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Occupy L.A. Eviction: Is LAPD Restricting Coverage With Last-Minute 'Pool Media'?

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Will the final LAPD-Occupy standoff be photographed?
[Update, morning after: Awesomely, the "pool" reports turned into a sort of crowd-sourced feed; LA Weekly reporter Gene Maddaus says he received constant email updates throughout the night from news outlets with soldiers in the pool. So it seems the chosen ones didn't adhere to the LAPD's silly, unenforceable idea of how media should work at the eviction. As it should be. However, police did manage to force out all indie reporters/photogs from the park with threats of arrest, and Dakota Smith at the LA Daily News Tweeted this morning that "LAPD didn't want us interviewing protesters.... handful times we could talk to people."]

[Update: All "uncredentialed" media was moved out of the park as soon as arrests began, as promised. Big fat constitutionally questionable cherry on top: L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa issued a midnight press release with the eye-popping line, "During the park closure, a First Amendment area will remain open on the Spring Street City Hall steps." We couldn't make this stuff up.]

[Update: Predictably, though the LAPD instructed them not to, a few reporters in the pool are Tweeting anyway. Namely, NBC4's Antonio Castelan, who's posting amazing photos of LAPD-issued rubber gloves -- special for the media pool, "just in case we come across biohazardous materials" -- and the tree-sitter who still refuses to come down. Wonder how the LAPD thought they could enforce cellphone restrictions on a bunch of media-phites. As for the citizen pool: It seems only one brave ustreamer, OccupyLACivicEngagement, is still live within the "unlawful assembly." ]

[Update: Embedded media won't even be able to use their cellphones during the raid. Officer Karen Rayner at LAPD media relations says, "I think I heard somebody say they weren't allowed to use their cellphones or Tweet or anything like that." And KNX news radio confirms to the LA Weekly that their reporter at the scene has been "embargoed" from leaking information until the eviction is over. Scary stuff. Click here for more Weekly coverage through the night.]

[Update: For live video of the Occupy L.A. eviction, we recommend these ustreams: Occupy Oakland Live, CrossXBones and OccupyFreedomLA. Almost 1,000 cops are expected to show up by bus once the park officially closes at 10:30 p.m.]

Updated at the bottom with a full list of the chosen news outlets. Also: If the LAPD doesn't lift media restrictions, the ACLU plans to file an injunction against them.

Creating limited media pools at high-profile, heavily policed events isn't an uncommon practice at the Los Angeles Police Department.

"When we don't have resources to accomodate every single outlet that wants to be there, we often do that," says Officer Karen Rayner in the media-relations office.

But a last-minute email to the LAPD's press list last night -- saying "any outlet interested in being considered for the [Occupy L.A. eviction] pool must have a representative attend this meeting, no exceptions" -- has raised some concerns among smaller-time reporters covering Occupy L.A.

(And in the case of Occupy Wall Street, the bloggers and freelancers are often the only ones getting the story right.)

We've contacted Lieutenant Andy Neiman, who heads media relations, for a full list of this year's "pool media" events. But they're usually big trials like Dr. Conrad Murray's or O.J. Simpson's, and other scenes where the police might have trouble keeping crowds at bay.

The pending Occupy L.A. eviction is a trickier beast. Police in other cities are under close scrutiny for their individual treatment of occupiers, and though the LAPD has proven a gentle giant so far (at the mayor's bidding, no doubt), their precise actions at the upcoming eviction are of great importance to Occupy Wall Street observers all over the world.

"At some time in the future, whenever they decide to shut down the park -- once it's declared an unlawful assembly -- only the 'pool' people are going to be allowed in there," says Rayner.

Neiman's "pool media" email was sent to select media outlets (not including the LA Weekly, strangely) around 5:30 p.m. on Monday evening. The notification went up on the City News Service wire (which not all outlets subscribe to) at about 6 p.m. The meeting began at 7:15 p.m.

