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Ballona Wetlands May Be at Mercy of "Fishy" State Commission: Sierra Club, Ballona Institute Allege Wrongdoing

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Ballona Wetlands: Please don't bulldoze me
​In 2003, it felt like victory: after fighting 30 years to protect Ballona Wetlands near Marina Del Rey and Playa Del Rey, environmentalists saved 600 acres, halting plans by developers for thousands of apartments and big shopping centers. With taxpayer help, the state bought the ecosystem for $140 million.

But now, as plans are being made to "restore"  the only ecosystem of its kind that survives in Los Angeles, environmental groups find themselves locked out of decisions that they say are illegally jumping the gun:

"It's been like a runaway train," Patricia McPherson of the Grassroots Coalition told L.A. Weekly Tuesday night at a meeting sponsored by the Sierra Club.

The problem? The Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission. Environmentalists got involved with the Commission when it stepped in to provide oversight on Ballona.

"This is our baby, you're keeping us out," environmentalists say.

McPherson and others say the restoration commission refuses to consider views of environmental groups. The groups strongly question the Commission's motives and processes -- and they question the members that make up the commission.

Rex Frankel has been in the Ballona battle since 1985. He is president of Ballona Ecosystem Education Project (BEEP). "Originally, the community meetings were very cordial," Frankel says. "We were partners with them."

No more. Suddenly drastic "alternatives" have been presented -- with no input from the people who fought hard to save Ballona Wetlands.

Frankel explains that the current proposals by the Commission would bulldoze and flood the uplands, which make up a critical half of the Ballona Wetlands.

"They decided they wanted to do this massive 'let's just rip it all out' with bulldozers."

Environmentalists, in response to proposals made by the restoration commission ask: "Who are you and what are you doing and what are these proposals when you haven't even started the EIR [Environmenal Impact Report] process?" McPherson says .

The Commission, which is supposed to be a state agency within the State Water Board "Is racing out with all these different proposals," McPherson says. "They put the cart before the horse." She says it seems they already know what they want to "find."

Playa Vista, a neighborhood located just north of LAX had originally wanted to develop Ballona Wetlands.

"We believe that Playa Vista is involved," McPherson says. "Everything is fishy at this point."

John Davis is a community member who has been spearheading public records requests and investigations. The fishy thing, he says, is conflict of interest. "The commission is required to develop a conflict of interest policy, they have never adopted one."

Also, Davis explains, the Commission is supposed to be made up of state employees, but includes non-state employees who represent non-profit groups with much to gain.

"It appears that they a gravy train of money going through these grants and getting paid for oversight and hiring contractors - but where is the work?" McPherson asks. "Where are the reports?"

"We are not even allowed to be part of the Commission anymore, as an environmental group. ... If you look at the minutes that they take at these Commission hearings, ... it says 'McPherson complained.'"

"And [Playa Vista] doesn't want the hydrology study because in our lawsuit against them and the City, they suppressed hydrology information."

The Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission did not respond to L.A. Weekly's request for comment.

Marcia Hanscom is co-director of the Ballona Institute, Vice Chair of the Sierra Club Angeles Chapter Conservation and Sierra Club's Ballona Wetlands Restoration Committee Chair. "We have a very active group that was not only working to save Ballona to begin with, but has been monitoring the restoration ... it is already a highly functioning ecosystem."

That is why environmental groups are pushing for minimally invasive restoration which involves school groups and community members -- not bulldozers.

Out of five proposals from the questionable Commission, the state-chosen scientist panel favors the most expensive and most damaging project.

Conservation biologist and Co-Director of Ballona Institute, Robert "Roy" van de Hoek, tells the Weekly there are species that "haven't even been named yet" that would be extinct if the Ballona Wetlands gets bulldozed.

If Ballona Wetlands is preserved "They would go straight onto the endangered list because it would be the only place that they exist."

Not to mention the extinction of countless Ballona Wetlands hiking trails beloved by the community.

Contact Mars Melnicoff at marsmelnicoff@gmail.com / follow @marsmelnicoff

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Nature Gal
Nature Gal

So much anger towards Marcia and Roy, they have worked very hard to preserve wetlands and contrary to what you hear, they have not made millions. I am honored to know them, true stewards of the environment. I have been to SMBRC meetings as well as other meetings and I can assure you, these stake holders are NOT ENVIRONMENTALISTS. What happened to ecology. to loving the earth, to sustainability? I see bagels and coffee and paper plates and talk of bond money. Never once have any of them referred to mother earth as living. Our planet is being destroyed by the "so-called" green movement. Greenwashing at its best.

