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Women Beat Their Men? L.A. Guys' Group Mad at Verizon Ads Says That's The Flip-Side of The Story

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Quick question: In a hetersexual relationship, who's more likely to use violence -- the man or the woman?

Research seems to show that both are equally as likely to be the victims of domestic violence, though it appears women are more likely to get hurt and men are less likely to report it if they are attacked. One group even claims that women are the bigger perpetrator.

And that organization, the National Coalition For Men's Los Angeles chapter, is angry that Verizon is characterizing the members of the male species as the only bad guy in relationships:

On Saturday at 2 p.m. the coalition will stage a protest (PDF) against the wireless carrier at its Santa Monica location (2530 Wilshire Blvd.).


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They don't like a series of spots unveiled in fall by the Verizon Foundation and the National Domestic Violence Hotline that depicts the father of a home as an ogre.

It calls them "anti-father ads that depict all domestic violence as committed by men and fathers against women ..." The group says the spots leave "male victims and their children invisible as usual."

The group calls them "sexist" spots and has asked Verizon to drop them (to no avail).

The coalition even once successfully sued the state of California, it says, to ensure that statutory, anti-domestic violence funds are equally targeted at male victims.

These guys blame political correctness for the widespread view of the spouse-beater as a dude:

When children witness either parent hit the other, regardless of how severe or minor, it becomes a model for them to follow. Domestic violence is an intergenerational cycle, and we'll never stop that cycle without being honest about it rather than covering up half of it out of political correctness.

Because guys never any commit crimes.

[@dennisjromero/djromero@laweekly.com/@LAWeeklyNews]


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Donne
Donne

women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered.

Justin
Justin

I have been struck with a nightmare of a situation because of my ex-girlfriend hitting herself in the face and claiming that I "punched" her.

My ex-girlfriend has set me up with a false allegation of Domestic Violence, and now abducted my son.  My ex hit herself in the face and I called the Police.  The Police then arrived and ended up arresting me because she stated that I punched her in the face in one story, and I slapped her in the face in another story.  I have not seen my son in one month and I am now having to battle a criminal charge of Domestic Violence and a custody, visitation, and child support battle regarding my son.

On top of all of this, she has also filed a restraining order keeping me from my son, stating that I physically "hurt" him, which is also a lie.

Because of this I was restrained from my residence for two weeks and I have spent $15,000 in attorneys and bail in that same small amount of time.

If anyone has any advice or resources please reply to this post.  Thank you.

Thatguyiswatchingyou
Thatguyiswatchingyou

You can mock the MRM all you want but if LAweekly were to engage in the same sort of misandrist propaganda you would get lit up the same way Verizon did.  The MRM is not a laughing matter. We are quite serious and will not tolerate any B.S anti male propaganda. Get used to our presence for we will be here for years to come.

AreYouKiddingMe
AreYouKiddingMe

This biased thinking is disgusting, even SAVE is ousting this crap ad for the sexist pile that it is.  "Because guys never commit crimes"  how about we just switch that to "because women never commit crimes", both are absolutely laughable, they are both human beings and HUMAN BEINGS are capable of doing horrible things regardless of what is between your legs.  Violence is a people issue and as long as we keep trying to use this gender issues crap as a base we will only pass feel good laws that regulate morality and behavior to such finite points that it makes the idea of calling the US or Canada free countries a joke, this is only going to get worse if we keep going the direction we are.A personal example, I used to live in the basement of a couple with a kid.  The guy was not the kids father, she left him.  She claimed he was an abusive asshole, however in my months of living there I was physically assualted by her on multiple occasions, I got smacked in the back of the head for leaving the seat up once..... revorse roll and see what the public reaction is.  She belittle her boyfriend in front of their friends, making fun of his penis size and functionality all the time, guilt tripping her kid to the point of tears for just wanting to talk to her dad (she actually said if you loved me you wouldnt do this to me).  Yeah, women are all flowers, spices n everything nice..... *rolls eyes*

Guest
Guest

BREAKING NEWS!

Verizon listened and removed the video!

AvgGuy101
AvgGuy101

"Because guys never any commit crimes." 

In addition to having obvious issues with basic grammar, the author of this "report" must  have some problems with reading comprehension.  Of all of the complaints that I have seen about this ad campaign, I have not seen one that suggests that men never commit crimes.  Meanwhile, those who defend Verizon and this ad certainly seem to feel that women never abuse men.  

"Women beat their men?"   

Why don't you check out the videos and news accounts for Lisa Alyounes and her recent arrest and then get back to us on that?  You shouldn't have any trouble finding her, she seems to be quite popular on youtube.

Martin
Martin

A very badly written article by a very bad 'journalist'. Verizon is indeed trying to get cheap publicity by pretending to be concerned about abuse. It is clear that Verizon has no knowlege or interest in the subject and their ads are almost as bad as carrying out abuse themselves as they are spreading mis-information. The actions of the National Coalition For Men should be applauded and supported by intelligent people everywhere.

B.A.
B.A.

