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Angela Davis Says Black People Have a Responsibility to Support the DREAM Act

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Angela Davis, former Black Panther, is the go-to commentator on any protest or political uprising these days. (And, apparently, the go-to stencil for "street artists" designing nostalgic protest fliers.)

So why hasn't anyone asked her how she feels about the DREAM Act -- the national push to grant undocumented students and soldiers their citizenship, and one of the greatest civil-rights fights of the 21st century?

Maybe because...

... as interviewer Derek Washington noted in a recent sit-down with Davis, there's somewhat of a disconnect between the black struggle for equality and that of Latinos.

Washington said a lot of black people feel like, "That's not my fight."

We've observed some resentment among local black leaders toward Latinos who come to California to find work. Long Beach City Council candidate Robert Wideman, a top supporter of the Republican push to repeal our in-state DREAM Act, recently called the Latino influx an "invasion."

Here was his rationale: "While Americans are suffering from this invasion, blacks are suffering the most. It's an atrocity. ... Take a 22-year-old going into college, trying to get an education for himself. He's trying to get a job at McDonalds, at Burger King, and there are more Latinos working there than anyone else. The Latinos are taking over the job market."

Of course, Wideman is an extreme example -- but perhaps he's just saying openly what many are thinking in the back of their minds.

Davis doesn't see it that way. Here are her words on the importance of fighting for the DREAM Act, from the "Citizens for Immigrants" interview:

"It's important because it represents one of the most important arenas in the ongoing struggle for civil rights in this country, and particularly those of us who have a history of struggling for civil rights -- I'm speaking very specifically about the African-American community."
"It is a cause that black people should embrace. One of the things that we need to remember is that the victories that have been won in the struggle for black freedom never would have been possible if only black people were the ones who were active in those struggles. ... I know my case would not have been won, as it was, had not it been for the activism of the Chicano community in San Jose when I was tried on charges of ... conspiracy. In San Jose, there was a very minuscule black community there at that time. And it was in the Chicano community that the major organizing took place."
"I don't understand how people can assume that its possible for each racialized ethnic group to go it alone."
"As people who have benefited from these freedom struggles, it is our responsibility to continue justice as Martin Luther King, Jr. pointed out is indivisible, and justice for black people must be used on behalf of justice for Latinos, and justice for immigrants, and justice for undocumented immigrants."

After the recent John and Ken suspension at KFI radio (the shock jocks called Whitney Houston a "crack ho"), the head of the National Hispanic Media Coalition observed that "the African-American community has got a history of civil-rights action, a strong one. ... White America is much more sensitive to African-Americans than they are to anyone else."

What do you think? Does that give blacks the responsibility to fight for the latest minority (quickly turning majority in places like Los Angeles) to be spat on by America?

[@simone_electra / swilson@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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No Dream Act!
No Dream Act!

You Must Be Crazy. Give Me Your Source So I Can Read It For Myself. How Can Under The Table Money Be Tracked. They Are A Drain On America And I've Had Enough.

No Dream ACT !
No Dream ACT !

YEAH! KICK EM OUT AND ALL THE BABIES THAT HAD ON THE AMERICA TAX PAYER'S DOLLAR!!!!!!

 NO TO Dream Act!
NO TO Dream Act!

Hills35: I agree with you. Blick's post was spot on. With all the economic problems blacks are having why would we want to support giving legal status to people that already as illegal immigrants get treated with more consideration than we do as decendants slaves who helped make America one of the richest and most powerful country's in the world? If President Obama approve's this bill he will losethe votes of me and all the black people I know. 

NO DREAM ACT !
NO DREAM ACT !

I absolutely agree with blick, I live in Dallas and have watched this city being taken over little by little by illegal immigrants. As there numbers increase, the Mexican population is getting more and more arrogant as a whole. I will never support any policy that gives legal status to people who broke the law by coming into the country illegally.Blacks have become like 3 class citizens in Dallas and are being push out of jobs left and right. Blacks suffered the terrible injustice of being captured and enslaved for hundreds of years in American and have never recieved any kind of reparations. HELL NO TO THE DREAM ACT!!!!!!!!!! And every black person I know feels the same way. AMERICA OWES EACH BLACK FAMILY 40 ACRES AND A MULE; even that doesn't scratch the surface of making up for the blood, sweat and suffering we were put through as slaves and are still going through.

