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L.A. County to Bypass Judge, Declare Dogs 'Vicious' for Minor Offenses Like Chasing or Causing Heart Attacks

Categories: Animal Rights

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Who, me? Vicious?
Update: The ordinance is a done deal -- unanimously approved by the Board of Supervisors. According to City News Service, "one attorney who has defended the owners of allegedly vicious dogs says the new ordinance could mean a death sentence for exuberant puppies."

Originally posted July 19 at 3:25 p.m.

In an effort to save L.A. County court costs -- and protect the public from rogue domestic beasts, at once! -- the Board of Supervisors has voted to give Department of Animal Care and Control officers the power to declare dogs "vicious." Once that declaration is made, an animal can be, at best, forced to wear a bright yellow collar (sort of like a Megan's Law sex-offender listing, for dogs), and at worst, confined, muzzled or euthanized.

City News Service reports that pet owners will then have five days to contest the "vicious" tag in court.

"There doesn't necessarily have to be a bite," Marcia Mayeda, director of Animal Control, told CBS LA.

"If a dog's charging at you down the street and you jump on top of a car to get out of the way, that's a potentially dangerous dog."

Great for cat people. Not so great for owners of dogs with sporadic anger issues (like Dr. Phil!), animal-rights activists and personal-freedom activists in general.

City News explains how animal-control officers will now be responsible for judge-like duties, to a somewhat concerning extent:

The ordinance allows hearing officers to consider prior attacks in another jurisdiction in making that determination. It also expands the definition of a severe injury to include not just bites, cuts or fractures caused directly by a dog, but also, for example, a heart attack suffered as a result of a dog's aggression.

In other words, it's not just the spike-collared, street-credded Rottweilers of "Dog Wars" that could end up behind bars (or under the needle), at the mercy of any old Animal Control officer, with the new ordinance in place.

A final administrative vote remains, but all four supervisors present at the meeting today voted "yes," so approval is highly probable. We've contacted Animal Control for comment.

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Training Dog Leash
Training Dog Leash

 Such a helpful article . Gotta keep following your post . Thanks  :D

Training Dog on Leash
Training Dog on Leash

Why things happened this way ? Poor animals . Thanks for the share anyway . :)

anonymous
anonymous

When will the Supervisors declare coyotes vicious.  After they eat up all our pets?  And, where are those thousands of "animal lovers" who show up in defense of these creatures now.  Friggin hypocrites. 

anonymous
anonymous

This law is so egregious and one-sided that I'm shocked that the SPCA hasn't stepped in.  They can kiss my contributions goodbye.  As an animal lover, I've always adopted my dogs from shelters, one of them being an abused, terrified 4-year old, 25 pounds mixed breed.  We were walking her & our other 20-pound dog on leashes on a narrow sidewalk in our neighborhood in Pasadena.  From nowhere, a jogger rushed through us startling everyone & almost knocking us down at which the dog nipped him in the leg.  You can guess the result of this encounter.  The Pasadena SPCA showed up at our house & tagged the dog as vicious & our side of the story mean't nothing to them.  Our dog was quarantined for 10 days & you know what will happen next if we encounter another idiot like this jogger. 

I'm willing to contribute to any organization willing to fight this idiotic law which gives so much power to these animal bureaucrats.

anonymo
anonymo

Make sure you know everything about the organizations you are contributing to. The ASPCA and The Humane Society of the United States take in millions of charity dollars annually, but do relatively little to help pets get adopted, and if fact, are very much in favor of a high-kill shelter paradigm. Local SPCAs and humane organizations may or may not be aligned with the ideals of the bigger organizations. So you have to do your homework. Peruse this site for more info and spread the word. http://www.nathanwinograd.com/...

Lightnapper
Lightnapper

Similar story-- My dog was on a leash, and we were in a large field. I bent down to tie my shoelace before proceeding. A man approached us. I repeatedly told him not to try and pet my dog. He reached down anyway and tried to pet her head. She nipped him, but drew no blood or left any marks. He left. About ten minutes later, the police have us detained and the guy is off to the hospital. WTF? Set up by a jerk. 10 day quarantine, record with Animal Control, next bite equals destruction. She was a 10 year-old, twenty pound terrier mix with dull teeth. Thankfully. Funny ironic, since I train professional protection dogs. Lesson learned. We are the "handlers" of our dogs, so we are always responsible for their actions even when idiots are around. Always be aware of your surroundings as people with bad intentions and clueless morons lurk everywhere. When I am with my dogs, I do not trust anyone in public to have a working brain. Plus, I trained my dogs to be smarter than the average LA citizen.

anonymous
anonymous

You are so correct.  In our case the jogger came from behind with no warning.  If I see someone with or without dogs, I have the common courtesy to warn them that I'm passing through so people have time to react.  The point of this story was that the Supervisors think that are taking care of large,vicious dogs, but there are also small terriers like mine that are caught in this vicious track when discretion is left to petty bureaucrats.  Seeing how he behaved, I'm no longer willling to trust the future of my dogs to such people.  As you said, there are too many idiots in this city where people will allow their small kids to come & pet our "puppies".  I never allow that much to their dissatisfaction. 