Briguy90277
Briguy90277

The Coastal Commission has no Jurisdiction in Marina del Rey !!!This is due to the fact that Marina del Rey was once part of a Mexican Land Grant.Don't Take My Word for it. Call the California State Lands Commission, and ask them directly, if the Costal Commission has Jurisdiction in Marina del Rey. I called, and I got the answer from the top person there. Curtis Fossum is the Senior Attorney / Executive Officer for the Ca State Lands Commission. His phone number is (916) 574-1800. He told me that the Coastal Commission has no Jurisdiction in Marina del Rey.Why the Coastal Commission has no Jurisdiction in Marina del Rey:  The Coastal Commission is the result of the Federal Submerged Lands Act.  Mexican Land Grant lands are exempted from the Submerged Lands Act.Marina del Rey sits right in the middle of Rancho Ballona, a Mexican Land Grant; therefore the Coastal Commission has no Jurisdiction in Marina del Rey. Again, don't take my word for it ... call up the California State Lands Commission, and ask them yourself.While you have Curtis Fossum on the phone, ask him how it is that the county of Los Angeles can claim to own Marina del Rey. The county of Los Angeles does not own Marina del Rey. The land belongs to the heirs of the original Mexican Land Grant. This is the ruling of the US Supreme Court in 1984. See: Summa Corp. v. Cal. State Lands Comm'n, 466 U.S. 198 (1984).The City of Los Angeles, along with the State of California tried to acquire the land where Marina del Rey is in a lawsuit filed in 1965 (the same case mentioned above) ... they tried to argue that the land was subject to the Public Trust due to it's Tideland characteristics. That lawsuit was a sham that was designed to create an erroneous belief in the mind(s) of the true owner(s) that they had lost their interest in the land. In fact they never did lose interest. Marina del Rey used to be a part of the City of Los Angeles, and it still should be.The fact that the land was severed from the city and unincorporated seems illegal. The land was unincorporated for the purpose of trying to circumvent the ruling of the US Supreme Court which ruled that the City of Los Angeles and the State of Ca had no business there.Until you bother to understand the true underlying issue of Marina del Rey you will never be able to sort it all out. Los Angeles County doesn't have the authority to put in a gumball machine in Marina del Rey. Don't take my word for it. Call the California State Lands Commission, and ask them Yourself.Here is the bottom line:  Marina del Rey sits in the middle of a Mexican Land Grant, Rancho Ballona.  Mexican Land Grants have a special status as property.  Mexican Land Grants came about due to a Federal War Treaty that ended the Mexican - American War.  Near the end of the Mexican - American War the U.S. made an offer to Mexico to intice them to surender.  The offer was as follows:  If Mexico would agree to surrender, then anyone who had previosly been granted land from the King of Spain or the Governor of Mexico could keep their land, and it would be given inviolable respect ... just as if it was land owned by any U.S. citizen. Normally any coastal lands that are Tidelands automatically become a part of the Public Trust Lands. Public Trust Lands are managed by the state that encompasses them, and are reserved for the use and enjoyment of the People of all states ... this is pursuant to the US Constitution Equal Footing Claus.It would seem that the City of Los Angeles tried to trick the true owners of the land of Marina del Rey into believing their land was lost to the Public Trust. Marina del Rey was a swamp, and so normally Marina del Rey would have been State controlled land; however, Mexican Land Grant Lands are exempted from this rule.  There are no Public Trust Lands in Mexican Land Grants.  The US Supreme Court reaffirmed this in 1984 with their ruling ... Summa Corp. v. Cal. State Lands Comm'n, 466 U.S. 198 (1984).The US Supreme Court overturned a ruling of the Ca high court, and then remanded the case back down to the Ca court ... ordering them to finish out the case in ways not inconsistant with their ruling and opinion.  The Ca high court then remanded the case back down to the Ca Court of Appeals and here is a quote resulting from that ... see (205 Cal.App.3d 1522 , 253 Cal.Rptr. 331)...."This litigation was commenced in 1965. It seems evident that the cost tothe taxpayers of this protracted litigation aimed at circumventing theConstitution and which has consumed some 23 years far exceeds the costfor which the property could have been acquired had the City in 1965simply exercised its power of eminent domain.The judgment is reversed and the matter is remanded to the trial courtwith directions to enter a new and different judgment declaring thatneither the City nor the State has any right to an easement in theaffected property. City to bear costs on appeal."The Ca Court of Appeals remanded the case back to the trial court where the entire sham first began back in 1965.  Problem was, that court, as far as I can tell, no longer existed.  So instead of doing what the US Supreme Court had ordered, they just stuffed the case in a drawer and that is where it still sits to this day. The last notation on this case was in 1997.  The true owners of the land were never served in the case.This is the real reason for all problems in Marina del Rey: the land was never properly acquired... it is still owned by the heirs of the original Mexican Land Grant. The problem is that the true owners have been duped into thinking that they have lost interest in the land yet they still own it.All the documents proving this are available online ... if you want the truth start here:See: Summa Corp. v. Cal. State Lands Comm'n, 466 U.S. 198 (1984).Another great read is the brief filed by the US Solicitor General in the (above) case: see:  SUMMA CORPORATION, PETITIONER V. STATE OF CALIFORNIA EX REL. STATELANDS COMMISSION AND CITY OF LOS ANGELES   No. 82-708   In the Supreme Court of the United States   October Term, 1982   On Writ of Certiorari to the Supreme Court of California   Brief for the United States as Amicus Curiae urging ReversalHere is a quote from the (above) brief:"   The present controversy concerns a small and very shallow tidalbody of water south of Venice, California, a remnant of thesubstantially larger "Ballona Lagoon" connected -- albeit circuitously-- to the Pacific Ocean.  See Pet. 3-5;  Pet. App. A2, A36, A52-A53.It is common ground that the lands underlying the "lagoon" areprivately owned and have been since they were included in a Mexicangrant in 1839, a grant confirmed by the United States, after elaborateproceedings under the Act of Mar. 3, 1851, ch. 41, 9 Stat. 631, byissuance of a patent encompassing the lagoon in 1873.  See Pet. App.A2, A4, A5, A8.  The City of Los Angeles and the State of Californianevertheless asserted the right to dredge the lagoon, construct seawalls, make other improvements therein, and open it to publicnavigation, fishing and recreation, all without exercising the powerof eminent domain, and instituted judicial proceedings in state courtto vindicate these claims.  Pet. App. A2, A3, A36-A37."Well what do you know?  I guess that just about says it all.Wake up people... the County's claim of "owning" MdR is a sham.

