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Wal-Mart Buys Up Monster Lot in Burbank; Facebook Protesters Say 'Hell No'

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There comes a time in every sleepy suburban town's life when it must go head-to-head with the Wal-Mart empire. There is the initial outcry -- the sidewalk picketers, the angry speeches at City Council meetings -- and, too often, the inevitable defeat.

(Followed by a sheepish midnight trip to pick up a jumbo pack of unbeatably cheap toilet paper. Don't deny it.)

In the case of Burbank, a growing "No Wall Mart" Facebook campaign in response to the monster chain's purchase of the 12-acre Great Indoors facility in the Empire Center is a little puzzling:

Target, Best Buy, Lowe's and Costco all run major rectangles on the same patch of concrete. But members of the Facebook mob describe their hometown as "small, friendly and clean," and argue that a Walmart would be the straw that breaks small-business owners' banks:

"Costco hurt us small businesses bad enough," posts Cathy Caldarell-Whitaker, listed as a local florist. "Bring in Walmart and kiss us independents goodbye."

In a poll on the page, 54 of 69 voters answered "Hell no" to the question: "Do you want a Wal Mart in Burbank, CA?" And Eric Ahlroth of nearby Tujunga writes:

"I have a friend with a small store on Magnolia in Burbank and he tells me that this Walmart will probably spell the end of his business. It's not David vs. Goliath, it's more like an ant versus an atomic power plant. I wouldn't exactly call it fair competition. Here in Tujunga we fought off a Home Depot we didn't want but the fight was long and gruesome."

Indeed -- the townspeople will have to majorly transcend their Internet pep talk for even the slightest chance of elbowing out the kingpin of consumer culture. As Ventura and El Monte residents can attest, even a long, gruesome legal fight is unlikely to turn in favor of the ants.

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"There have been a lot of fights that have not been successful, and a few that have been," says Danny Feingold, communications director for L.A. Alliance for a New Economy (LAANE).

In 2004, Wal-Mart Inc. was dealt a major blow after it announced plans to build 60 superstores throughout California. Lean, green activists in both NorCal and SoCal fought tooth and nail to bar out the chain, often via city zoning regulations.

Among the biggest victors of that movement were the voters of Inglewood, who defeated a big-money-backed referendum that would have allowed Wal-Mart to open a 60-acre retail village in their hood.

But now, using sneaky strategies like "smaller stores and different formats" to get past "size-based regulations," Feingold explains that "Wal-Mart is making a really strong push after getting its comeuppance a few years ago."

The five members of the Walton family who own the mega-corporation sit in spots six through 10 on the Forbes' list of the richest Americans. They are each worth about $15 billion.

When the Waltons (or, rather, their real-estate minions) purchase a plot of land, they don't always open a supercenter: The Burbank property might also be rented to a bunch of smaller retailers, as the company is currently choosing to do in tinier, quirkier Malibu.

Either way, Burbank city government is playing helpless to the deal. Via the Burbank Leader:

Burbank officials say they have little to no control over the potential move. ...

Walmart would simply need to pull a few permits for a project to proceed, [Joy Forbes, Burbank deputy city manager] added. ... "They could use the whole site or break out the site with different tenant spaces," Forbes said. "We have no idea."

However, LAANE spokesman Feingold says that "city leaders can do a lot. But they have to have the political will to do it, and they have to have the pressure of their constituents."

That's where Burbankians come in. "SOMEONE NEEDS TO ORGANIZE A HUGE PROTEST!!!" writes Michael Mushammel on the "No Wal Mart" page.

Right. But before y'all go ramming giant tree trunks through castle doors, here's the LAANE handbook (beware of giant PDF -- but so worth it!) on "how communities can hold Walmart accountable," and a video about how Inglewood pushed the conglomerate out for good:

One more reason to join the fight: Wal-Mart is notoriously anti-union, known for lowering labor standards in the towns it conquers. (Whereas Costco, which is already located in Burbank's Empire Center, "is considered to be a high-road employer" with compensation packages almost double those of Wal-Mart, says Feingold.)

Is the blight on local economy worth a jumbo pack of unbeatably cheap toilet paper at midnight? Let us know, below.