Does the LA Weekly actually pay this apparent high school freshman to write for them? Perhaps his principle should check his locker for drugs, as he must have been under some narcotic influence to have missed the very first sentence of the National Coalition for Men which mentioned either parent. How else could he follow the quote up with his juvenile attempt at sarcasm at the end? 

I'm thinking that either Dennis and the editor need to quit hitting the crack pipe, or else LA Weekly thinks that their reading audience is too stupid to catch an obvious deception. 

Dude
Dude

Right ... men are the only ones who do domestic violence. Bullshit ... see the video below and tell me who is being violent?http://youtu.be/OBZwDjocX14

ghebert
ghebert

The general consensus of society is "Never hit a woman under any circumstances, she is equal to a man yet must be given special treatment VS Oh look on the news, a man got his penis cut off by his wife, let's all laugh at his suffering." Maybe if the general population considered men as human beings too and acknowledged the fact that both men and women suffer from DV, rape and other abuses then maybe we would be living in a slightly less f'ed up world.

girlwriteswhat
girlwriteswhat

Take a step outside your sexism to wonder how children of abusive women (mothers abuse and kill their children more often than fathers) feel when all they ever see is depictions of male batterers and female victims? 

Invisible, maybe? Ignored? Abandoned? Denied help? Isolated? 

Congratulations, Verizon. You've just helped further entrench a cultural consciousness that makes children of abusive moms both the least likely child victims to ever report, and less likely to be believed when they do. Assholes.

Ministry of Truth
Ministry of Truth

For many years I thought that people bashed and discriminated against males because they were uninformed of the facts.I'm coming to realize they literally do not think that men deserve human rights.

Which is especially disturbing when it comes from an alleged man like our friend Dennis here.

Ministry of Truth
Ministry of Truth

DoublePlusGood Report Citizen Dennis! Male nonpersons do not deserve to have an opinion without getting attacked by good Party members such as yourself.

Your choco-ration shall be doubled as reward! Love your Big Sister.

MaleMatters
MaleMatters

If women, without provocation, batter and kill children, whom they've supposedly been socialized to love, they can, without provocation, batter and kill men, whom they've been socialized -- by the media, feminist literature, and VAWA-type legislation -- to distrust, fear, and hate.

The more women are fully integrated into the world of work, the more Verizon-type feminists try to keep men out of the world of children.

Is this the "equality" many feminists are trying to achieve?"The Doctrinaire IWPR" at http://battlinbog.blog-city.co...

Mom
Mom

It's not only men or mens' groups that oppose such horrid bias. Any fair-minded person, of any gender or race, objects to discrimination, bias and stereotyping. This is disgusting beyond words. To test this, replace 'man' with 'black person', and try it out. Sound OK to you?

Marc A
Marc A

Anything coming from the Department of Justice (the link provided in this blog) is unreliable because it focuses on "crime," and both men and women are less likely to consider it a "crime" when it's female-on-male than the reverse.

By contrast, non-crime based empirical research consistently shows "women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners," as California State University Professor Martin Fiebert shows in his online bibliography at http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert...  For example, a 32-nation study by the University of New Hampshire found women are as violent and controlling as men in dating relationships worldwide.    http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/...Here is the study in full.  http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/...   The Centers for Disease Control recently funded a major study of heterosexual relationships throughout the U.S. and found: "Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent.  In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases," and both sexes suffered significant injuries.  http://www.ajph.org/cgi/conten...    The same study also found: "More women than men (25% versus 11%) were responsible. In fact, 71 percent of the instigators in nonreciprocal partner violence were women" and "while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships with reciprocal violence it was the men who were injured more often (25% of the time) than were women (20% of the time)."  http://pn.psychiatryonline.org... any violence based on severity is hypocritical, because the real problem is when children witness it - at any level - and it becomes a model for them to follow as adults.  That makes it an intergenerational cycle which cannot be broken unless the problem is address honestly and comprehensively.  Downplaying any violence based on severity is hypocritical, because the real problem is when children witness it - at any level - and it becomes a model for them to follow as adults.  That makes it an intergenerational cycle which cannot be broken unless the problem is address honestly and comprehensively. 

Marc A
Marc A

What is "Because guys never any commit crimes" supposed to mean?  NCFM never claimed guys never commit crimes.  They just get higher sentences for it than women do, and they're stigmatized and denies services when they're victims of domestic violence. 

b s
b s

Careful, that line is just a diversionary tactic to get people sidetracked. The issue at hand is that this article is just another symptom of the problem at hand, that people think it's perfectly acceptable to minimize men's opinions, their feelings, and if the facts don't match up with their preconceptions then they'll just ignore them outright. 

Thorshammer1348@gmail.com
Thorshammer1348@gmail.com

Women can be just abusive as men, I'veseen women slap they're boyfriends in stores only to get a few chuckles out of by-standers,Either way; IT HAS NO PLACE,ESPECIALY IN FRONT OF LITTLE CHILDREN !

Towelie
Towelie

It's common knowledge that women are far more abusive than men.

Ask any of the security at a bar or restaurant.

b s
b s

Or read any of the literature on the subject that doesn't come out of a feminist think tank. Can you say "biased"? AAUW et al are to be avoided on any matters of gender policy & statistics. 

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