Whatever
Whatever

The County does not own Marina del Rey!  This is what the US Supreme Court said in 1984.   Summa Corp. v. Cal. State Lands Comm'n, 466 U.S. 198 (1984).

Mballona
Mballona

We all need to save and preserve Ballona Creek and Ballona Wetlands!

Marcelo Ballona

Headcrusher
Headcrusher

Is the SMBRC a non-profit or a government agency?

Freedom
Freedom

The County doesn't own Marina del Rey.  That is what the U.S. Supreme Court said in 1984.  [see Summa Corp. v. Cal. State Lands Comm'n, 466 U.S. 198 (1984)]

They know that they don't own it, and neither did Howard Hughes (re-named Summa Co.).  The above sited case was designed to create an erroneous belief in the mind of the true owner that he had lost his interest in the land.

The following quote is from the U.S. Solicitor General's amicus currie brief filed in the above case:"The present controversy concerns a small and very shallow tidalbody of water south of Venice, California, a remnant of thesubstantially larger "Ballona Lagoon" connected -- albeit circuitously-- to the Pacific Ocean.  See Pet. 3-5;  Pet. App. A2, A36, A52-A53.It is common ground that the lands underlying the "lagoon" areprivately owned and have been since they were included in a Mexicangrant in 1839, a grant confirmed by the United States, after elaborateproceedings under the Act of Mar. 3, 1851, ch. 41, 9 Stat. 631, byissuance of a patent encompassing the lagoon in 1873.  See Pet. App.A2, A4, A5, A8.  The City of Los Angeles and the State of Californianevertheless asserted the right to dredge the lagoon, construct seawalls, make other improvements therein, and open it to publicnavigation, fishing and recreation, all without exercising the powerof eminent domain, and instituted judicial proceedings in state courtto vindicate these claims."

The last line bears repeating, "The City of Los Angeles and the State of California nevertheless asserted the right to dredge the lagoon, construct sea walls, make other improvements therein, and open it to public navigation, fishing and recreation, all without exercising the power of eminent domain, and instituted judicial proceedings in state court to vindicate these claims."

How much more proof could anyone need?

Ok, here's more proof that the County Doesn't own Marina del Rey:We all know that the county claims to own it, that is for sure, but has anyone ever seen one shred of evidence to support this?  No.  The County beats this drum all day long - they put it in everything they publish.  Yet when you go to the visitor center do you see the Title proudly displayed (or even a xerox copy)?  No!  As much as they hammer that drum to ad nauseam that they own the marina don't you think that if they could actually prove it, they would?  Of corse they would - they would shove it in everyone's face - so why don't they?  Because they don't have it.  WAKE UP!

Lets take a closer look at what doesn't exist:  The following is from a Marina del Rey Periodic LCP (Local Coastal Plan) Review, dated May 25, 2005 - found on pages 31 - 32:

"Jurisdiction in the Marina   At the public workshop in February,2005, and in written comments, some members of the public raised jurisdictional questions. These included: 1) whether the Marina was federally owned and whether it was excluded from the coastal zone, based on initial mapping of the coastal zone, and 2) whether the state had authority over the Marina del Rey as public trust lands.  These issues have been raised and responded to by both the County and the Commission through various prior written responses or responses to Public Records Act requests for information.   The Commission staff has consistently noted that Marina del Rey is not owned by the federal government and is not excluded from the coastal zone. 9   Staff review of early Commission LCP planning materials shows that the Commission has been consistent in noting that the County owns and operates the Marina del Rey and that it is within the coastal zone.  The County described its ownership in a legal memo to the Small Crafts Harbor Commission:  Title information and other records maintained by the County Department of Public Works, demonstrate that the County of Los Angeles owns the fee title to the land and water areas of Marina del Rey, except for a small portion of the main channel that is seaward of the of [sic] Ocean Front Walk (Ocean Front Walk is essentially parallel to the shore line at the seaward edge of the development on both sides of the entrance channel to the Marina).  That particular water portion of the Marina is owned by the state, operated by the City of Los Angeles and was franchised to the County in 1957 to allow for the excavation of the Marina main channel.”  10    And, The United States of America owns two permanent easements affecting the Marina and has also operated a coast guard facility in the Marina since approximately 1962 under a lease from the County.  The two easements cover existing water areas of the Marina main channel and entrance and specifically indicate that their purpose is to allow for the federal government’s construction and maintenance of the entrance channel and main channel facilities of the Marina to create and preserve their navigability. 11  In addition, Marina del Rey does not contain public trust tidelands subject to State public trust doctrine. This was determined through litigation.  The U.S. Supreme Court case, Summa Corp. v. Calif. ex.rel. Lands Commín, 466 U.S. 198 (1984), determined that California waived its right to argue that it acquired right to lands of Rancho Ballona (a Mexican Land Grant Area which includes the Marina del Rey) as an incident to its sovereignty in 1850 (so that it would be subject to the public trust easement) by failing to raise such claims in the 1860s in federal patent proceedings pursuant to the Federal Act passed by Congress on March 3,1851 (ß 8, ch. 41, 9 Stat. 632).   While the Commission did not undertake its own title research due to limited resources and competing priorities, staff believes these jurisdictional questions have been addressed.