Frustrated blogger/reporter Ruth Fowler quotes the following from an anonymous attendee of the meeting:

"They were only going to let in one media outlet for each medium (print, tv and radio) but we convinced them to let in three....the only media eligible for pool were those who were on the LAPD press release list and able to get to headquarters with an hours notice. So very few were represented at the meeting. I asked about independent radio/blogs and they said that only media with LAPD-issued badges would be allowed in the vicinity. I asked about those already at the camp and they said after the unlawful assembly order everyone who doesn't leave will be arrested, even those who are journalists. Our attorney was looking into whether there were legal challenges to be made."

Rayner tells the LA Weekly: "You can send your concerns to pio@lapd.lacity.org, but at this point in time, it's kind of a moot point. It's too late."

So we ask what the perimeter will be -- how close we can get to the camp, come eviction time.

"That's the big question of the hour," says Rayner. "That's not going to be released until right before the event occurs."

So basically, reporters can be jailed if they find themselves within this yet-to-be-announced V.I.P. area. That's a sensitive subject, after numerous journos were strongarmed and jailed by NYPD during their raid of Zuccotti Park.

The LAPD-issued badges are another area of concern. As we noted during a tight L.A. City Council meeting on NFL stadium plans:

LAPD passes are issued only to crime reporters; on each personalized application, a journalist must either prove he's on the police beat or, essentially, lie about it, or the application will be denied. For a political writer to need to prove he's buddy-buddy with the LAPD in order to avoid dickish police hassling at a purely political meeting is childish, and reminiscent of Los Angeles' overly protective, V.I.P. approach to press regulations. Like the LAPD can somehow prevent the next Loughner by screening every journalist that comes within 15 feet of a precious local politician.

Now, it appears police are using this press badge, issued exclusively by themselves, to clear the premises for the swift cleanup they're planning. (Along with the shotgun "pool media" meeting last night and, coming up, an undisclosed eviction time/place.) It's engineered perfectly to keep up the pristine PR image that L.A. has maintained through this Occupy revolution.

Update No. 1: From the front page of today's Los Angeles Times:

The city's concern about its image was underscored Monday when police announced they would be allowing only a small group of print, television and radio journalists past police lines when the eviction is finally carried out. Police said the rules were to protect journalists from being harmed during the operation.

When they say "harmed," they're probably talking about the extensive injuries inflicted upon a couple of reporters by LAPD officers at the infamous May Day Melee in 2007 -- the same brutal police-protester clash that many believe prompted the department's delicate handling of Occupy.

And going back to 2000, the LAPD was widely criticized, and sued, for its handling of the crowd -- including indiscriminate rubber bullet-firing at member of the press -- outside the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles. Since then, they've been super cautious about stepping on reporters' toes, and sometimes require media to contain itself in safe areas.

Update No. 2: Mohammed Tajser, a bridge fellow at the ACLU of Southern California, tells the LA Weekly that the ACLU will call LAPD media relations this evening and ask them to open the eviction scene to all members of the media, including bloggers and indie types. If that doesn't work, the First Amendment org plans to "file something tomorrow morning -- a temporary injunction preventing [police] from doing the media pool and the press badge."

Unconfirmed reports say that ABC, NBC and the Associated Press are the video outlets allowed on scene. For print, the Los Angeles Times, the LA Daily News and Reuters have made it into the pool (again, unconfirmed). KFI radio reporter Steve Gregory says he was also approved.

Gregory said on air yesterday that pool elite will be outfitted in special protective clothing before the raid. They'll be notified an hour before police dive in, and won't be allowed to phone home with their juice until the eviction is over.

More bizarre still: Reporters in the pool will have to submit their entire "pool reports" to the wire (City News Service) before any news outlet can post an exclusive. This is supposed to make the LAPD's restrictive approach fair for all non-pool outlets -- but ironically just gives the brave embedded bloggers and rubberneckers on the sidewalk the clear advantage.

Meanwhile, any fool with a smartphone can stream the eviction to ustream or livestream or the like.

The whole thing smacks of L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa's obsession with having the Occupy experience turn out swimmingly in his harmonious kingdom -- and of City Hall and the LAPD's utter incomprehension of media in the 21st century.

