Blanca Cardenas, L.A. Mom Protesting the Foreclosure of Her Home, Deported to Mexico

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blanca cardenas family.jpg
Estrella TV
Cardenas' husband and baby daughter.
Update: Here's video of Occupy L.A. breaking back into Cardenas' foreclosed home.

A married couple with two children were protesting the foreclosure of their home in North Hollywood on February 22, when the unthinkable happened.

Blanca Cardenas, a 37-year-old mother with a 19-month-old baby girl, was arrested by LAPD officers for trespassing at the property. According to her U.S. citizen husband, Gerardo Quinones, she was hauled down to the Van Nuys station, where she posted $1,000 bail -- "but they didn't let her leave."

Cardenas stayed in LAPD custody for one week, until yesterday...

... when Immigrations and Customs Enforcement picked her up at the Lynwood station. Within hours, says Quinones, she was on a bus to the border.

ICE gave the Weekly this statement on Cardenas' deportation:

Ms. Cardenas Flores was removed to Mexico at approximately 5:15 p.m. Wednesday (Feb. 29) after coming into ICE's custody earlier in the day. Cardenas Flores was previously removed from the United States in 2002. ICE reinstated her prior order of removal, paving the way for her repatriation Wednesday afternoon. ICE is focused on smart, effective immigration enforcement that prioritizes the removal of criminal aliens, recent border crossers and egregious immigration law violators, such as those who have been previously removed from the United States.

Quinones explains that about 10 years ago, his wife "had to go to Mexico for a problem with the family." When she tried to cross again, she was arrested and thrown back over the border. Quinones says she eventually made it home to her family in L.A. (illegally), but never went to court.

So -- despite ICE's promise not to deport mothers of small babies, spouses of U.S. citizens, etc. -- officers apparently felt Cardenas' inability to obtain citizenship made her a danger to the community.

Then there was the foreclosure last week.

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Google Maps
5557 Elmer Avenue in North Hollywood, where Quinones says his family was living.
According to Quinones, he and his wife were "in a fight" with Bank of America over their home. The couple filed for bankruptcy, believing that would protect them from the foreclosure. But he claims then Bank of America resold the home, and the new owner reported Cardenas and Quinones for trespassing.

"She tried to show [the police] paperwork that shows she is the legal owner of the property," says Quinones. "And she refused to leave the house."

Which led to her arrest -- and eventual deportation.

Here's a heartbreaking news report from Estrella TV, shot one day before Cardenas was kicked out of the country, when there was still hope:

Quinones is in San Ysidro at the moment, meeting some TV news reporters before going to see his wife in Rosarito.

His most disconcerting claim is that ICE officers refused Cardenas her right to an attorney, and that she never signed any papers. ICE spokeswoman Virginia Kice has not confirmed or denied that allegation.

Meanwhile, Occupy L.A. -- which has thrown itself behind both the housing-bubble and illegal-immigration debates -- is mobilizing. At 6 p.m. tonight, protesters will meet at Senor Fish Restaurant downtown to plan a "major march" in outrage of Cardenas' deportation.

[@simone_electra / swilson@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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Peace
Peace

Wow? They can easily live in Mexico? Opinion must come from someone that has lived there, wonder why the people risk their lives to live not in Mexico. Any ways ice, immigration treat human beings in the worst way possible, the saying one bad apple spoils the rest is very true hn it comes to them, the verge joe wouldn't know hat that is, and hopefully won't but I feel there has been injust to hat family, not only where they struggling to keep their home just like the us citizens but also their wife and mom, most people that dont have family there are in great danger of dying, one of the reasons they risk dying to leave there, violence and corrupt government , god bless,

RETUSAF
RETUSAF

This woman was deported back in 2002. How stupid was it for her to break the law knowing she was a illegal alien for one thing and a illegal alien who was already deported once and snuck back into the country. Did she think they were not going to notice? Did she think Obama or the sanctuary state of California  was going to save her.

bigriggs
bigriggs

They don't like or respect our laws. They like to use buzz words such as unfair, harsh, draconian etc.... They just like to follow their own rules and to hell with a nations laws.