__________________________ Footnotes 9, 10 & 11                                            9 Letter from Alex Helperin, Staff Counsel to John Davis, June 2, 2003, p 2.  In addition, even if the Marina del Rey were to be federally owned, federal lands are not, by virtue of their federal status, excluded from the ìcoastal zoneî area defined by the California Coastal Act.  See, e.g., Cal. Pub. Res. Code ßß 30008, 30103, 30150.10 Memo from Richard D. Weiss, Principal Deputy County Counsel, Los Angeles County to Small Craft Harbors Commission, July 14, 2003 p. 2 11 Memo from Weiss (2003) p. 3"__________________________

That last part bears repeating:"While the Commission did not undertake its own title research due to limited resources and competing priorities, staff believes these jurisdictional questions have been addressed."

Are you kidding me?  "staff"?  Who is staff?  That could be anyone who works there, including the window washer or the parking lot attendant, couldn't it? 

BallonaBattle
BallonaBattle

 I don't understand Mars.  I have meet and talked with scientists from SMBRC, and I have meet and talked with the Wetlands Defense Fund individuals.  They are completely different people.  It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out who is blowing smoke, does it?  I remember taking a journalism class in college for engineers/scientists, and one of the first lessons was not to write with bias.  But you say, "Out of five proposals from the questionable Commission, the state-chosen scientist panel favors the most expensive and most damaging project."  Why would you say the Commission is "questionable."  Seems like you've been drawn into the wrong crowd.  

Rex Frankel
Rex Frankel

The State’s favored plan for Ballona fails the test of anatural restoration in three ways: it’s not historically accurate, it counts ona water source for the wetlands that is highly likely to be very polluted for along time, and though we have the recently-stated promise that they will keepthe current habitat mix, with half the site as drier uplands, somehow, they havenot repudiated their plans to bulldoze the uplands. Finally, the public is notbeing told the true cost of this project, which is over $200 million for the“restoration”, plus something like $3 billion to clean up Ballona Creek so itcan be allowed to pour into the wetlands. The full story, in 4 slidepresentations, is posted on Ballona Ecosystem Education Project’s website,saveallofballona dot org.

 

Since the state’s project managers in September of 2008unveiled their plan to completely remove everything and convert this balancedecosystem into virtually all water, they have just-about stopped holdingcommunity meetings to involve the public in their project. Behind the scenes,we have shown them why their proposals don’t make sense, and they have backedoff somewhat, in that they now say that the current habitat mix of halfwetlands and half drier uplands will be retained. The problem remains though,uncontradicted at the May 10th public meeting attended by theSMBRC’s leadership,  that they stillintend to bulldoze the uplands. And that is a major folly of this plan. Anupland by definition is not wet. The only reason you bulldoze a wetland is tolower its elevation so it can flood. An upland is virtually anything that isnot flooded: a mountain, a hill, a sand dune. The only reason to bulldoze anupland is to convert it into a wetland. If it’s going to stay an upland,there’s no reason to bulldoze it. You can pull out the weeds. But you don’tneed to scrape away 15 feet of earth.

 

Don’t get me wrong. I like wetlands. I’ve spent the last 26years fighting to save them. But wetlands need uplands. You’ve got to have aplace for critters to hunt: the wetlands. You’ve got to have a place for themto build their nests: those are the uplands. Ballona is an ecosystem, not amono-culture. We need both habitats.

 

One can look at the restoration of the Bolsa Chica wetlandsin Orange County to see the mixed success. There,the salt marsh looks great. But the added sea water is killing the trees at theuplands that serve as the main homes for red-tail hawks and other raptors. Theproblem, again, was a plan that favored wetlands and so the upland habitatssuffered.

 

Only at our coastal wetland parks in California do officials think completelybulldozing and dredging the place is acceptable. We would never allow Griffith Park to be stripped bare and completelymade-over. I share Jessica’s Hall’s desire to remove as much concrete from ourrivers and creeks as is possible, however, only when it doesn’t wipe outexisting homes for wildlife and our hiking trails. In the paved-over cityalongside Ballona Creek, it would be great to remove the creek’s concrete banksand replace it with trees and places for critters.

 

The problem is that removing the levees at the BallonaWetlands is a completely different story. The levees, as Jessica pointsout, currently separate the creek from the rest of the preserve, so the creekdoes not currently flow into the wetlands anymore. These levees were built toprotect the low lying coastal areas north and south of the levees from flooding,some of which are now part of the state’s preserve. True, the levees havealtered the natural situation. But 150 years of paving and development in L.A. means that we cannotgo back to completely natural anymore. What the levees do is keep the highlypolluted urban runoff, which pours down our streets carrying trash, oil,grease, dog poop and bacteria, eventually flowing towards the ocean in BallonaCreek, from getting into the fragile Ballona Wetlands. The levees areun-natural but they serve an important naturally-beneficial purpose: keepingman’s pollution out of the wildlife habitat. It would be both a violation ofthe federal Clean Water Act and simply immoral to rip out the levees and allowthe wetlands which we fought to save for so many years to become a pollutiondump site. (That’s why Jessica’s point that the levees are harmful might technicallybe true, but this isn’t 1850, and removing the levees which protect thewetlands from the storm drain pollution from Hollywood etc. would be moreharmful.)

