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Global Warming in California? Not According to Snowpack Records Analyzed by Controversial Professor John Christy

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The Sierra Nevada range.
If global warming is a serious problem making our summers hotter and our water sources drier, we'd certainly have felt it in California in the last 130 years, right?

But a new study that looks at the Sierra Mountains' snowpack and other statewide precipitation in that span concludes that "over time snowfall in California is neither increasing nor decreasing."

We'll drink to that.

Well, not so fast:

California native John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville, authored the paper, Searching for Information in 133 Years of California Snowfall Observations, to be published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Hydrometeorology.

He tells the Weekly that while his study might calm fears of global warming's contemporary effects in the Golden State, it doesn't conclude that we're in the clear as far as droughts go:

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The Sierras.

There have been colossal droughts in California in the distant past. You don't need human explanation as a cause for such flux. No matter what you think about global warming, these kinds of long period droughts can return.

The Sierra Nevadas provide much of California's water. They feed L.A.'s need via the Owens Valley and the city Department of Water and Power's aqueduct. (As a side note, see Chinatown and/or Inventing L.A.).

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The Owens Valley (we're to the bottom left, off the page)

Researchers recently recorded "the driest December in 22 years" in California and a Sierra snowpack that has been measured as the lowest on record in nearly 50 years at certain locations.

Christy doesn't seem worried:

You'll see very large variations from one year to the next, lots of ups and downs. But you look across 133 years, and they're bouncing around all over, with a mean level that doesn't change. I think there are a lot of claims and worries about the Sierra snowpack, given claims about global warming. Is there some long-term change here? You just don't see that effect on the Sierra.

His study concludes, "[R]egional trends ending in the 2010-11 season for the
longest and most robust time series were not significantly different ... "

Christy's work on the environment has been called out in the past as "unscientific nonsense." He's also been name-checked as a global-warming "denier."

But the facts of his latest work are right here in black-and-white (link).

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Christy's study shows no long-term slide for snowpack.

He argues:

Droughts will happen. You don't have to conjure any excuse for them. But it appears the source of the water for California remains fairly steady overall.

Do you believe?

[@dennisjromero / djromero@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]


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Deirdre Des Jardins
Deirdre Des Jardins

This study is potentially of huge signficance, which is why it is attracting both attention and criticism.

The graph shows that the lowered snowpack in the 1980's is consistent with the lowered snowpack in the 1960's and 1920's.     The very marked trends that you see in air temperature and sea level rise are completely absent from the data series.It could be that precipitation changes predicted by climate models will lag other changes to the climate, or that the effects will be less on the coasts than in the middle of the continent.

De
De

You can clearly see the downward trend after 1975, what is this uy smoking, its right there the dark line

Michael Smith
Michael Smith

You're using Joe Romm as a credible source for disparaging remarks against one of the greatest climate researchers of our generation?  Wow.   Are you insane?

buster_friendly
buster_friendly

Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner is also a good one to add to the list.

Banjobob2
Banjobob2

Dr. Christy clearly is not a denier, but he is skeptical of the doom and gloom theories of the church of AGW.

Workorplay
Workorplay

John Christy has made multiple errors in faulty research in the past. He is sloppy. There is reason to doubt anything he says.

jdey123
jdey123

Global warming has also failed to materialise in UK winter records going back to 1910

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/cl...

Choose "mean temperature" and "winter".

The global temperature for January 2012 was lower than it was for January 1988.

http://dat­a.giss.nas­a.gov/gist­emp/tabled­ata_v3/GLB­.Ts.txt

Global warming only seems to be occurring where hardly anybody lives with Greenland and the Arctic being the one's most commonly focussed on by the treehuggers.

jimspice
jimspice

"But the facts of his latest work are right here in black-and-white (link)."

Uh, no they're not.

ozonator
ozonator

Christy and Roy'd-rage' Spencer only predict a free AGW lunch.

I predicted the very recent 5.6 quake from their freedom to pollute and their pollution - 

Also a proxy for a thermometer Northern California (and Oregon) was a correct AGW quake prediction made on 2/4/12 under - http://idealab.talkingpointsme...

It was in the “Moon Walk Model ... Northern California (6+)” region under 2/5 - 11/12 with n=24, greater to or equal to the 5.5 minimum, and within the standard 2-week model.  It was also correct for “Oregon (6+)” under the same conditions as it was within 100 miles found in “GBRWE 2/5 - 11/12''s Extreme Planetary Warnings for Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and Solar/Terrestrial Flares from Human Activities” (Robert Rhodes, Supplemental; GBRWE 2/5 - 11/12, 2/4/12).

Extremist Republicans and Christians don’t like paying for their AGW death and destruction “liberty”  through earthquakes much like their wars on Iraq, Afghanistan, healthcare, and  the rest of science.  For examples, “ Monday Quotes: EIB Original ... March 8, 2010 ...“Popularized by me ... the courage, gonads, and guts ... You would think that the insurance companies are causing the earthquakes“; “When Harry Reid Says Republicans Want to Kill You, Some People Believe It ... February 13, 2012 ... RUSH: ... "mercury in the water" dates back to 2001 when George W. Bush was inaugurated  ... Have you ever noticed Republican CEOs want to kill their customers? ... the entire foundation for environmental wackoism. "Republicans like pollution! Republicans want dirtier water and dirty air." ... "Republicans want to kill the environment! Republicans love pollution and the poison! Republicans want to kill people!" The Nazis used to accuse the Jews of poisoning the wells. It's a common leftist tactic”; and “Did the Leaders of the Catholic Church Make a Deal with the Redistributionist Devil? ... February 13, 2012 ...RUSH: ... violating the Constitution in such a way that it transgresses on someone else's liberty ... government redistribution of wealth equals charity. ... It's destruction ... destroying lives.  ... destroys dignity ... destroys humanity ... destroys the family. ... insurance companies will provide abortion, contraception, morning-after pills, whatever” (the old, ugly and evil Rush “looting” Limbaugh with Hannity/Noory how to guide of extremist Republican and Christian outlets for creating legal illnesses, murders for hire, and failed antebellum states with willing accomplices and sham brides and sex tours, another GOP human trafficker by harvesting humans like Esso-Koch whose products kill people; unable to sell - NRA gun/other erection products, hair/other plugs, winter clothing except Mittens Romney, disaster insurance, Nazi products ‘cept Exxon chemicals, crayon-ready denier college textbooks/manifestoes, spontaneous abortion office products, while conserving Alzheimer's of the new aristocracy; rushlimbaugh.com).  “Eli Lehrer ... harshly criticized Rep. John Campbell’s (R-CA) introduction of the House companion to the Senate’s Earthquake Insurance Affordability Act. ... would put all federal taxpayers on the hook for billions of dollars in potential future losses sustained by the California Earthquake Authority (CEA).  ... “ ... It would ... displace a productive private industry ... a terrible idea.”” (“Heartland Institute: Campbell Earthquake Bill a Terrible Idea”;  By Eli ‘we-lie’ Lehrer, vice president of the Heartland Institute, seminars of corporate liars  who murder and enslave, Ooops, “ExxonMobil contributed a total of $560,000 to the Heartland Institute between 1998 and 2005”; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartlan... on 12/19/08; heartland.org/press-releases, 10/7/11).   Investors in AGW, “Audience at tea party debate cheers leaving uninsured to die” (By Rachel Rose Hartman | The Ticket; news.yahoo.com, 9/13/11).  

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