Update No. 3: Here are your official media messengers, as selected by the LAPD.

Reporters
Dakota Smith, LA Daily News
Shelby Grad, Los Angeles Times
Steve Gorman, Reuters

Photographers
Rob St. John, Los Angeles Times
Sam Mircovich, Reuters
Tracy Gitnick, Associated Press

Television
FOX11
NBC4
ABC7
KPCC

Radio
Claudia Peschiuta Pete Demetriou, KNX 1070
Steve Gregory, KFI

Update No. 4: So KCAL9 was running an awesome aerial live stream of the massive deployment of 1,000-plus LAPD officers from Dodger Stadium to City Hall. But then -- get this -- they reportedly stopped the stream because they had "made an agreement with LAPD not to reveal their tactics," and wanted to protect the integrity of the operation.

Not that it matters. #OccupyLA is trending, over a dozen news trucks are lined up alongside the park (Occupy's own media representatives have embedded themselves in that lineup for safety) and countless reporters are Tweeting from the scene, including our own @dennisjromero. Stay tuned.

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Lan
Lan

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Lan
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Lan
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Lan
Lan

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Don
Don

I think it is funny that none of the so called leaders of the movement volunteer to get arrested.

Weather@ 5...6...7..10 &11
Weather@ 5...6...7..10 &11

"official media pool" = biased coverage. Just like"entrenched journalist's" = war is peace. Heard much about our 2ongoing wars lately? Can't trust the government. Can't trust the media taskedwith covering its operation and the effect it has upon the citizenry. What wasformally known as transparency is now merely a choreographed collaboration,vile in the most Orwellian connotation-- unless of course a "breakingnews" blow-job or an extramarital affair is involved.

Fid
Fid

I do not mean to be mean, but "Occupy" has about as much importance as a Victoria's Secret show without any of the obvious reasons to watch.  Few outside the media other than the city's gardeners cared at all--at all--about the soiled, cold, messageless, band of campers formerly crammed onto the lawn at city Hall. They would have been forgotten in days if not for the LA Times, which devoted ludicrous amounts of tender and breathless print in its "handout-status"  newspaper to everything Occupy.  The death of the euro, LA's deficit, etc. mean little to the Times in most years and less when there is a "real demonstartion" to cover. ("Hey, we missed out on  the 60's! Look! Its a protest!"). Don't kid yourselves: if you in the media had any self respect, you'd be offering big money to people to leak city/county memos at dark bars and covering some real news.  Its really not an issue of you didn't get to shove a camera in the face of some LAPD officer who is trying to do his/her job. 

kevin henson
kevin henson

Wow, you're really missing the biggest story in the world right now. It's not about any small group of kids in a particular area, it's about the fact that the national and international focus has been changed to focus on the misdeeds of Wall Street, the Big Banks, and their cronies in our Government. On Oct. 15th i joined over 20.000 people of all ages/races/classes who took to the streets to voice their outrage, with solidarity marches in over 1000 cities worldwide. On November 17th i joined 35,000 of my fellow New Yorkers to further voice our upset and the need to hold those white collar criminals accountable. We're in a terrible recession that most economists predict is headed for a "double dip". I have a great job, i work hard, and i'm outraged at what an elite few have done to this country. Soon enough, you'll be outraged too.

Bob
Bob

Ya, its an outrage that you borrowed their money, and now they want you to pay it back.  What a crime.  You are "really missing the biggest story in the world right now."  If you and all your scumbag friends would pay your debts and quit demanding government handouts, we might not be in a welfare state where it has effected the budget of every level of government.  When you forge your own way and educate yourself, you won't be at the mercy of others.

Cindi
Cindi

But it's OK for the banks and corps to blow thousands and thousands of my hard earned money.