If this senseless law is allowed there will be too many unhappy dog owners who'll wake up too late to see the destruction of their beloved pets.

natums
natums

This is the equivalent of detaining any person who is in public and isn't carrying ID on suspicion of being an illegal immigrant. It won't be fair or just, because you won't accuse a white middle aged man of that, you will only pursue it when they have a clear ethnic background that has higher probability of being an illegal immigrant.

Example in this case: a Golden Retriever chases a jogger, jogger is maybe scared of dogs, and panics. Once this report gets to animal control they will likely hear from the owner it is a Golden and immediately assume the jogger overreacted at a playful golden. If it was a bull dog or terrier, they might pursue it. 

Has nothing to do with the potentially vicious nature of any dog, it's all perception of breeds. 

Border Collies will be screwed by this law too, their herding instincts are EXTREMELY difficult to train out, despite being well tempered and loyal dogs, they want to control things that run away.

Lightnapper
Lightnapper

We humans call it a leash. I know...novel idea.

natums
natums

Dude?! You look at most dogs and turn and run the other way, they will chase you!!! 

Gwen Lebec
Gwen Lebec

It has been many, many years since I was able to walk my own dog on a leash in my own neighborhood - or even take a walk in my neighborhood - due to the proliferation of big aggressive dogs, usually running loose but often just not under control.  I love dogs, but most of us are now prisoners of all you insecure idiots who need big macho dogs and don't want to take any responsibility for them and what they do to people, other animals, and the general decline of neighborhoods. You all scream that it is not the breed it is the individual - and now complain when the County wants more individual responsibility.  If you actually cared about the dogs and worked for spaying and neutering, better selection of pets, more training, etc. such that fewer dogs were abandoned or killed, it would make sense. But no - it's just breed, breed, breed more macho dogs and let them terrorize everyone.  I am really tired of losing my rights to move freely and safely in the community so you can have the right to breed dogs and act macho!

Lightnapper
Lightnapper

Sound argument, and oh so very,very true. And I have working dogs.

Honor
Honor

So dogs aren't supposed to be dogs anymore?  Herding breeds are programmed to chase moving objects, it's part of their DNA.  So if at a dog park a herding dog chases you, he could be deemed "dangerous" by someone not able to get a better job than minimum wage for the county and euthanized.  This policy stinks and the board of supervisors should be voted out of office.

Apples
Apples

How about you - the responsible dog owner - actually take responsibility and train and monitor your dog properly and safely?  How about that idea?

anonymous
anonymous

LA Animal Shelter employees are being investigated for dishonesty, theft & selling of shleter dogs.  Do we want such rogues making death decisions for people's pets?

SpencerJ
SpencerJ

Please read the article again. It plainly states that you can appeal to a judge.

Eliixir
Eliixir

It is not fair for dogs owner , they should give them the chance to defend their animal and be able to train them if they happen to be aggressive for the first time... 

SpencerJ
SpencerJ

Actually you should train your dog BEFORE it attacks someone.

And the owner IS given the chance to defend their animal in court.

B. Larry
B. Larry

I've never been personally chased on top of a car by a dog, but I imagine that if I had been, or a child near me had been, I would want some kind of action taken.  If the argument is that the mechanism isn't subtle enough, well, that's a bureaucracy for you.  There's also no subtle mechanism to deal with that a mattress in-lanes that will sit there for 3 hours in peak traffic, I find.  At the end of the day, there are a lot of unstable animals in this city, and of course that's because of their unstable owners, but should I really have to consider that once I'm atop the roof of a Jeep Grand Cherokee?   Most people in this town, me included, would be loathe to bring about having someone's dogs taken away or killed, so I can't help but think people who bring complaints have a decent reason for it.  

natums
natums

I know someone who is scared of dogs, as a result, he turns and runs any time he sees a dog. Dogs almost always will chase anything that makes eye-contact then runs away, it's not a vicious nature. If you climb on top of a car and the dog doesnt climb up and bite you, it's not looking to harm you, it's likely thinking its a game.

Lightnapper
Lightnapper

Train the dog by incarcerating the owners. A good muzzling never hurt anyone.

Izzy Vanover
Izzy Vanover

I don't think one person should be allowed to determine the fate of one animal. There's too much killing going on as it is!

anonymous
anonymous

I declare all the four supervisors to be vicious to humans who should wear a red collar as a warning of their stupidity.

Eliixir
Eliixir

Some humans are much more vicious than any animal on this planet and they defend themselves while animals have no rights to defend themselves!

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