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ra.roberts
ra.roberts

Aside from the "anti-small business argument," it's a shame that anyone would support a notoriously anti-union company that is not focused on high quality or well-made products! Contrary to the previous comments,...I do not have a single Burbank friend who supports Walmart or their business practices! If accepting cheap anti-union labor and products into our community is "modern business," we need to go "old-school!"

ra.roberts
ra.roberts

Aside from the "anti-small business argument," it's a shame that anyone would support a notoriously anti-union company that is not focused on high quality or well-made products! Contrary to the previous comments,...I do not have a single Burbank friend who supports Walmart or their business practices! If accepting cheap anti-union labor and products into our community is "modern business," we need to go "old-school!"

ashtonian54
ashtonian54

I'm fed up with the whole small business refrain that always pops up regarding this store.

Everyone I've spoken to wants the store in Burbank. This is the modern way of doing business.

This is not 1890 and these cute romanticized small businesses have had their time. This is the 21st century and retail now means high efficiency large stores.  So hurry up and open the store Walmart*

Tiffany
Tiffany

I live in a town bordering Burbank and I would so love to have a close Wal*Mart. Seriously, this could really help some people that need inexpensive goods and/or jobs. I can see why people wouldn't like it, but those are likely people that can afford to buy toilet paper at Whole Foods, which most people can't. This will only be a bad thing if we let it be.  

Walmart LOVE
Walmart LOVE

We LOVE & Want Walmart in Burbank ! I am A single parent & cant wait for Walmart to open !

Hi
Hi

I THINK BRING WAL-MART TO BURBANK IS A WONDERFUL IDEAL!  NOTHING WILL HURT OTHER COMPANY  LIKE TARGET,COSTCO, K=MART WHY DOESN'T PEOPLE JUST BE HAPPY LET THE STORY COME IN BUSINESS CITY OF BURBANK. WHEN I GO TO PALM SPRING ALL BUSINESS IS NEAR EACH OTHER LIKE WAL-MART,TARGET,LOWES, COSTCO,SAMS, HOME DEPOT OTHER DEPARTMENT STORE IS ON THE SAME LOT AND THEY STILL RUNNING IN BUSINESS. I THINK PEOPLE ARE AFRIAD MORE PEOPLE COME IN TOWN CITY OF BURBANK.

Lobojr
Lobojr

I am a believer in the free-enterprise system, and Sam Walton came up with a great idea to provide a lot of low cost merchandise in one big location. Most mom and pops have long ago closed shop in Burbank, and I can't think of one still in business that I believe would be impacted by Walmart opening, especially if they offer the inferior merchandise so many complain about.  If folks don't like the salary and benefits level offered, don't apply for a job there; Burbank is not a small town with no other jobs. There are no residential neighborhoods in the area of their site and I don't believe traffic to the Empire Center would be impacted very much. And most of, if Walmart is hated so much by so many, there shouldn't be enough customers for them to stay open long. I cannot conceive of any downside to a Walmart in that location.

Grandmasliltinkers
Grandmasliltinkers

A Wal-mart in Burbank would be a wonderful thing.  After all it will save weekly trips to Santa Clarita and in turn will safe gas, the environment, and help cut down on traffic on the I-5.  I know over 55 people who like me make this trip every week from the Burbank and adjacent LA area.  It will also bring a lot of needed jobs, especially in this economy.  As for the mom and pop shops, I really don't believe it will take away from them, as Wal-mart shopper such as myself never shop at mom and pop shops.  Whatever happened to America?  We have just as much right to have a Wal-mart in Burbank, as the mom and pops have their right to be in Burbank.  Everyone has a right to have the stores they want in their neighborhood and to be FREE to shop them. 

Jeremy
Jeremy

PLEASE bring walmart to Burbank!! I am tired of going to Panorama Mall location where they have nothing!!!

It would be great so my wife might get a job!!