You ARE missing the story---not that Occupy is the ONLY story, but the reasons people are getting in the streets are spot on.  How many years must we go without representatives representing us, how many years without recourse to life-and-death crimes of HMO's, how many years must we just stfu and sit down in the back of the bus like Rosa Parks should have done...is that your deal?  And as far as the media?  The biggest nuclear disaster of our time is unfolding across the ocean and there is NO NEWS ON IT.  The voting machines can be easily hacked, and in fact there's evidence coming out Bush may not have been elected even the second time..see King Lincoln Bronzeville vs. Blackwell in Ohio.  You, and lots of other people, are missing the story.  It's not about Occupy.  It's about CORRUPTION and a growing income gap and offshored jobs and Too Big To Fail. Which you support, right Bob? Too big to fail. Cause all that matters is big. If just a few people know about it you think they're wrong.

jaycee
jaycee

Whose money is it bob?  I thought most of the mortgage backed securities were bought by public pensions because the public pensions were the ones who were sold the lie of a AAA security.  Hey bob where is your buddy Joseph Cassano at?  You know Joseph Cassano don't you? 

The AIG Financial Products division head Joseph Cassano entered into credit default swaps to insure $441 billion worth of securities originally rated AAA. Of those securities, $57.8 billion were structured debt securities backed by subprime loans. CNN named Cassano as one of the "Ten Most Wanted: Culprits" of the 2008 financial collapse in the United States.

Didn't AIG get almost 200 billion to give out to the banks who purchased the swaps that your buddy Cassano didn't keep enough reserves to pay?  So who got a handout here exactly bob?

So bob how is it this person, your buddy Joseph Cassano, not in jail?

Anthony
Anthony

They told me things lik ethis would happen if I voted for McCain.  I wish now I had listened. Oh well, this is what LA gets for electing a far right wing republican mayor.

24AheadDotCom
24AheadDotCom

The "they told me if I voted for McCain" shtick was AFAIK started by Instapundit, a libertarian GOP hack and strong promoter of the teaparties. So, what we're looking at with this thread is Teapartiers vs. Occupiers: Genius vs. Genius on a truly Brawndo scale.

As one of my commenters said: "The OWSers have the right on their side. There IS a growing concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands. That wealth DOES buy the corruptible crooks in government. The alliance between the Wealthy and the Rulers DOES cheat the middle class. OWS has the moral high ground. And they're wasting it by acting like spoiled infants."

See that and what OWS would be doing if they weren't just as inept as the teapartiers here (remove the spaces around the dot):

24ahead . com/n/10862

24AheadDotCom
24AheadDotCom

The "they told me if I voted for McCain" shtick was AFAIK started by Instapundit, a libertarian GOP hack and strong promoter of the teaparties. So, what we're looking at with this thread is Teapartiers vs. Occupiers: Genius vs. Genius on a truly Brawndo scale.

As one of my commenters said: "The OWSers have the right on their side. There IS a growing concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands. That wealth DOES buy the corruptible crooks in government. The alliance between the Wealthy and the Rulers DOES cheat the middle class. OWS has the moral high ground. And they're wasting it by acting like spoiled infants."

See that and what OWS would be doing if they weren't just as inept as the teapartiers here:

24ahead.com/n/10862

Frawsty
Frawsty

I hate to blow up your ego balloon, but Antonio the ball-less mayor is a left wing liberal democrat (the same as the great failure Obama). Instead of the aimless protesting at City Hall, the Occupy camp could be campaigning to recall the mayor and the city council. Instead, three months from now, the Occupy movement will be completely forgotten.

Angel
Angel

The Occupy movement will only be forgotten by the apathetic.  I will forever be grateful for the movement with all its perceived flaws, and for the people who have braved inclement weather, ridicule, brutality and imprisonment.  I will not let their efforts go in vain, and will continue with the changes they have inspired me to make.  It is short-sighted to say that the Occupy movement has failed because it continues in the minds and hearts of many.  Although one day we may walk downtown and not see any evidence that the Occupiers were ever there, seeds have been planted and eyes have been opened.