LB
LB

She had legal documents in process, her status was in process, she did not break the law if everything was in process.  If you want an example of an illegal immigrant who is truly a danger to our community, you can read about him by goggling his name.  Dr. Ehab Mohamed has been living in California illegally since 2006 when his Egyptian visa was revoked by American immigration officials.  This doctor is under investigation for the death of one of his patients, who paid him $100,000 for a liposuction procedure gone wrong – the patient died.  He was only arrested because he was caught in a sting operation while trying to sell $20,000 worth of medical equipment which did not belongto him. 

My question to all is: why are you guys so angry with a lady that had paperwork in process, both to fix her legal status as well as to fight for her home?  Compared to the Dr. who killed a woman back in 2006 and was not arrested for it?  The man killed a woman and nothing happenedto him all this time!  He is still here, has been all this time!  He has not been deported, but was given the chance to trial, defense lawyer, etc.?  What will probably end up happening is that he will be found guilty, prosecuted and jailed, God knows for how long.  Wonderful!, let’s keep the hard-core criminals and pay for a life-time jail sentence that will come out of our pocket over the person who was trying to become legalized and was actually making payments on her home until the bank took it from her illegally and had her deported without a fair trial. 

LB
LB

For those of you who are in need or know someone who can use some mortgage relief:  www.naca.com  They are a non-profit helping people accross the US and their services are free.

LB
LB

The previous scenario was to try to put you in her shoes.  If a loved one happened to be very sick or dying in a foreign country, but the country you were in mandated you could not leave for 10 years, would you still leave?  Many people here in the US are forced to make such decision more often than not.  Don’t you think it’s wrong to make someone choose between a loved one and a green card?  While it would seem pointless to continue this conversation, since Blanca has already been deported, the truth is that this sort of injustice occurs a lot, but with different individuals.  You only know about this couple because they decided to do something about it.  If you are still interested in Blanca, let me share something I came across, regarding her legal status.  The first time she was “deported”, she “got caught” while returning to the US from a family emergency and it happened at the border crossing.  Her husband explained to immigration her legal status was pending and if they would allow her into the country.  Their mistake was probably that they drove into the border crossing as opposed to going to a lawyer, etc.  Essentially they asked immigration if she could come in and that’s how she “got caught”.  It’s not like she was jumping the fence or being smuggled in or officers were chasing her down the street.  After that, they were told they had to wait a minimum of 10 years before she could re-apply for anything.  The couple waited that long and her file was in progress.  So, how is that breaking the law?  ICE decided to deport her and disregard the paperwork on file.  Her lawyer attempted to help but wasn’t allowed to do so – hence the protests.  In case I am mistaken, everyone still has the right to a fair, speedy trial, right?  Isn’t everyone supposed to be innocent until proven guilty?  In her case, this right was denied, while hard-core criminals do get this right and guess who pays for their lawyers when they have to be appointed one?  Did I mention she has her own lawyer?  Don’t get me wrong, we should all follow the law, but there are times when someone with a heart, like a judge, has to review the case to determine what the next step should be.  No one put this more eloquently than Judith Van Der Roos in this very blog two weeks ago where she stated something along the lines of:  We can hide behind legalities (the law) in an attempt to justify what is happening in this country and ask if you really want to live and be judged solely by those laws without any sort of human values, such as compassion?   Analyze her comment carefully and then think if that is truly how you want this country to function and how you want to live.   I just hope Blanca gets her day in court.  

bigriggs
bigriggs

She broke a federal law the first time she snuck in. I don't care what she did afterwards, she needs to play by the rules. Of course I would leave if my mom died but, I would not be in another country illegaly, so that's a moot point. She doesn't have guts, she has blatant disregard for our countries immigration laws.

LB
LB

Honestly, if your family was in the US wouldn't you like to see them as well.  Before she got caught the first time she already had the kid that is now 14 years old with an american citizen.  Obviously she had immigration papers in process, but then had to leave the country due to an emergency.  Let's pretend your mom died, you would leave too.  When she was trying to come back in, she was caught by immigration and it went on her record.  From there everythign went down hill.  They were told to wait 10 years, they did and then this happened.  The lady has guts. 

bigriggs
bigriggs

She had already snuck in previously, she had been deported and once again, snuck back in illegaly. She needs to go as does the Egyptian Doctor you have referenced after he has served a lenghty prison sentence.

none_for_me_thanks
none_for_me_thanks

The thing that gets me is the insolence of purchasing a house you probably really know you can't afford, falling behind on your mortgage then thinking that if you declare bankruptcy, you'll be magically forgiven and get to stay in your house.I've been working and paying taxes since I was 18; much as I love to own, I know I can't afford it. Where are the handouts for reasonable, hardworking people like me?