Jek6
Jek6

Yes! finally! Don't buy into all that "evil Walmart" bunk. It's a good store,and most people I know that work or worked at one liked it. Unions are obsolete and now only serve to make businesses have to keep crappy employees that they could otherwise get rid of. And big deal, those Walton guys are rich. They should be, with what they created. Steve jobs was rich too, but everyone puts him up on a magic pedestal. I don't see anyone protesting Apple products for dominating it's market.

Dyana Aria
Dyana Aria

Thank you God!  I desperately need a walmart in Burbank.I don't care how many anti-walmart people are mad.

Robertking
Robertking

bob king walmart To Burbank good we need It more jobs,may be others will lower their pricesthat is what they are afraid of they want all the pie.

Dyana Aria
Dyana Aria

Thank you God!  I desperately need a walmart in Burbank.I don't care how many anti-walmart people are mad.

Rowth
Rowth

Love the idea !   Can't wait for a near by Walmart.  

Boymommy
Boymommy

To the argument that Walmart will drive out smaller businesses, I say this: those businesses will stay in business as long as they are offering something DIFFERENT and UNIQUE to what Walmart, Target, or any other super store is offering. I know there are things I can find at small boutiques that I can never find at a larger store, and for those things, i shop at boutiques. There is no reason for me to pay higher prices for the same products just because I have to shop at a smaller store. But I WILL shop at a smaller store if they are offering me a service or product that I can't find at Walmart. 

Adamsranch
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I saw another walmart protest, and have seen almost all of the protesters at Walmart. We need Jobs,Period. My husband lost his Job in July. He has been in the Dairy industry making 70 thousand per year, for over 20 years. Lowes was advertiseing for help,he applies and was turned down due to his age. They wanted a yong kid out of high schhool to grow with the company. Walmart hires the elderly, handy-cap people etc. The lady with the nursery should apply for the job tending the nursery at Walmart.Times have changed. This is not Mayberry. If Target doesn't want competition , they should lower their prices. Last time I was in Target, all the things I used to buy there were raised by a dollar or more.I left empt-handed. I am disabled with a Degenerative joint disease. Disability pays $1,363 dollars per month. We are a family of 5. My husband had to cash in his pension for us to pay the mortgage and since July it is 1/2 used up. Our house is worth two hundred thousand less than it was 5 years ago, yet 2 years in a row the government has voted against our usual pay raise, stating no inflation in 2 years.I worked and put in extra for disability insurance out of my checks. If I live to be 100 I will not get  close to using what my family has put in. My father was denied disability and died 3 weeks later at the age of 64. I believe that stress killed him. He was the friendliest guy I know, and would have made an outstanding Walmart greeter. Went to Target to look for an Item that said available in walmart stores only. I was sent to ask 5 different people what department to look in and never found the Item. 

Luvalugirl
Luvalugirl

Why not open a Whole Foods here?  This seems so much better than a Wally World!  They are notorius for the lowest of minimum wages, people can't live on that, and they are non-union, it's all about keeping down the low man on the pole!  They are owned by 5 people worth 15 BILLION EACH, yes EACH and they can't offer a living wage or affordable benefits on a reasonable time frame?  I say go somewhere else, that area needs NO MORE traffic, we are fine and dandy with what is currently there thank you.  I'll be out there protesting and shame on the city council for saying Oh Poor Us our hands are tied!  Well guess what, you council members have businesses here in Burbank and they offer Eye Care at Wally World.........for really cheap.....and banking, and flowers, and bakery goods.  If anyone can keep them out it's us hardcore Burbankians and the city council is wise to remember that we never forget, especially around election time!

MadMooby
MadMooby

I drive all the way to Santa Clarita's Wal Mart to do my grocery shopping......and I am sick of it!   I can only hope the WalMart they open at the Empire Center is a "Super" Wal Mart with the grocery store inside.  Otherwise, it's pointless.  And all you idiots who think it will spell the end of small business for you, you couldn't be more wrong.  I *already* don't shop at most of the stores there....it's just too expensive and really, how many "vintage" clothing stores do we need????

Alethea Mesadieu
Alethea Mesadieu

 What wrong with you haters of Walmart? This company is a job creator.Do you realize we are in down economy and many people need jobs NOW. Idon't see any other corporations coming to Burbank to create jobs.