Juan Mateo Montana
Juan Mateo Montana

Who the <this blank="" intentionally="" left="" space=""> does she represent? </this>

Hdealmanzo
Hdealmanzo

all i know. . .is that "white man" went and kidnapped Kunti Kinte from Africa. . .to come and be slave. . .washing white mans "toilets". . . .and they let us. . ."spicks". . .(Mexicans" come in to work for cheap. . . . .soooooooooooo who's the winner?????????"

Martalicia78
Martalicia78

(tech difficulties) As I was saying: We have invested in these youth who are hungry to become productive individuals in society. Why do we refuse to give them, their families and friends some peace? Why do we as a nation insist on placing barrier after barrier to make their life here harder? It's inhumane. Their not asking for blood, their asking for an opportunity to LIVE and WORK in PEACE.

Martalicia78
Martalicia78

I'm tired of hearing the same rant..."we don't pay taxes" or that African-Americans "did not choose" to come here, they were brought. You know, ironically, the population whose hope and future lies in the passage of the DREAM Act also "did not choose" to be brought to the US. They came as children, for many reasons, some that we perhaps cannot even imagine, but they are here. We've invested so much time and money in their education in the K-12 system it would be a very bad "business move" to "get rid" of your investment.

DREAMer
DREAMer

everyone needs to STOP! Will people please research this stuff, before making fools of themselves???  

first off, over 40% of immigrant youth entered America LEGALLY. You realize a minor can not commit a crime right? Yes. undocumented families DO pay taxes. it's called an ITIN, look it up if you're ignorant enough to say so other wise without first knowing what it is. 

HOW DO I KNOW? because I, am undocumented. Yes, my whole family pays taxes, and has a LEGAL  ITIN (you can't get a fake one, the IRS takes EVERYONE's money, not just legal citizens), my father has a work visa, but didn't renew our family's tourist visa. AND we have a EIN, which we are able to use with our VALID ITIN. 

EVEN if, we had a fake social, and worked. THE QUESTION IS: WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT DOING WITH THAT MONEY??? They're obviously NOT telling the public about the taxes being payed to those "fake" socials.

And, anyone without papers CAN'T receive government aid! Medicaid, food stamps, etc...! 

blick, " We (blacks) did not ask to come to this country", yeah well, GUESS WHAT?! NEITHER DID I!

BUT, if we're starting to deport immigrants, ONLY NATIVE AMERICANS have the right to be here, so, why don't y'all go ahead and start deporting yourselves then? It's "REASONABLE", no?

Angelica
Angelica

This is exactly what they want us to do.  In-fighting amongst the "minorities" in an effort to prolong progress in America.  At some point, people of all cultures and ethnicities are going to have to come together to protect the little rights we have in a world where institutionalized racism exists otherwise, what's the point?  Undocumented immigrants deserve free and equal education as much as the next person.  It should not be based on who is legal or illegal.  No HUMAN is illegal!  The DREAM Act has always been smart legislation.  It was a piece written in the early 2000s, co-sponsored by many Republican's who are now so scared of their fringe right supporters and willing to publicly denounce the DREAM today.  Angela Davis is stating an obvious fact: the DREAM is a struggle that needs to be fought and supported by all.  Let's be realistic, as much as you may find the idea of deporting 12 million undocumented immigrants "reasonable," it will never happen.  Providing equal access to affordable education for everyone is the step in the right direction.  Knowledge is Power!

Teresa
Teresa

I am black and don't agree with the Dream Act, nor do I believe I should have to embrace it.  We (blacks) did not ask to come to this country.  We were kidnapped from our homeland and forced into labor to build America.  I pay my taxes however undocumented individuals do not and I don't believe I should pay for them. I'm all about justice for all people, however, It is a shame to realize that an undocumented student can attend higher education pay no taxes and pay in-state fees while legal individuals must pay taxes as well as out of state fees.  Where is the justice in that?