 

Cleaning up this pollution requires the acquisition of 2400acres of private land upstream of the Ballona Wetlands to create a naturalpollution filtration system, a project which is slated to be finished by 2021. Theproblem is that 2021 is an extremely optimistic date, and here’s why: Thisacreage estimate comes from the SMBRC’s Green Solutions Study published in 2009by their engineering consultant. (Community Conservation Solutions). Theproblem is that there is no undeveloped land at low elevations left in theBallona creek valley, besides the 600 acre Ballona wetlands preserve. Thus, forthe SMBRC’s Ballona Wetlands flooding plan to work, the upstream purchase andremoval of 2400 acres of urban development must be financed and completedbefore the levees downstream can be removed. How many people live on 2400 acresof developed land in the Ballona Valley? Do themath—that’s 25 to 50,000 people if it’s low density single family homes. Muchmore if it’s apartments.

 

Those of us who’ve been in the Ballona battle know that ittook 30 years to pry 600 acres of VACANT land out of a developer’s grip. I canimagine the enormous difficulties that await the city sanitation engineers whenthey try to buy and evict people from 4 times as much land. That’s why Ibelieve tying the wetlands restoration to the success of the upstreamstormwater pollution cleanup is foolhardy. There are other ways to bring more waterinto the wetlands without removing the entire levee system. I would support analternative ocean access channel being dug to bring tidal flows into theexisting lowlands south of Ballona creek. That does not mean, however, that theuplands on the north side of Ballona creek need to be dredged out at all.

 

What the Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission wants to dois turn the entire remaining undeveloped lowlands and highlands at Ballona intoa flood zone. That way they can make the wetlands into a major fish nursery forthe ocean. That’s a laudable goal. However, this goal can be accomplishedwithout the $200 million-plus project and the ripping out of everything. Removalof the levees and conversion of the upland refuges into a flood zone means thatwith every winter storm, the wildlife that now has higher ground to retreat toin a flood, as half the site currently is the drier highlands,  will have to retreat into the developed areasof Marina Del Rey and Playa del Rey. These densely developed areas will becomethe new “upland” escape zones in even normal rain events for wildlife. That’snot a happy outcome.

 

I believe that there are good reasons to bring back water tothe Ballona preserve, but in a much more limited way than the folks at SMBRCadvocate. If Ballona Creek is ever cleaned up, maybe it can be allowed to flowthrough smaller channels through the wetlands south of the creek. Thehistorical photos posted on BEEP’s website show small channels were therebefore man arrived and farmed it and built roads. What the historical maps andphotos do not show is the entire 600 acres being an arm of the ocean.

 

Finally, to those anonymous defenders of the SMBRC on thiscomments page, maybe this will help you understand the concerns of long-timeBallona defenders: the anger at the SMBRC stems from a community-planningprocess that originally met each month. Then it was taken over by astate-appointed science panel dominated by experts who advocate majorbulldozing. This panel met a few times locally in seven hour meetings at whichthe public was not allowed to speak until the very end of the meeting. Later,this committee met for a while in Costa Mesa. From this rigged process came the bulldoze-it-allplan. The very few recent SMBRC meetings on Ballona have been packed withrepresentatives of engineering firms looking to grab this plum project, againwith public input allowed at the last 5 minutes. Thus, what was a model ofcommunity involvement in the planning process became dog-and-pony shows riggedto keep the public out for the apparent benefit of the wetland bulldozingindustry.

--Rex Frankel

--Re 

Santamonicabaybirther
Santamonicabaybirther

How long was this hatchet job in the works? How much time did you give SMBRC to reply? I'll bet it was less than a day, right? You have the "expert" opinion of a washed up actress, an unstable conspiracy theorist , someone who makes a living suing public agencies for profit, and her pseudo-scientist/boyfriend. Speaking of Roy, he claims to have over 70 published reports. That's awesome. Maybe you should ask him how many of those reports have been peer reviewed. I'm thinking none, but that's just a guess. Anyway, who cares if your work is evaluated by qualified, unbiased, individuals who are professionals in your field.

Antonio2050_2
Antonio2050_2

John Davis needs to hire a lawyer who can actually read and interpret the law (or at the very least, take a university professor with a basic understanding of government structure to lunch).  His readings of the SMBRC MOU are specious at best.

The requirement that the State Water Board "shall provide administrative services" does not have the converse that he claims. That section of the law requires the State Water Board to provide those services, but it does not preclude services from being provided elsewhere.  It is not a limiting or prohibitive clause in the law.  Mr. Davis will be unable to find anywhere in state law that prohibits an entity such as the SMBRC from using other resources, as it does and will continue to do.  Several public entities throughout the state enjoy public/private partnerships.  This is an existing and historical fact that the most basic research will reveal.  Mr. Davis has not done any research.  He has merely drawn conclusions without any legal background or legal consultation.

John Davis also incorrectly states that the Bay Watershed Council has not met since 2002.  Anyone who regularly attends SMBRC meetings will know that the Bay Watershed Council meets every December to elect nine of its members to the SMBRC Governing Board, including Bay Watershed Council president Richard Bloom.  There are agendas and minutes that Mr. Davis has not bothered to ask for or check.  The SMBRC MOU requires annual meetings and those meetings are public.

The problem here is that John Davis does not do his homework before he draws foolish, yet public conclusions, discrediting himself and marginalizing his misguided "cause."  His apparently sudden interest in the SMBRC's activities in recent months is not based on any historic attendance on his part of SMBRC meetings, understanding of SMBRC activities, nor even the most basic interviews of those who regularly participate in the SMBRC's functions.

Sad, too, that the article chooses to quote Mr. Davis' statements regarding a Conflict of Interest Code as fact without doing the most basic fact checking with the proper state entities.  The SMBRC has had a Conflict of Interest Code on file with the Fair Political Practices Commission since 2004.  It is a public document that is easily acquired.  Unfortunately, the LA Weekly writer either lacked the experience to do basic fact checking, or the editor was too eager to make a quick deadline to actually promote quality journalism.