Cindi
Cindi

"No cause"?  All the so-called news media does it make fun of the movement.  There was a really great, articulate, knowledgeable speaker on Fox 11, one Tony Valloza, who was peppered with condescension, insults and verbal cleverness designed to make him look stupid.  You can look it up on YT where his name is misspelled 'Baluza.' Mass media has done its very best to make Occupy look like what it is not.  That's what they do, it is a show.If they were about news, they'd be reporting on the biggest nuclear disaster of our time, unfolding right now. (A colleague said, "whoa, I thought that was over long ago!")So, since you apparently have too many of those entertainers' voices in your head right now, here's the aim: get the money out of politics and make the banks obey the law.

Frawsty
Frawsty

We are the 99%, the apathetic that will soon forget the Occupy movement. The last 1%, the soon to be forgotten, have planted their seeds (how long does pot need to grow before use), and have had their eyes opened (shiny new iPhones and iPads).

All sarcasm aside, I noticed you only replied about the movement, nothing about the corrupt mayor or city council. That is why the movement will be forgotten, after 3 months there is still no cause, no aim, and no goal. Only the news media will remember the movement, and with the upcoming Presidential election, they will soon forget it also.

Anthony
Anthony

You don't get sarcasm, do you. 

Frawsty
Frawsty

Yes I did, but took advantage to put across my point too.

Mark Bishton
Mark Bishton

We live in a police state all over america. As long as we are 'good' it doesn't look like a police state.When we go against the flow, though, then the state rears its real head (& helmet). Rules are made, laws are interpreted how they want with no oversight by our elected representatives.Where are they? Both parties are MIA and equally culpable for this 'state'!As the reporter opined, it is too late. All that can happen is people will get their heads cracked, eyes impaired, respiratory systems inflamed. Sure, investigations will happen, but they'll assign foxes to count the chickens, take forever to end them and no one will go to jail except the citizens.The game is over, the coup was quiet with money being the ammunition of the traitors who now reign. It's time to cut your hair, change your dress and blend in to the masses. Like a herd of sheep the only safety is in the identical looks and numbers outside of your position. Of course this may be weathered in a sense underground.

ACME Sales Rep.
ACME Sales Rep.

You have the most powerful and most well-equipped military in the world, and you're worried about foreign invasion? Do you even realize how many countries are between the US and South America? Good lord…

Javier Garcia
Javier Garcia

We can go as refugees to Mart, after all Robert is finishing their mission soon and they found water there. The other thing, if this country it is not working is because we have many people getting salary at the state level, County and city representing a bureaucratic system for the fact that anybody like to take responsibility and do what is right to do as referees working for the government. I was calling the Justices Department a few days ago and everybody picking the phone Afro. They can not help in anything! So, why we are paying money for that people? The same thing with the Pennsylvania Human Relation Commission here in my State. It is a shame live in this country! Republicans they are not Republicans and Democrats they are not Democrats! The best people working are the dogs working for the Police Department at any State.

Levi Manners
Levi Manners

 There's the Media, and than there's the Truth

1429523
1429523

So get arrested. Force their hand. It's not a serious arrest, and arresting journos is terrible press for the city. The press should be allowed in there, but they should also do their jobs and be willing to stand up for something and be arrested for it.

StevelImages
StevelImages

It's outrageous. A recent federal appeals court ruled that the First Amendment freedom of the press applies equally to citizens with cellphones as it does to credentialed reporters. Sounds like LAPD has taken a page from the "embedded" media of the Iraq war. Control the press and you control the story. I do hope ACLU sues their ass off for this. 

Cindi
Cindi

Yeah, still waiting on the ACLU for that.  Esp. as some of the stories coming out of those arrests and detentions are horrific.  OccupyLA.org is where you can actually read about what happened....sadly not even the Weekly is reporting the worst stuff, and their piece in this week's print edition, which I was very curious to see, is nothing but fluff.

Enigmaticang3l
Enigmaticang3l

In most legal meetings, even in HOAs, there must be reasonable advance notice. This obviously is not the case; so therefore impends upon the inclusion of others. If not a procedural error, it is certainly a civil rights issue, as it smacks of discrimination. It seems there is plenty in this act alone to enforce an injunction against it. Unless, of courses, laws only exist for the protection of the 1%.