Ronald Melendrez
Ronald Melendrez

My history professor says their is nothing new under the sun. Latino immigrants seek job opportunities here in the states because their developing countries are raped by the united states. In a sense the Latino immigrant has also been forced from his homeland thus indirectly they have been forcefully displaced from their land in order to deal with the circumstances that they have been subjected to. Racism persists while you argue that the undocumented don't pay taxes they actually do contribute a great deal. If anything check the statistics Latino undocumented workers disproportionately pay into the system and yet they are denied basic human rights. Education is a right not a privilege. Check with the UN. Moreover, lets be honest no one is complaining about the Canadian immigrant. Colorlines still exist.

guest
guest

More than 80% of illegal immigrants pay taxes!!! They do it through sales tax, income, and thanks to obtaining a fake SS #'s so YES they are paying taxes. And what option do latinos have when Mexico, Columbia, etc. have been ravaged by cartels because of an AMERICAN drug addiction? There are over 1,000 bodies of women in Sonoran desert because there families would not give into blackmail...so they're wives and daughter are being murdered for it. 

DREAM ACT serves those students who didn't have choice of where they live. Their parents moved them to this country due to the violence or poverty (the US has been really good at taking land away from natives in South America, so they are left to be a little more than indentured servants on their own land, so provide profit for American businessmen). For those of you who think that they always have a choice, I am sorry, but choosing between immigration (to a country where they are treated like a second class citizen), child prostitution, being a drug mule, or being homeless in a third world country.....HOW IS THIS A CHOICE? 

On a final note, think about the fact that the majority of the population in cities like LA, Miami, etc. are latino. Latinos are more than 25% of population in California. What happens if we don't educate the majority of the population? If you look purely at the numbers, you would never deny 25% of the population education...what would have to your economy if you do that? The Latino population is going to be a decisive vote in this election...let's start treating them like they DO have a voice in this country, just like you and I. 

Fgnetherland
Fgnetherland

Peace in response too (Blick) First and formost that word (Black) isn't a Nationality of our People it is a term that defines a Color of water such as the Niger River in West Africa Because it contains Black water.... Secondly People that look like you and Myself are    Moors" not Blacks are Colored are any of those Misnomered Names....Maybe Two Hours in A up to Date Library would relieve the Strain on  Lettered Men and Women Alike, should you find sometime. Instead of running your mouth .... Peace and Love and Let Learning be the END......( *

CESAR
CESAR

It is funny how you have an image that we reach higher education without paying taxes. Please do your research and understand that undocumented students pay taxes. I do not know how much you know about the DREAM Act but do you know that there are requirements that have to be met before you are put in PATH to citizenship. We were brought here at a young age without any say so think about that when you think we are so different. 

Tania Forero 39
Tania Forero 39

Blick, it seems to me like you don't fully comprehend what the DREAM Act entails... It is aimed at helping undocumented students who were brought here at a young age (almost always without a choice) you mentioned that Africans were brought here against their will, but so were the students that would benefit from the DREAM Act... Just a little insight.

derekwashington
derekwashington

You did not just seriously give the "we were kidnapped" excuse for your bigotry and ignorance of what the DREAM Act is? Did you? I am Black and I wholeheartedly support the DREAM Act. 

Sam
Sam

Undocumented residents DO pay taxes - property tax when they rent, sales tax whenever they buy things, gas tax when fueling up, etc. Income tax isn't the only tax people pay - in fact, 47 percent of Americans don't, because they don't make enough to. 

Also, when they pay in-state fees, they pay the complete price - no financial aid, grants, or loans (the CA DREAM Act doesn't kick in until next year, if my memory's correct.) Furthermore, if at a UC, their money (33 percent return-to-aid program) goes into scholarships they can't access. As a Cal Grant and private scholarship recipient, I'm pretty sure some undocumented student helped pay my way through school, and I'm grateful for it.

Everyone's just trying to make a living. Why can't we do it together? Big banks, broken government, and the prison industry victimize everyone - black, brown, yellow; citizen, resident, or undocumented person. 

i disagree...
i disagree...

Actually, undocumented people do pay taxes. Lots of em. Although this amount is hard to determine, rough estimates put the contribution of undocumented folks at $9 billion dollars this year into social security alone. The Social Security administration estimates that at least 75% of undocumented workers are on formal payrolls, and therefore have income tax, medicare, and social security removed from their pay checks. Also, everyone who purchases anything has to pay sales tax (which in LA is exorbitant, between 8.75 and 9.75% depending on the municipality) and renters and undocumented home owners also pay property taxes (renters, more indirectly, but property tax is a part of rent costs). All this tax revenue is used to fund services that most undocumented people cannot access. So, I have to disagree with you blick, a vast majority of undocumented workers do pay taxes and contribute to the social wage with little to no hope of accessing the services that they are paying into.