LB
LB

Here, help yourself:  naca.com - they'll probably give you a good interest rate. 

LB
LB

Here, help yourself:  www.naca.com - they'll probably give you a good interest rate. 

The_Yeti_Knows
The_Yeti_Knows

Yeti wish he had picture, maybe provide you with handout of choice , nudge .

LB
LB

Now, you don’t need to own a home to be evicted, you can be renting a room, an apartment, a house, etc. and still be evicted for lack of payment.  I am sure you know someone whom this has happened to and I am sure you don’t think less of them because they lost their job, a source of income, maybe someone got sick, etc.  You don't know the full scope of this situation so it is easy for you to judge others. 

Many people purchase homes because they have the means to, others do it for investment purposes, etc.  Recently Obama was asking people, banks, and businesses to spend money to stimulate the economy.  He is making it easy for everyone to refinance homes in order to stimulate the economy.  This is just one example of how people, regardless of their legal status, help the economy.  Needless to say, circumstances change as time goes on.  The person in this article obviously had the means and guts to defy the odds and purchase the house.  For ten years they made payments on it – you can find the property history on redfin.com.  The couple filed for bankrupcy, this does not mean their debt would be wiped, the bank would probably negotiate with them or take the house, which they did (but the proceedings had not been completed).  If the bank had negotiated, the couple could still be paying and contributing to the economy. 

Regarding benefits, if she is illegal, she is not eligible because she does not have an SSN.  So what benefits is she taking from american citizens or residents?  Obviously, if they have the means to hire a lawyer to represent them with the housing problem and another one for immigration, they are not on wellfare. 

Alva
Alva

 Society rewards the careless, indolent, and addicted.  Sorry, you're too responsible.  But keep paying for those who aren't!

teknik1200
teknik1200

get real, poor people are not getting rich on welfare.

Oopsgsd1
Oopsgsd1

I thank god for those good wonderful human beings who feel the need to help Blanca during this dark time in her life.

Somehow B & A will hear her plead, and a miracle will be given.

Frazierdonald49
Frazierdonald49

I'm willing to bet bank of america can't produce the note , payment history or any papers to deem it a clean legal foreclosure , they have lost many cases here in new york state , they ( bank of america ) are playing out loan to own schemes , we know all about them here , we've traced out all of their tricks and the person that designed the scheme that connects the dots to all banks and lenders . Simply put , the federal reserve was just caught red handed as part of the scheme of which we have the pieces of the rest of the puzzle . It's the highest level of fraud acted upon citizens in human history . These banks are united states true terrorist .

beachbug1
beachbug1

So I suppose it is already assumed that all of LA and CA for that matter understands the video in this article??   I say we just give CA to mexico!  In about 20 years it will be nothing but mexicans and radical leftist anyway!!  Let them live in their blissful squalor!  There won't be anyone left to take $$$ from, because all the rich and normal Americans will have left anyway!  Socialism is just fine until you run out of other people's money!

LB
LB

Once upon a time several US states such as California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and parts of various other states belonged to Mexico.  Some argue that the territories were purchased by the US, others that they were sold by a corrupt Mexican president for personal gain and yetothers argue the US stole the territories.  You can read more about some of the story here if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M....  However, what youdon’t find too much of is what happened to the people leaving in those territories when the US took over.  They must have suffered a great deal and I bet some lost their homes, their family and probably even their life while trying to defend everything they owned from colonizers claiming to own the land, etc.  In a similar manner, this is probably a good example of it, whether illegal or not, there are many people in the US whose homes were swept from under their feet due to the banks’ deceitful practices.  This is why so many people are protesting.