Bob
Bob

There was and still is legal notice.  The park closes at 10:30, kids. Always has.  Look it up.  Just because you have a "cause" you should be allowed to break the rules? You shouldn't dismiss a municipal code which has been in place for years just becasue you want a pow-wow in the park without giving the city government proper notice (permit).  And if you belong to a HOA, you are a sucker and probably don't realize that you are inviting everyone to bend you over.

jaycee
jaycee

I work the night shift and can only use the park after 10:30pm because of having to sleep during the day.  Am I not being discriminated against for working a night shift?

Weather@5...6...7...10 & 11
Weather@5...6...7...10 & 11

Exactly. The real reason they close parks and beaches and the like is because they do not trust people to act responsibly without constant babysitting by LE, park rangers, etc., and they do not want to fund that babysitting effort. There was a time not too long in the past when you could actually go to the beach and take a midnight stroll, or fish from the shoreline, or have a starlit night beside a warming fire. We called it freedom. But too many people abused this human right to freely congregate and to socialize...left trash...became rowdy...vandalized...drew attention to themselves-- and so we all lost that freedom. At least I am old enough to have once enjoyed these basic freedoms, and I am also old enough to lament their loss.

Alexandria Ramirez
Alexandria Ramirez

The first amendment is dead in America. They are dismantling the constitution right before our eyes, they are attempting to pass legislation on Wednesday that will in effect give power to this and all future presidents to use military force on the American People. The FEMA camps are already built and the coffins are all laid out for us. (Google it, it's true.) I am so furious I could spit.

Alagash
Alagash

And yet, they wont use military force to shut down the border allowing our borders to be invaded by Mexico and all S. American countries..... :(

Weather@ 5...6...7..10 &11
Weather@ 5...6...7..10 &11

Because they want to dilute American citizens' already limited power by undermining them with people less inclined to express dissent and who are cautious about voicing opposing opinions, if any opinions at all. Feed me. House Me. Educate me. Provide me with free health care. Don't arrest me. Don't impound my vehicle. And I will dutifully shut up and be exploited, have many "American" children who will vote for you, and then we can both exploit others and get ahead-- each in our own way.

SecretSquirrel
SecretSquirrel

You are right; yet, business is as usual. Please help get the word out. Write your senators. Start a petition. A few signatures are better than none. Most people think this won't affect them, and when it does, they will be just as shocked as I and others have been to discover its continual misuse by crooked crops attempting to promote themselves and their wealth. A common practice in some VA counties is to steal unsuspecting citizen's homes.

Guest
Guest

Get up on the roof of one of the surrounding buildings with a bionic ear and a telephoto lens. Seems the best option to me.

Ernesto
Ernesto

  the whole world will be watching either way! it is just nice to have reporters there documenting from different point of views. 

Ernesto
Ernesto

PS i sure dont trust what fux news cnn nbc report.

Patti Beers
Patti Beers

Occupy LA Eviction Block Party - please click join or maybe and then invite all of your friends! Without media we need you there with your eyes, your cell phone camera, and your video phone! http://www.facebook.com/events...

Robert
Robert

 Dennis don't you trust your other media colleagues to cover the story right? On a lot of other blogs people are saying its the media that has incited a lot of the diaster and mayhem from Occupy LA.  When people see cameras and photographers taking pictures of them, they start behaving badly and more aggressive.  Look at who's left,  the radicals wearing the scarfs.  People have had emough and want their police officers back in their communities where they belong.  Let's face it a lot of the journalists got in the way at other incidents just to get their dumb story and failed to abide by the rules.  Gee, imagine that!!

Sharon Flanagan
Sharon Flanagan

Those who are left are those committed to peaceful civil disobedience.  They are trained and know what they are doing.  They are in scarves to protect against retaliation by those who don't understand.  They also use the scarves in preparation for chemical interventions.  

My view to journalists who want to be on scene:  Walk in and join the occupation.  What a great story!  From the inside.. including jail.

I agree keeping down the media keeps down the circus atmosphere but, hopefully, the live bloggers will be allowed to continue.  They do an excellent job of giving us a non-biased view.

Solidarity!

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