Also, education, housing, and fair wages are a right, not a privilege. If higher education was free or cheap (which it used to be in California) then this wouldn't be an issue. In the case of Los Angeles, most of the city's revenues are spent on funding the criminal injustice system (police, courts, prisons, probation, etc.), that disproportionately arrests, convicts, and incarcerates Black and Latino people. Additionally, funds spent on prison construction come from lease revenue bonds, which accrue a lot of debt that future generations will have to pay.

I think the real question is to ask, is when will the stewards of our social wages and tax dollars use that money responsibly? At what point will we stop scapegoating each other and hold these stewards accountable? It is very functional to drive a wedge between blacks, who have been pushed out of labor in Los Angeles for the past sixty years, and undocumented workers, who contribute value to the economic system that they are barred from recovering.

and furthermore...
and furthermore...

Furthermore, that logic, "I shouldn't have to pay for them" is exactly what went into sentencing a black woman in Connecticut to 12 years in prison for using a false address to enroll her child in a better school district. It was the same logic behind racially restrictive covenants in Los Angeles that were used to limit the ability for Blacks and Japanese Americans to purchase homes in Los Angeles until the historic Shelley vs. Kramer case in 1948, which prohibited real estate discrimination based on race. The city of Los Angeles, and the nation at large has historically attempted to bar immigrant and black workers from accessing spaces and resources that are the products of their labor. Since many blacks have de jure citizenship, it is crucial for us to work with non-citizens in their struggles for fair labor, housing, and access to education because it is precisely in creating tension between blacks and undocumented workers and other racial groups that these racist and injust systems continue to reproduce themselves.

Los Angeles also has a rich history of interracial organizing that we should not forget. Blacks and Latinos helped to defend each others neighborhoods during the Zoot Suit Riots, in which White serviceman visited violence upon black and brown communities. Radical Jewish people in Boyle Heights formed the LA Committee for the Foreign Born to defend migrant workers rights.

In reality this question, about whether blacks should be in solidarity with undocumented workers has already been answered by history. Many people in the past and present recognize that the best way to create a democratic future is to work in collaboration. To recognize difference and privilege and create a political, social, and economic vision that seeks to make concrete and real the universal rights of freedom, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness that are supposedly the framework for our society, but in actuality are unevenly deployed and enjoyed.

Ashe.

Sam
Sam

Again, I mentioned sales, property, and gas taxes rolled up in their payments for goods, rent, and gasoline. Federal income tax isn't the only tax that we pay. What if they smoke or drink? "Sin tax" on tobacco and alcohol. Also, Angelica notes the ITTN number system.

If anything, they'll pay MORE taxes over all once we provide a pathway to residency and/or citizenship, because it'll be easier. 

Angelica
Angelica

When do documented citizens suffer?  I find this idea questionable only because it's always from an anecdotal perspective.  Undocumented immigrants pay sales and property taxes and many have access to ITIN numbers, provided by the IRS, that are used to assist in filing taxes.  Think about this...the IRS -- a federal agency, provides ITIN numbers in place of SS#'s for undocumented immigrants. So basically, we're willing to take their money, but refuse to give them a legal pathway to citizenship?  

blick
blick

I recognize differences and privileges, however I don't want documented citizens to suffer because of undocumented citizens.  How are these undocumented citizens paying taxes without a social security number or Tax id?  Either they are invalid or they are getting the numbers illegally.

blick
blick

Hills35 truly has issues.

Sam
Sam

Thank you for thus. As an Asian American, I have SO much privilege in this society in dealing with the authorities, education, and work. But my mother was undocumented. Just because we've "gotten legal" or I was born a citizen doesn't mean that other immigrants hurt my education - because our roles could have been reversed, and when one person can't live fully in America, all of us are held back.