Many people purchase homes because they have the means to, others do it for investment purposes, etc.  Recently Obama was asking people, banks, and businesses to spend money to stimulate the economy.  He is making it easy for everyone to refinance homes in order tostimulate the economy.  This is just one example of how people, regardless of their legal status, help the economy.  Needless to say, circumstances change as time goes on.  The person in thisarticle obviously had the means and guts to defy the odds and purchase the house.  For ten years they made payments on it – you can find the property history on redfin.com:http://www.redfin.com/homes-fo..., you don’t need to own a home to be evicted, you can be renting a room, an apartment, a house, etc. and still be evicted for lack of payment.  I am sure you know someone whom this has happened to and I am sure you don’t think less of them because they lost their job, a source of income, maybe someone got sick, etc.  In this case, the lady was arrested because she was following council from her lawyer.  The lawyer had advised her not to relinquish the property and to allow herself to be arrested if it came to that; otherwise she would forfeitthe home.  This lady is not a criminal; she had legal documents in place, which law enforcement failed to review before they decided to arrest her.  When she was told she would be arrested, she did not resist, she allowed herself to be handcuffed peacefully.  She is married to an American citizen and was trying to legalize her status following normal legal procedures.  She already had and continues to have an immigration lawyer representing her.  Obviously, the immigration process is not a short one and complications such as this one only make matters worse.  Now, many argue the family should just go live in Mexico, but the family separation they are undergoing does not only affect the immediate family, they all have extended family here in the US who loves them as much as your family loves you.  Yes, they can go live in Mexico, and maybe they will, for all you know, they have never discarded that possibility, but obviously they would like to stay and are doing everything they legally can to do so.  They have taken a stand to defend their rights, she put her family and home on the line and her husband is doing everything legally possible for her return and for an audience before the court.  He has taken on the streets to protest in addition to working.  Many of the people commenting on this blog sound like they were fortunate enough to have been born in the US; you might not know how it is to live in other countries where there is violence, corruption, famine, etc.  It is easy to sit behind a computer and say “she deserves it”, without considering everything this and other families are going through or without putting yourself in their shoes.  Immigration is vicious, once they book you for the smallest thing, they will make it impossible for you to fix your papers, regardless if you have paid X amount of money in fees, forms, services, etc.  You can spend a small fortune trying to accomplish this, it is no easy feat – not to mention the time (years) to get some kind of a response.  However, in this case, the banks and immigration seemed to have made a mistake because of the way the deportation was handled.  Basically, it was an express deportation and her lawyer only had 30 minutes to submit paperwork on her behalf, which they did not even consider.  Someone affiliated to LA Weekly wrote “So -- despite ICE's promise not to deport mothers of small babies, spouses of U.S. citizens, etc. -- officers apparently felt Cardenas' inability to obtain citizenship made her a danger to the community.” Honestly?  Do you think this woman is a threat to national security or to the community in any way?  If you believe this to be true, then anyone’s mom is a danger to the community and we should have them all arrested.  C’mon, it istime to open our eyes and see that immigration is a part of this country.  The US has been importing scientists, refugees, etc. for ever and granting them citizenship, sometimes without knowing if they have a "true" criminal record in their countries.  I have personally seen some of the refugees who come in, are given humanitarian aid in the form of money, help them purchase homes (relocation expenses), and are given food stamps.  I would see them driving BMWs and stopping at Ralph’s with their food stamps.  Does is seem fair to you thatpeople like this are allowed into the country while others who have years here and are not a threat to any one and have families are being kicked out? If you want an example of an illegal immigrant who is truly a danger to our community, you can read about him here:  Dr. Ehab Mohamed has been living in California illegally since 2006 when his Egyptian visa was revoked by American immigration officials.  This doctor is under investigation for the death of one of his patients, who paid him $100,000 for a liposuction procedure gone wrong – the patient died.  He was only arrested because he was caught in a sting operation while trying to sell $20,000 worth of medical equipment which did not belongto him.  You can read more here:  http://losangeles.cbslocal.com... question is, why are you guys so angry with a lady that had paperwork in process, both to fix her legal status as well as to fight for her home?  Compared to the Dr. who killed a woman back in 2006 and was not arrested for it?  The man killed a woman and nothing happenedto him all this time!  He is still here, has been all this time!  He has not been deported, but was given the chance to trial, defense lawyer, etc.?  What will probably end up happening is that he will be found guilty, prosecuted and jailed God knows for how long.  Yes!, let’s keep the hard-core criminal and pay for a life-time jail sentence that will come out of our pocket over the person who was trying to become legalized and was actually making payments on her home until the bank took it from her illegally and had her deported without a fair trial.   I rest my case.

