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Same Sex Marriage Ban Can be Defended by Religious Nuts, State Supreme Court Rules

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Updated at the bottom with California Attorney General Kamala Harris rooting for LGBT rights. First posted at 11:02 a.m.

The battle over the legality of Prop. 8, the state voter initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage, continued on its epic way today as the California Supreme Court ruled that yes, bigots could defend the law.

You see, after religious conservatives threw all the money they could at the initiative and got it passed, it was challenged as unconstitutional. And then the state, namely then-Attorney General Jerry Brown, who would be in the position of defending the laws of this particular land, said he wouldn't defend it.

What then? The religious nuts said they would defend it on their own. But ...

... did they have legal "standing" to do so. After all, it's not their law now. It belongs to the state of California.

The court today said yes, they can take up the defense of the public's rule even if the state wouldn't defend it (PDF of the ruling). A statement from the court says:

The court observed that the procedural question of an official initiative proponent's standing to defend the initiative's validity when public officials decline to do so does not depend "on the substance of the particular initiative measure at issue, but rather on the purpose and integrity of the initiative process itself."

In other words, the judges held their noses over the content of the case. The ruling says:

... The voters who have successfully adopted an initiative measure may reasonably harbor a legitimate concern that the public officials who ordinarily defend a challenged state law in court may not, in the case of an initiative measure, always undertake such a defense with vigor or with the objectives and interests of those voters paramount in mind. As a consequence, California courts have routinely permitted the official proponents of an initiative to intervene or appear as real parties in interest to defend a challenged voter-approved initiative measure 'to guard the people's right to exercise initiative power.'

The Los Angeles Times notes that the move today " ... sets the stage for action in federal courts -- which could go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court ..."

Fun for the whole family. Except, of course, if your family includes two mommies or two daddies.

Lambda Legal legal director Jon Davidson said that while the Golden State's highest court said these fanatics can defend the law here, it remains to be seen whether than can do so as the case goes inevitably federal:

Today's ruling also does not settle the question as to whether Prop 8 proponents have standing in federal court. It remains up to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit to decide whether or not the U.S. Constitution allows initiative proponents to defend a challenge to the measure the proponents supported when elected state officials don't. We think the U.S. Supreme Court has made clear that they don't.

... While a disappointing ruling, this case is now back in federal court, where we expect a quick victory.

[Update]: California Attorney General Kamala Harris is rooting for same-sex-marriage-rights advocates. Her statement:

While the Department of Justice argued the Proposition 8 proponents do not have standing to pursue this appeal, the court has ruled otherwise. This ruling now shifts the litigation to the federal court of appeals. I firmly believe that Proposition 8 violates the equal protection and due process clauses of the U.S. Constitution and am confident that justice will prevail.

[@dennisjromero/djromero@laweekly.com/@LAWeeklyNews]

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Dianasc2440
Dianasc2440

The Yes on Prop 8 side is going to win.  Marriage is between a man and a woman.  The Yes on Porp 8 man is openly straight.  The Yes on Prop 8 side can prove that you cannot marry an AKA!  The real winner will be JB and not Jerry Brown. 

Artgum44
Artgum44

Without even reading the article, the title gives away its partisan appeal. It could also be rephrased as "Supreme Court Rules That Common Citizens Can Defend Against State Recognition of Sodomite Unions"

ageofknowledge
ageofknowledge

I'm against the homosexual takover of the institution of marriage and the homosexual indoctrination of children in the modern liberal public indoctrination system for very good reasons and I am not a religious nut.

This article is nothing more than a smear campaign against non-atheists to push the homosexual agenda upon the populace.

Bill_hoax
Bill_hoax

Is this a news article or a blog?

Jimbob133346
Jimbob133346

The bigoted piece of shit that wrote this trash should be dragged out into the street, stripped to his panties, publicly horse whipped, kicked to the county line and gaureenteed that if he ever showed his face around decent human beings again he would have a cap put into his brains. There is no room in decent society for sub human filth like this 

Theweeston
Theweeston

You're right. The people that wrote Prop 8 should have all of that done to them.

Frawsty
Frawsty

Sorry Dennis, but I know gay people that are very religious also, too bad you just disrespected them. It would also be nice if you wouldn't leave out important facts like that the State Supreme Court (made up of both liberals and conservatives) voted on this unanimously in one direction. The ruling wasn't really about gay marriage, it was about the fact that citizens (even gay citizens) can take up the defense of a public rule even when the state refuses to defend it. Nice try though, maybe someday you will be a new reporter.

Chuckus Ruckus
Chuckus Ruckus

You just pointed out the fatal flaw of "democracy" where the mob rules. Sometimes your mob gets the sh*t end of the stick. When we start thinking of folks as individuals instead of privileged groups then this idiocy will go away.  And why the hell is the govt in the marriage business anyway?  Call them all (gay, straight, bi, whatever) civil unions - problem solved. 

BonnyBrown
BonnyBrown

Nice partisan garbage you've got there.  Anyway, this is a win for democracy, anyone who would deny others access to the judiciary to defend propositions and allow politicians to decide constitutionality on the fly with what amounts to a veto is an idiot, end of story.

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