Briar
Briar

My husband worked for Ralphs Super market started at lower pay than Walmart and no insurance for himself one year, family three years yet he paid UNION DUES. Moved to Walmart paid 1.25 more an hour and insurance in 60 days. Walmart picks up the insurance costs with us paying partial. Between our insurance and union dues at Ralphs, our costs were higher. People make statements without knowing full details. In our economy we need jobs, our these protesters in the position to create those jobs. Is Target, Costco, K-Mart and Lowes willing to add more people to their payrolls to increase jobs. I think not... or they would have already done it. Supporting union workers is fine but other people are hurting also. Unions push costs higher and higher for companies which is hurting the rest of us by pushing up product costs etc. Why shouldn't people have a place to shop in Burbank where costs are lower? All the markets in Burbank are Union run, its time for the monopoly to end.

Cas2096
Cas2096

Its about dam* time. I am sick and tired going 20 miles to a walmart when there's 1 in my backyard. let's get a new council. it's a new era and a new economy. if the council people don't want to revenue go into burbank, then allowing burbank to go bankrupt. What are the council people afraid of. it will create lots of jobs.

Guestemail
Guestemail

I say yes to a Walmart! The only people who don't want Walmart are just some small business owners. These same hypocrites will eventually be shopping at Walmart and enjoying the benefits of the lowest prices in the city. GO WALMART!

Evelyn M.
Evelyn M.

I live in Burbank, the idea of a Walmart here is 50-50 to me. It will be good because Target, Ralphs & other stores around are seriously overpriced. On the other hand, traffic is going to be horrible, among other things with the increase of customers on the Empire Mall.I would be really happy if they would open a store in Sunland or North Hollywood, that would still be really close to us.

Annish
Annish

It really comes down to two things; 1. Burbank wants and can use the tax revenue of a Walmart and 2. the will of the people to keep Walmart out.  Keep in mind that even if Burbankians refused to shop there, it will pull people from 10 to 15 miles away, since the closest Walmarts are Porter Ranch and Panorama City.  Those people do not have any loyalty to Burbank.  The traffic caused by the Empire center will be increased incrementally with a Walmart.  That along with the 217 unit apartment complex at Buena Vista and Empire (think 436 cars entering and exiting every day at a crucial intersection) will create further traffic delays during peak hours.

julie b
julie b

The last thing that Burbank or any place needs is a Wal-Mart. They are one of the most unethical companies around. The reason their items are so cheap is because they pay pennies to the worker's in overseas sweatshops under unconscionable conditions and they pay employees in this country wages so low that many have to get their health care through social programs like Medicaid. All the while they are raking in billions in profit. In 2010, they spent $6.1 million in lobbying alone to get away with these practices.

They have a long history of lawsuits against them, including discrimination (race and gender), employee mistreatment, unpaid wages, dumping hazardous materials (IN CALIFORNIA no less) and selling toxic products. This is not "leftist", this is fact and a matter of public record. If you don't have time to do all of the research, please take a few hours out of your life to watch "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price". It is available on Netflix Watch Instantly (streaming) and they have a free 30 day trial if you are not a member.

I really hope that people will try to enlighten themselves on the true effects that Wal-Mart has on communities. If you know anyone who is not able to earn a living wage, or who's manufacturing or back office job was shipped overseas, or who has been discriminated against because of race or gender, or who was forced to work "off the clock", then I implore you to please stand up for them and what is right.

Supporting the company who's ideals are partially responsible for job loss, low wages and people not being able to afford to shop anywhere else is such backwards logic and honestly very defeatist. I think Burbank deserve much better.

Alucard
Alucard

They you shoudl look at Disney! Walmart is princess to Disney,

Brattychik
Brattychik

i have been praying for a walmart in burbank i always run out of food in cuz i only shop once a month  for groceries because santa clarita is so far  and i do not make enough to pay high prices when i could pay less at walmart!!!!

jm
jm

Wake up people of Burbank.  I have watched this city grow for over 50 years and everyone that complained about ANY growth and development is now running to the BANK to count their monies as property values and JOBS are at an all time high in the city.jm

Bohhoo
Bohhoo

Are you kidding me.......Yeehaw...Walmart in Burbank.......Open soon.......as fast as you can...Don't let these ridiculous leftist socialist stop you.....