Twenty years ago, race-baiting and demagogy and anger focused on Asians "taking our jobs" and "invading our communities." The result, at least here, was the riots. In Detroit, Vincent Chin was murdered and his broken-hearted mother went back to China. We know better than to let people separate us like this. The DREAM Act doesn't hurt black Americans any more than affirmative action hurts Asians. Are we going to fight over crumbs? Or get together and bake a bigger pie?

hills35
hills35

You sound like an idiot. I don't know what left-wing rag you got your info from but it is false. Illegal aliens work off the books, get paid in cash, and collect welfare for their children. If these people paid what you said the national debt wouldn't exist. America is substantially POORER thanks to their presence in our country.

Fgnetherland
Fgnetherland

Pardon the Body @" Hills" you are very ; very incoherent you have no clue what so ever......first off this country has been inDebt since 1933,do some homework then talk about what you know instead of what you may think or Believe, Truth is but One and Needs NO Support, Please Know that Fiat isn't real Currency and Neither is the Dollar.....It is a DEBT NOTE. A DAMN I OWE YOU  AND THATS IT. NOTHING MOOR AND NOTHING LESS. Real Money is "PEOPLE" WORTH THERE WEIGHT IN GOLD"

Sam
Sam

"I think there's got to be a better way for immigrants to receive their residency and pay taxes."I wish there was, too. There isn't. 

I've heard so many variations on "go to the back of the line" and, to quote Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jose Antonio Vargas, "if there were a line (he) would go there, bring his Gaga CDs, and wait for as long as it took." But there isn't one.

There is no line. None. 

The system doesn't make sense, runs slowly, and decades of work can be unraveled if your lawyer or some INS bureaucrat make a mistake. That's what happened to my grandparents and mother. 

Student visas expired, residency application had been sitting in a drawer somewhere - boom, you're all "illegal" and subject to deportation. 

There is no single way to "get legal" once you drop out of status - except Reagan's one-time IRCA, or a family member sponsors you again (and that takes years, possibly decades.) 

Nobody likes having undocumented immigrants here, least of all the immigrants themselves. Who likes having to hide, not being able to work real jobs, not being able to rely on society for the things citizens and residents can? It sucks. 

My mom still says she used to be "illegal" - and she spits the word out with as much bitterness as she does pride for having overcome it. It's awful, believe me.

And that's all we want - a better way for these people to become tax-paying residents. DREAM is a temporary fix to an enormous problem.

blick
blick

Unfortunately I am from VA as well.  Shame on VA for numerous reasons!  I think there's got to be a better way for immigrants to receive their residency and pay taxes.  I don't believe we can deport all immigrants nor should we. Only those who commit heinous crimes.

blick
blick

But you ARE an idiot!

Sam
Sam

Deport them. Deport 12 million people. See what happens to the economy.

Want a preview? Watch 9500 Liberty.

Prince William County, VA passed an ordinance requiring police to check immigration status in 2007. 

Immigrants and their families - even legal permanent residents and native-born citizens, pulled up and left. Housing values dropped like a stone, crime went up for the first time in 15 years, and businesses shut down as their clientele stopped shopping. 

These people just want to get on with their lives. Give them a chance to pay taxes, and I'll bet a month's rent they'll pay the minute they get residency. My mom's had her green card almost thirty years, and she's never missed tax day. My dad's been a citizen for 16 years, and he's the same way.

Bryan
Bryan

Think about what you just said..."i'm all about justice for all people, however" please think before you say something that makes you sound very ignorant...it's as if i said I love all people but...or I am doing my best to hire these people but...these statements takes away some of the responsibility we have and solely put it on the other individual...just saying think about it!

blick
blick

Bryan stop being an idiot and READ!!!   There is no justice in the dream act.  

hills35
hills35

What blick said was absolutely correct. It seems he did a lot of thinking before he posted. You should consider doing the same. 

Geronimo Jigaga
Geronimo Jigaga

Angela Davis is a notorious racist and has denigrated other races continually while drawing a state paycheck.  Down with this racist fool!  Down with Angela!

blick
blick

Although I disagree with her on this Angela Davis is brilliant and CANNOT be a racist.  Please get your facts straight.  

Sam
Sam

Agreed. I'm for the DREAM Act (in fact, I worked with Derek on the exercise that led to this interview) andAngela Davis is brilliant.

hillarys_new_shoes
hillarys_new_shoes

 Nearly every word of the above article refutes what you just said, but thanks for playing.

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