It would be wise for John Davis and those who follow his questionable logic to consult with someone who actually understands government structure, can actually read state law, and has a history of attendance at SMBRC meetings.  Otherwise, foolish statements and (frankly) bad "journalism" are the result.

It's one thing to not agree with the policies and actions of a particular entity like the SMBRC, but it's another thing to lash out publicly without knowing the facts in an attempt to discredit hard, honest work.

In the end it only discredits the accuser.

And that's a damn shame.

Santamonicabaybirther
Santamonicabaybirther

 Awesome! Only one question... How the hell could you interpret his rantings?

JD
JD

 Hello,

There is one small mistake in the article which I would like to correct. The Staff of theSMRBC is required by the Public Resource Code to be provided by State Water Resources, not the Commission itself.

For instance, the positition of Deputy Director is occupied by Staff provided by by the State as an adminstrative service. However the positition of Executive Director is not.

California Public Resources Code 30988.2 requires the following.

"...the State Water Resources Control Board shall provide administrativeservices to the commission."

Conversley read, any entity that is NOT State Water Resources shall NOT provideadminstrative services to the Commission.

Both statments according to the rules of logic are equal in truth value.

The question is now begged, how can Staff of a non-profit be instatlled as an adminstrative service for Executive Director.

The Commission is allowed to install an Executive Dirctor but is prohibited from obtaing that adminstrative service from any entity not the State.

Furthermore, in the Memo of Understanding (MOU) which specifies the authorities of the Commission, allowance is made to coordinate with local entities. But, this does not mean that the Commisson can intigrte local entities into the Staff because that is prohibited by sectoin 30988.2.

The Commission is required to implement the MOU by adopting a Conflice of Interest Code,not simply reference the MOU.

The adoption by the Commission is the agreement of the Commission to abide by the Conflice of Interest Code.

The Commission has not and appears to be rife with conflict.

In accordance with the MOU the Commission is a three part structure.

The Governing Board.The Technical Advisory CommitteeThe Bay Watershed Council.

"The Bay Watershed Council is the broad stakeholder body of the Commission"

"The promary responsibility of the Bay Watershed Council is to advise the Governing Board on Bay Restoration prioritites for funding, planning, project implementation.... (From the MOU)

The Council is also supposed to provide working committees chaired by members.

However, the Chair of the Governing Board, Richard Bloom, also claims to be the President of the Bay Watshed Council even there is no record of that body ever having met since 2002.

It is the Bay Watershed Council that elects a Chair.

So, in conclusion, it seems that the Governing Board has frozen out the public by failing to convenes the Bay Watershed Council.

This is only the tip of the iceberg.

John Davis

Santamonicabaybirther
Santamonicabaybirther

 BTW John, how many other organizations can you name that have more stakeholder representation than the SMBRC? The Governing Board and Bay Watershed Council represent every city in the watershed, multiple county agencies, enviros, state and federal agencies, business, and the public. Who do you represent (aside from Donald Trump)?

Santamonicabaybirthers
Santamonicabaybirthers

Hope you are reading this Mars. Even though John's comments are just this side of incomprehensible, he is selectively editing and totally mangling some of the responses to his and McPherson's PRA that you state they were never given. Maybe you should consider checking your facts before you print this crap. Seriously, can you even figure out what this guy is saying?

 "...the State Water Resources Control Board shall provide administrativeservices to the commission."

"Conversley read, any entity that is NOT State Water Resources shall NOT provideadminstrative services to the Commission."

Really? Sorry John, but that's not how it reads, conversley [sic] or otherwise.  It does not say that NO other organization can supply services to the Commission.

Unless you are from Mars, Mars, you must be reading his comments and wondering what the F...K!

GeorgeX
GeorgeX

What I think is FISHY is Marcia Hanscom changing the name of her organization at least four times in the last five years... Wetlands Action Network, C.L.E.A.N., Ballona Institute, Wetlands Defense Fund, etc. etc. And, why are they all under umbrella of the mysterious International Humanities Center<That might make for an interesting investigation. I'd love to see where she's getting her money.

Santamonicabaybirthers
Santamonicabaybirthers

 That's because Hanscum's only means of support is filing lawsuits and hoping for settlements. I would love to see someone FINALLY look into her schemes to bilk the public out of millions of dollars. 

Sandy Hamilton
Sandy Hamilton

Boy, is it interesting to see the attacks on those who seem to only be wanting the best for the Ballona Wetlands.   There indeed must be many millions of dollars at stake.  Otherwise, the anonymous people responding to Ms. Hanscom's substantive comments with vitriol and Rush Limbaugh-type personal accusations might have responded to the serious concerns she articulated. 