Another Sam
Another Sam

Yay Walmart! I'd love them to come to Burbank. I am a disabled person living on a very tight income. I drive right past 4 (overpriced) targets to get to Walmart in Duarte. They makes it possible for me to afford the household necessities I wouldn't otherwise be able to buy. With Target gobbling up every vacant store that opens up (6 that I know of between Glendale and Duarte, which is about a 20-mile radius), I don't understand why Target isn't "running out the small businesses", which is what everyone likes to complain about, and Walmart is. And speaking of small businesses; if someone could point me to one that sells affordable laundry soap and other cleaning supplies, bathroom tissue, food for my dog and cats, toiletries, medicine, groceries, etc, I'd be happy to patronize it. They just don't exist!

Kate
Kate

NO NO NO NO NO.

Itsitwo
Itsitwo

You are rediculous for not wanting progress in Burbank.  It will still remain a small town atmosphere.  If you want to complain about crowds go to PORTO's where it takes over30 minutes to get coffee and a breakfast roll.

J Brown
J Brown

Walmart does not equal progress. Are you serious with that comment?

Turtle5150
Turtle5150

Any other buisness that opens up here will bring jobs. It does not necessarily have to be a Wal-Mart!! It clearly is a HUGE building, so not sure what can take the place of The Great Indoors size wise to fill that space. How about a Whole Foods? or another CVS (because Burbank surley doesnt have enough of them) -Joking aside For those of you who drive numerous miles to the nearest WM, are you really saving that much money (with gas) for the SAME product?  Santa Clarita, Northridge and Porter-Ranch are all citie twice to 3 times the size of Burbank. Traffic near the Costco is horrendous I cant image what chaos would arise from a WM going in.

Grandmasliltinkers
Grandmasliltinkers

Yes.  I save over $100.00 per week shopping at Wal-mart!!!

Tim Scarne
Tim Scarne

Have you ever been to Burbank? We have so many wonderful unique stores with a warm a friendly appeal. Money isn't everything. 

Gigle
Gigle

I think bringing Wal-mart to Burbank is a great idea. More jobs less driving for us to get what we need. If super store good price on fruit and vegs. Should bring prices down at Vons etc. If gas station we get great price on fuel.  I think a win win.

Dibetmorris
Dibetmorris

DianaI think bringing Wal-mart to Burbank is a wonderful idea! because up in Santa Clarita they have Costco, Sams, Wal-mart's, Target, K-mart and their not hurting, so why doesn't people just be happy, It's going to create jobs for a lot of people who are out of work, the location and the size of the building is perfect why are people so stingy; I am so tired of driving to Panorama City for great deals and with the gas prices the way they are, this will be a God send, Porter Ranch is an elite part of Northridge and they have a Wal-mart and it sure hasn't run down there community, I think everyone who is against this, Retail or not has petty jealousy! And is afraid of a little competition, can't anyone see the wonderful opportunity this will bring, and for Sam who wants’ one in Sunland, I say open up one their too!

mariah
mariah like.author.displayName 1 Like

people in burbank are afraid of more people out of town are coming into burbank thats why they dont want walmart to  open up. and fyi...they would have their employes already...if the walmart is opening the walmart associates are training as of now...so where is the "creating job" opportunities come to mind..-i work at the great indoors, and to be honest with you ...with the whole closing i've seen a whole new and different crowd come in to our store lately...and it is not pretty...those are the ones who are happy for walmart to come into town...bargain lovers with nasty attitudes +  we will c what happens, as of for me...i will move on to something better...but i can see traffic getting worse on the cross st of burbank blvd and victory place...its already bad enough...

julie b
julie b

Wal-Mart = Racism, sexism, inhumane sweatshops, and so much more. All in the name of greed.

Please watch this documentary. It is very eye opening:Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Pricehttp://www.netflix.com/Mo...

sam
sam

Please bring Walmart to Sunland Ca. We can handle it up here, we have no discount stores.

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