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In-N-Out's Longest Surviving Location Demolished in Baldwin Park: City Officials Shocked

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Update and correction: In-N-Out says it isn't the oldest surviving location. Plus, why L.A. Conservancy director Linda Dishman says this could happen again. All of that after the jump.

Oops.

In a typically L.A. move, the corporate folks at In-N-Out tore down what many believe is the oldest surviving burger stand in the chain (photo) in order to ... make way for a replica of that stand.

The San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that top city officials in Baldwin Park, where the stand was considered "the city's most notable landmark," were "shocked." Councilwoman Monica Garcia:

It was a complete shock to all of us. I thought we were working together on preserving that site and making it into a museum, but they just came in and demolished it.

Seems like a sneaky move on the part of In-N-Out corporate. The paper says they indeed got the proper permits from low-level city staffers, even as they told Baldwin Park leaders that they planned to restore the building and turn it into a museum.

Now a replica will serve that purpose, apparently.

The location was known as the birthplace of the company.

The structure, from at least 1954 but possibly 1948, is sort of Mecca for lovers of Southern California burger and car-culture history. A new, working restaurant was opened on the site in 2004.

City leaders said if they had known the demo was planned they would have tried to stop it.

The building, a target for vandals, was said to be in bad shape.

Added: Southern California is also home to the longest-surviving McDonald's, circa 1953, in Downey, and the oldest Bob's Big Boy, in Burbank, which is a state historical "point of interest."

Cindy Heitzman, director of the California Preservation Foundation, told the Weekly Friday that most buildings have to be at least 50 years old to be considered historically significant, but that cultural context can play a role.

The In-N-Out stand, she said, would seem to qualify, at least from a history-and-culture buff's point of view.

"In-N-Out burger as a business is significant," she said. "The oldest Bob's Big Boy, McDonald's -- they are are all significant and important."

Added No. 2: The location also served as company headquarters. It moved to Irvine in recent years.

The location is also home to one of two company stores.

Added No. 3: Actually we're told that company operations are split between Baldwin Park and Irvine.

Update and correction: In-N-Out veep Carl Van Fleet says it wasn't the oldest surviving In-N-Out. Here's the statement he made, which was just forwarded to us:

Please know that the building is NOT the original In-N-Out Burger. It wasn't even the oldest existing In-N-Out Burger. The oldest existing restaurant is in Pasadena. The original In-N-Out restaurant came down when the 10 freeway was built. That original site is roughly where the overpass support mound is.

This building needed to come down as it was in bad shape. We are considering the construction of a replica of the true first In-N-Out Burger as it looked in 1948. If that happens, we would like to build it right there where the old replacment building was.

Update No. 2: L.A. Conservancy director Linda Dishman says this could happen again. Here's why:

This loss is a symptom of an even bigger problem. More than half the cities in L.A. County have no protections for their historic places. Many, including Baldwin Park, haven't even done a survey to identify them. Until cities understand what they have in terms of historic resources -- and have a way to prevent their over-the-counter demolition -- we'll continue to lose our shared history, one building at a time.

First posted at 11:44 a.m.


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Apr4447
Apr4447

Baldwin Park was the ORIGINAL!  I grew up at In & Out.  Rich Snyder was a good friend of mine!  Now, stop it..ok????

Richard S
Richard S

I can be very nostalgic at times.

"Nostalgia" was considered to be a mental disease during the 1800's.

These snippets from the article are priceless --

"the city's most notable landmark"; "City leaders said if they had known the demo was planned they would have tried to stop it."

"In-N-Out burger as a business is significant," she said. "The oldest Bob's Big Boy, McDonald's -- they are are all significant and important.";

"Until cities understand what they have in terms of historic resources -- and have a way to prevent their over-the-counter demolition -- we'll continue to lose our shared history, one building at a time."

It's a no brainer that In-N-Out knew that they'd be dealing with revenue hungry officials who apply "historical significance" in order to make money off of tourists. Baldwin Park has got to be one hell of a dump if it considers a run-down burger joint to be the most notable thing about Baldwin Park. The building itself was an example of the cheap, vulgar "architecture" common to diners and burger joints of the 40's, 50's and 60's.

What is it about our current culture that causes certain people to cherish disposable junk from a world they were not yet born in, in some cases. The older ones seem to be grasping at their own lost youth. These protectors of our "common culture" have no sense of taste or judgement as to what constitutes art, They seem to despise what exists in the here and now.

That In-N-Out has to spar with weirdo "historical preservationists" whenever they want to demolish one of their old burger shacks is extremely disturbing. It is evidence of infantile regression run rampant, and municipal lust for tourist dollars.

What a shame that Baldwin Park and its residents have nothing of value to offer in the way of real culture or industry. They didn't even have the decency to make a fair-market offer for the property. Instead, they would essentially steal it, by encumbering it with restrictions and rules designed to override the owners property rights.

Go see Atlas Shrugged, and read it, if you haven't already.