Walter Lamb
Walter Lamb

George - This just strikes me as a distraction from the questions that are being asked.  If you were curious about the "mysterious" International Humanities Center, I think you probably would have just typed it into Google and quickly learned that there is nothing nefarious about it at all. http://ihcenter.org/groups/bal... If you find evidence that Marcia is getting funds from the giant anti-dredging lobby I'm sure you'll share that :).  I really do hope that we can all pull back and start a more open dialog where we simply evaluate the pros and cons of available alternatives.  If Marcia or Rex or anyone else is making a claim that someone believes is inaccurate, that is perfectly fair game and we will all benefit from such a discussion. The objections that have been raised are pretty straightforward.  I have looked on the SMBRC web site for rebuttals and haven't seen any.  That does make me think that the strategy is to ignore those objections rather then address them and that raises flags for me.  In the analysis on alternate 5, it is acknowledged that is includes the most risk.  Certainly, then, it isn't wrong for the public to want to better understand that risk and to also understand why less risky solutions shouldn't be given an opportunity first. Again, just my personal two cents. Walter Lamb  

Marcia Hanscom
Marcia Hanscom

The Bay Commission people and their bond-funded beneficiaries are simply not well informed as to the historical nature of Ballona.  Either that, or the government money they hope to get their hands on with which to oversee this project has blinded them to the facts.

There never was a major year-round opening to the sea, and while the Ballona Creek levees are now there (they are earthen and mud bottom in this part of the Creek, not a "completely concrete channel" as they like to characterize it) -- that are, combined with the tidally-influeced Ballona Lagoon Marine Preserve, Del Rey Lagoon, the Marina portion of historical Ballona and Grand Canal Lagoon are plenty and sufficient for the MARINE species the Bay Commission and Heal the Bay seem to favor and understand better than those species which live in the more fresh and brackish, as well as coastal upland areas.   There are now way more of these marine species present in the Ballona ecosystem than there were in the recent historical past.   No need for "restoration" to extend the bay inland even further.La Ballona needs the rest of its habitat - seasonal ponds, rain-filled salt panne, nontidal pickleplant, wet meadows, freshwater seeps and various upland habitat types - to be PROTECTED.   Restoration does not require bulldozers and heavily mechanized alterations.   The Bay Commission proposals are like doing brain surgery for someone with a headache.  Restoration needs to be loving, slow, respectful of the imperiled species which call the place home and involving the community.

Jessica Hall
Jessica Hall

I would be laughing if this wasn't smearing good people doing solid work. The SMBRC is among public environmental agencies (technically it's a state entity) being dragged through the mud for preferring to relocate the Ballona Creek levees to the (almost) outer edges of the state property - and while I could respect a point of view that says hey, what's colonized within the current disturbed ecosystem is valuable, it is absurd to ignore the realities of the effects of manmade levees and constrained tidal flows on a wetlands system and pretend that it is highly functioning with these structures. You may discredit me on the grounds that I'm former SMBRC staff and remain friends with current staff, or that I've received a contract for work on Ballona Creek*, or that I'm not a scientist - that is entirely within the spirit of the article, and variations of that kind of discrediting have been spun for just about anyone not in agreement with your sources. So for the skeptics, here's a fun fact: the Regional Water Quality Control Board listed hydromodification (aka the levees) as a water quality impairment for the Ballona Wetlands, in other words the levees themselves impact the wetlands in a way that violates the Clean Water Act. And for the curious, I recommend a Google Maps/Earth tour of the California coast to observe how our healthiest coastal ecosystems don't have levees parked between wetlands and creeks. And if it took heavy machinery to place those levees, it will probably take heavy machinery to remove them. 

*And where's the study for that money? Downloadable on the SMBRC website.

Walter Lamb
Walter Lamb

I am affiliated with the Ballona Wetlands Land Trust but I am writing this as a concerned individual who, like many members of the general public, is just hungry for answers to all of the good questions raised by folks like Marcia, Rex and Patricia.  While I don’t always agree with their positions or how they articulate them, they have worked tirelessly for decades along with folks like Tom Francis, Sabrina Venskus and others in protecting many more acres of this critical ecosystem than many thought possible.  It is worth noting that this discussion would be moot if Playa Vista had been able to realize their initial vision of development.While I can sympathize with the indignation of honest and well-meaning employees of the Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission in feeling accused of impropriety, it would also be naïve to think that no pressure at all is being applied, whether directly or indirectly, by entities with significant financial interest in what is budgeted as a 200 million dollar project.  It is fair and necessary for members of the public to demand transparency to ensure that public money, spent on public lands, ultimately serves the public interest in the form of the best long term outcome for this ecosystem.  It is not the job of a state agency to be indignant or defensive, but rather to serve the public.While the SMBRC web site is well designed and full of information, I feel that it misses a great opportunity to embrace opposition to the proposed project and to address it directly.  Any member of the public should be able to see the commonly raised objections to this project followed by a healthy discussion of each objection.  Does SMBRC disagree with the objection?  Do they agree but think it is insignificant in terms of the overall picture?  Have they not had the opportunity to study the objection yet?  This is the kind of collaborative, interactive discussion that would better serve the public.For example, is there legitimate ecological value to upland habitat in this ecosystem?  Will some sensitive species be further threatened if this project is approved and implemented?  Is there risk associated with this project and if so how much and what are the potential consequences?  Would pollution levels in the Ballona Creek pose a threat to the ecosystem if the earthen levies were removed?  These questions and others should be asked and answered in the FAQ section of the web site followed by the opportunity for interactive discussion.I encourage the SMBRC to address these and other questions directly.  It is not enough to just speak glowingly about the need to restore the wetlands without providing the public access to other perspectives and information.  Rex, Marcia and Patricia, among others, have done extensive research and raised significant concerns.  SMBRC doesn’t have to agree with their conclusions, but they ought to address them publicly.Walter LambCulver City  

