at that time, they willknow why it happened. Please people don't loose your grip everyone that wear LA hats andjerseys are not like these individuals. Other innocesnt people will be hurt if not killed and the children of the future will never be able to attend a baseball game because of the hate.

God Bless

Invite the Lord to your house this weekend. I will pay for EVERYTHING. A wonderful dinner, dessert, cigars, wine. I want to talk with this guy and find out why people will dedicate their entire lives to him without ever seeing him, hearing his words, reading what he wrote ... I can go on endlessly, including the fact that none of you can agree on what any of those things are or were ... and you are always killing others in his name. Like Einstein said, "The only thing limitless in the Universe is human stupidity."

Robert

I work in the EMS field in the Los Angeles area. I work in a city known for its prolific homeless population. They call 911, beg us to take all their shit. A lot of times their stuff is filthy and could fill the back of a pick up truck, so we leave their stuff. We cannot talk all of it, and because of the habitual abuse of the emergency medical system by the homless, their shift gets left behind, a lot. They leave their stuff in stupid fucking spots (e.g. the middle of the street, middle of the ally, walk ways, etc... ) Sooooo tough shit.

JCOFFEY99

Doesn't this city ever GET IT? McArthur Park playing Beat the Press, Rampart Division, etc etc. Federal law generally means what it says. Sorry B Parks, Tony V, etc., it really does. The City and County Of Miami/Dade County "cleared" a vacant lot of homeless people and threw away all their stuff. The Court said 300 dollars per victim, but 8 MILLION DOLLARS IN COURT COSTS AND ATTORNEYS FEES PLEASE! GET A GRIP, GET A CLUE, STOP THE bs RAPE OF THE TAXPAYERS.

Duke

Anyone know how much a shopping cart costs? (appx. $400) And who Owns them- the small businesses, shopping markets, corner markets? are shopping carts considered 'Public property'? (No)The LAPD are justified in taking the carts- but the belongings inside them.... that's questionable at best. I doubt the LAPD can unload the belongings either- as without an owner that would be littering.

Kim

Shopping carts cost $75-150 per unit. I'd imagine that there's also a bulk sale discount for grocers and other purchasers of mass quantities. How often do you think the cops even return the shopping carts to the stores from which they're appropriated? Are the stores bringing suit against the homeless? It might seem obvious that a homeless person does not OWN the shopping cart that they are pushing (in the same way that it's obvious that a guy with sagging pants in a poor area carrying around $1000 in cash probably did something illegal to get that money) but that does not create probable cause and it doesn't justify a government seizure of property. Also, if the property is already on the street--deposited in a public space--the police are not littering by removing items from the cart, placing them on the sidewalk, and returning the cart to the store owner. The police are misappropriating the useful property of homeless individuals to convert it to rubbish so they can destroy the symptoms of homelessness without treating the problem. This is irresponsible at best and at worst (and more likely), blatant discrimination against the most marginalized members of society. It's revolting and the LAPD should be ashamed.

HubbaHubba

Maybe you should invite some of the "homeless" to park their shopping carts on the sidewalk/"public space" in front of your house. Oh wait...NIMBY (not in my backyard)! Spare me your bleeding heart and put your money where your mouth is.

Obama, is that you ... or just another socialistic, communistic, air-head community organizer who will one-day be another illegal President?

Linda

I wish that someone could devise some other way for the homeless to move around their belongings! More grocers should install the system that locks the wheels on the carts so they can't leave their premises. Those stolen carts are very expensive and you can bet your bottom grocery dollar that you and I are paying for them every time we buy groceries!

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

In Miami, there was a salvage company that hired people to pick up the carts. Greg and I didn't have any work at the time, so we took the jobs. We figured we'd just pick up the unattended carts. And it was true. People really steal them from the grocers. We drove the antique ford into Liberty City. We found a cart. But, before we could get out of the truck to take possession, we noticed that the man pushing the cart was not doing so to collect the memorabilia, from a life that leaked out the cracks. He was paralyzed. Hop roll hop roll. Until, he must have grown exhausted. Then one of his buddies helped him into the cart and pushed him until the wire seat on bone became unbearable. Greg and I got back into the truck, and we drove back home.

It was like something out of Sunset Bl. It was floating in the pool, only about a foot long. Greg fished it out of the water and brought it into the apartment. It was the python that would later become known as Sammy, fresh out of the egg. It would mark the beginning of a Duval Street Legend. Why? Maybe because for five seconds, Greg was merciful. But then, they really do steal them from the Pavilions.

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

That wire seat on bone must have been terrible. Any way they can sue the real owner of the cart for allowing such dangerous transportation to be stolen?

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

You missed the point. It wasn't about letting some guy keep a cart. He already had possession, whether stolen or a gift. We were hired to retrieve the cart. We retrieved other carts and turned them in, collecting cash. When we came upon the unfortunate, it was too much. We quit, not being obligated to use our truck to alleviate some poor shmuck of his only means of locomotion. The retrieval company would simply hire someone else, and the cart would have been taken away. We would have continued to make a living moving other people's furniture or hauling the debris from hotel renovation. Simple as that. It's just that a regular gig would have been more stable instead of the hit and miss of whom ever would call. It was one of those, " why us, God?" things, because we really wanted to be jerks about it.

Angela Garcia as NeonMosfet

HubbaHubba

So I guess it's okay to steal someone elses property if you're "homeless." Just as long as it isn't YOURS.

Goan Falkov

I was pissing in the alley, then when I turned around... shazzam, my cart and cans were gone!

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elraver

Stealing their shopping carts? It is hard for the Police (you know, the people who enforce laws... like them or hate them) to 'steal' something that was already stolen from the stores that actually owned these carts in the first place.

Faruq

There are agencies that provide carts(free)to people purchased from the manufacturer. One of them is located on Skid Row and is called the hipi Kitchen on 6th & Gladys

la_weakly

Fuck da police.

Fuck you. May the police never assist you.

Justina Steward

You know if it wern't for thuggish attitudes like THIS ONE maybe we wouldn't begoing through this. Fuck the police. Well my brother one day maybe one of your family members will need the police and that may be what saves their life if not yours.

That is of course if your not one one the ones out there acting aFOOL!!!

Robert

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Steve

I am an artist in Santa Monica and I have built a couple of custom carts for homeless people. I recently got a bit discouraged because one guy gave his away and went back to a shopping cart. But this article leads me to believe that maybe there is a real need for these things. Maybe I need to go to skid row and perhaps be a bit more selective.

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