Baron
Baron

You are off target. The people in the area don't have much to refer to for cultural identity because, most cities are relatively young in years or have been victims of the postwar modernization frenzy and more recently, "urban renewal" projects. Unlike the East Coast the few historic battlegrounds or settlers homes that did exist are now beneath parking lots or overpasses. The rare historic sites that were preserved have coincidentally had high power transmission lines or other public easements run through it.What you don't get is the lack of honor people have displayed by saying one thing and doing another. That is where the insult lies...not in the rubble of an old derelict building.

Pdxjoe1966
Pdxjoe1966

Churnalism strikes again! Maybe if someone spent even 5 minutes doing some basic research, we wouldn't have a half-dozen additions and corrections. The future of journalism, ladies and gentlemen!

Shaunaostler
Shaunaostler

Really people, sometimes the old buildings are the worst place for food production. If it was falling apart, you don't need the asbestos, let alone possible pest issues. From a food safety perspective it's a good thing.

Jonathan Pacheco-Bell
Jonathan Pacheco-Bell

Dennis,

Don't get me wrong, okay, I love the L.A. Weekly. That said, it is demeaning and arrogant of your paper to describe workers who issued the demolition permits as "low-level city staffers." With this rhetoric you imply they're unskilled, possibly inept, and did not heed due diligence in issuing the permits. But their rank is irrelevant here. Unless this property had some kind of overriding historical protections from the city or state, neither permit technicians nor anyone above them could deny issuance of the demolition permit.

Cut the workers some slack. Instead blame In-and-Out for disregarding their own history, which is quite typical of our city.

Guest
Guest

Well said, thank you.

Maustin
Maustin

I think it's a loss. Even Tommy's Burger has kept their runned down original building. That's L.A.'s heritage. It's not Getysburg or MontIcello, but it's something. In L.A. We got Carl's jr., Mc. D's, Pinks, Bob's, Tommy's, Hoff's Hut, Mel's -- the beginning of America's fast food and Burger habit!

Whocares
Whocares

Who really gives a fuck?

Ramon
Ramon

Then fuck off.

Nomnommon
Nomnommon

I usually pay for mine.... lol

Sc_sharkscove
Sc_sharkscove

To the person from the East Coast who dissed the West Coast: FY! Let me see: the Yankees could have torn down the upper grandstand and rebuilt the rest of Yankee Stadium on the original site, but no, they tore the whole thing down and ripped of NYC for a cool $1 billion. At least Boston and Chi town kept their old ball parks. LA Colisseum isn't about to be torn down, same with the Rose Bowl. And if I have anything to say about it, there's nothing wrong with Candlestick that $100 million wouldn't fix to make into a grade A football stadium.

thing fish
thing fish

Dear LA: You have no history. Not much class either. -The East Coast

Baron
Baron

Enjoy the rustbelt friend.

Cityprof
Cityprof

Have you ever been to LA?

jillief
jillief

The oldest Bobs Big Boy was in Glendale, Ca on Colorado. The longest surviving is Burbank. Please check your facts!

Baron
Baron

You are correct.

The_Eye
The_Eye

who cares? A historical designation for a GD hamburger stand? Historical Designations are a joke anyway. How about the person who owns the land gets to say what happens with the land and not the government? How about that 'wild' idea? I mean...Jesus...Baldwin Park seeing an In-N-Out stand as their largest site of cultural pretty much says all you need to know.

Ramon
Ramon

You Son of a Bitch.

Robert
Robert

Was the building not earmarked as a Historic building? I don't buy the politicians didn't know anything about it. How much do you want to make a bet there will be some developer will now start building condos on that land? This has happened one too many times in LA and no one seems to care historic buildings are being destroyed.

INO Fan
INO Fan

A developer wont come in to build because In-n-Out owns that land. It was not the original building anyways, the one in Pasadena is and that one has been deemed a historical landmark by the city of Pasadena.

djgil
djgil

The oldest store is actually #5 on foothill in Pasadena. 1-4 have all been rebuilt. The original Baldwin Park store location is actually under the 10 freeway. The replica should be of the original stand that has been long gone and should be far more interesting to see.

NorCal
NorCal

I agree. I have a distinct recollection, of my first In-N-Out burger at #5 in Pasadena, when I was in about the 8th grade. And yes, I have understood for a long time now, that it was the oldest operating structure in the chain. I now love in northern CA, but still drop by the small Pasadena store whenever I am in town.

Even though the chain has grown tremendously and has expanded into other parts of the west and southwest, In-N-Out is truly a part of the [culture] of SoCal, for those of us who grew up there in the 50's and 60's. In-N-Out; Bob's; The Beach Boys, Surfing, Girls; and Hot Cars!!! :)

Dennis Romero
Dennis Romero

djgil:

It appears you are correct. See my update.

-Dennis

Dennis Romero
Dennis Romero

djgil:

The SGV Tribune says the freeway location, No. 1, was relocated to this spot to make way for the 10, but there is some debate/confusion whether the demolished building was No. 1 or something else. But it claims it was the oldest surviving In-N-Out.

However (good point): I've had a call into In-N-Out corporate to answer that very question.

-Dennis

Nomnommom
Nomnommom

It is my understanding that the original In & Out was across the street. My source is my mother the original dinosaur.

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