Jessica Hall
Jessica Hall

Hi Walter, Funding recommendations are voted on at Governing Board meetings, which are open to the public. The Bay Commission, as a National Estuary Program, has a Bay Plan that establishes priorities for action and funding. They provide regular reports to the EPA on their activities, in addition to whatever reporting various programs funded under state grants requires. What I see is that when the parties concerned are not happy with outcomes, such as the selection of Alternative 5 as a preferred alternative, they abandon discussion and go into attack mode - anything to discredit their opponents. To me, the accusations of malfeasance are specious and only intended to create an atmosphere of distrust of the Commission. Over the years, wetlands scientists connected with both Malibu and Ballona restoration efforts have endured unspeakable amounts of belittling of their expertise and credentials by these same people - because they didn't like the findings of the scientists. Yes there should be transparency, but what's happening here is more like an attempt to derail an organization doing work a group of people don't like. I don't know what the appropriate public process for that should be, but I don't think a witch hunt supported by incredibly one-sided journalism is the answer. And actually there's been no public comment from the SMBRC so it's also a little preemptive to describe their response as defensive. I'm outraged, but I'm no longer staff. 

There were five alternatives in the planning process - three of them proposed minimal, incremental approaches to increasing tidal interaction with the wetlands that would have maintained much of the fill soils and upland habitats. There was a Science Advisory committee and also an Agency committee that considered all alternatives. This included State Fish and Game who as I'm sure you know has endangered species recovery front and center in their mission. There are biologists working for the SMBRF (the non-profit wing) who are monitoring the wetlands, checking for herpivores, birds, etc. They hosted a symposium this past winter on wetland science and progress on their findings. There's been a multi-year process with stakeholder meetings. And this is all prelude to an EIR where the final alternative is selected for design. The EIR is also where mitigation gets determined. If upland species are to be impacted by the selected alternative, all the relevant agencies will be calling for mitigation. But I agree the loss of upland habitat is a significant issue, and something that anyone with a lawn instead of native landscaping should answer for. The 600+ acres of the Ballona Wetlands is a tiny percentage of the Ballona watershed, so why don't we all manage ecologically responsible landscapes, why aren't our city and county governments more accountable in protecting habitat - and why do we focus only on the state's responsibility in this regard?

Walter Lamb
Walter Lamb

Hi Jessica -

I agree that personal attacks in either direction are a distraction for the important questions that need answering.  You can see that there is plenty of vitriol directed at those raising questions as well.  I also understand that a great deal of work has been done by the commission.

All I am asking for is for the commission to address the issues that have been raised on its official website so that interested persons such as myself can at least understand their response.  If you strip away the non-scientific barbs, there are some claims being made that could easily be addressed by SMBRC on its web-site.  To me, this is a pretty basic element of civil discourse.

The web site should not be viewed as a tool to influence public opinion in favor of the selected alternative but to provide the public with as much factual information as possible.  That is not to say that the land should be at the whim of a popular vote.  It is simply to provide greater transparency and accountability.

I think we can all agree that not every decision arrived at by a group of experts has turned out the way those experts predicted.  Whether raising concerns about a military invasion, the safety of a nuclear facility, or the best alternative for restoring an ecosystem, I tend to think that it is better to address concerns than to ignore them.

That said, I would be interested to see someone respond to the claims made here by Rex and Marcia.  Do you believe that runoff pollution in the creek is not a legitimate concern when proposing to remove the levees?  I'm assuming that the scientists backing the removal of the levees would dispute Rex's claim.  But when I read the feasibility study and search on the word pollution, it only turns up one unrelated passage [the importance of upland habitat, interestingly enough].

It seems to me that I ought to be able to fairly easily find a rebuttal to the key claims being made by opponents to Alternative 5.  As someone who donated time and money to the cause of preserving this area, I would never oppose the best ecological solution out of stubbornness or spite, but at the same time I'm to not prepared to support a solution on faith.

I hope that seems reasonable.

Walter Lamb

Mars Melnicoff
Mars Melnicoff

Hi Jessica,

Patricia McPherson is currently being forced to take legal action in order to have her public records requests filled. The reports and data she refers to are not anywhere to be found. Thanks for reading.

Mars Melnicoff

Santamonicabaybirther
Santamonicabaybirther

BS Mars! Please note JD's comments below. Some of his (bizarre) comments are strangely edited replies to their PRA request. So I guess we can assume that they are quoting a PRA response that does not exist. Has for the reports and data, you can't supply what does not exist. One report, out of the three she and Davis requested, is available on the SMBRC website. The other two reports have yet to be completed. Both McPhereson and Davis have been told this DOZENS of times. It doesn't matter how much information you supply to a conspiracy theorist (AKA Birther, Truther, Deather). There is no convincing those who choose not to accept reality. However, I would assume that any good reporter would be sure to check his/her facts. I guess that's not the case with you. 

 

Guest
Guest

Mars, Did you go to the SMBRC website or the BallonaRestoration.org website?  There are hundreds of pages of documents available for download.  Patricia is looking for some other documents that don't exist - that is why they are nowhere to be found.  

Lesamiller
Lesamiller

Although anyone standing to make money from developing land AND a huge proportion of people simply not caring will not agree, saving places like Ballona Wetlands is essential on many levels... environmentally, scientifically, ethically, politically & spiritually. Do the right thing, State Commission - leave what little remains for wild animals who depend on it & humans who enjoy this little gem tucked in between a sprawling megalopolis.

Rexfrankel
Rexfrankel

Thanks, Mars.

To see all the slide presentations from the Sierra Club's meeting on the Ballona restoration plans, they are posted here: http://saveallofballona.org

--Rex Frankel, director, Ballona Ecosystem Education Project

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