Calie Mcmahan
Calie Mcmahan

AND I THOUGHT I WAS RACIST..... Wow... You all make me look like a saint....

bigriggs
bigriggs

The term racist has little to no meaning when people such as yourself pull it out of their ying yang all the time.

ShakinBoots
ShakinBoots

There is absolutely NOTHING racist about wanting people to respect our laws. We as citizens have to abide by them, and so should immigrants. Illegal immigrants should not even be here. By being here at all, they've already broken several laws.

Another citizen
Another citizen

Glad to see another criminal has been removed.  Just because she is a mother and a wife, does not change the fact that she is a criminal.

Now for the random conjecture, did she drive? So the roads are being made safer, because another un-licesnsed un-insured driver is gone.

LB
LB

I urge you to study the case before you post comments.  Calling someone a criminal without fully knowing the details is irresponsible.  Everyone's case is unique so don't generalize/stereotype.   

NOamnestyEVER
NOamnestyEVER

it's time to end LA RAZA SUPREMACY....

we already push 2 for english, wave the mex flag, hand them our jobs, and pay for thier ANCHOR BABY BIRTHING!

LOS ANGELES IS A MASSIVE CASE STUDY ON THE MEXICAN INVASION,OCCUPATION AND EVER EXPANDING WELFARE STATE.

 

http://mexicanoccupation.blogs...

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

Blanca is probably safer in Mexico as its just a matter of time until she is runover by an illegal unlicensed driver here in LA...

Judith van der Roos
Judith van der Roos

It would would appear that the imposition of the authority of government has become the enshrining principle of the USA, not humanity, this is one of the stepping stones to becoming a police state. I understand the desire to hide behind legalities when you do not wish to face up to what is happening in your country but always remember that first and foremost you live in a SOCIETY, then ask yourself if you want to remove its humanity by deferring all basis for decisions to law or do you still want to apply the basic human values, such as compassion.

Armando Cedillo
Armando Cedillo

Three cheers for ICE and three cheers for Bank of America! Los Angeles does not need more illegal immigrants, especially repeat offenders who can't make their mortgage payments. We are an over-populated metropolis still reeling from 3 threes of economic recession and decades of uncontrolled infiltration by unauthorized foreign nationals. Hopefully Blanca has learned a valuable lesson in life: crime does not pay. 

Hey
Hey

 There was no crime committed here. Two small children just got separated from their mother in what was a doubtlessly terrifying ordeal. She was taken to Mexico and dropped off as though she were a wild animal, not a human being. You cheer the BANK? You are a sick individual.

bigriggs
bigriggs

She and only she is responsible for being seperated from her children. Since when do wild animals travel by bus?

ShakinBoots
ShakinBoots

Two small children were separated from their mother because of the bad choices of their mother. The parents need to take responsibility for their actions and stop trying to act like THEY are innocent little victims. Their kids are victims of the parents choices. Nothing is stopping them from being together. They can go to Mexico anytime they'd like.

Hey
Hey

 So can you. But you won't. Does that start to give you a hint as to why they're here? And maybe why your ancestors came here (unless of course, you happen to be Native American).

ShakinBoots
ShakinBoots

Sounds to me like she got what she deserved. She got caught being here illegally TWICE. Ignored court orders to appear, her house was foreclosed on yet refused to leave the new owner's property. How much does the LA Weekly and the idiots at occupy la think this lady should get away with? She broke our laws and just like anyone else who breaks the law, there are consequences. She should have never been here in the first place.

The use of words like "HAUL her off", and "THROWN back over the border" implies she's some sort of innocent little victim and she's NOT. Another inacurate, no facts, trash post in favor of illegal immigrants breaking our laws. So predictable from this rag of a paper.

LB
LB

In this case, the lady was arrested because she was following council from her lawyer.  The lawyer had advised her not to relinquish the property and to allow herself to be arrested if it came to that; otherwise she would forfeit the home.  This lady is not a criminal; she had legal documents in place, which law enforcement failed to review before they decided to arrest her.  The couple had filed for bankruptcy, which legally prevents any sale of the home until the bankruptcy proceedings are over.  When she was told she would be arrested, she did not resist, she allowed herself to be handcuffed peacefully.  She is married to an American citizen and was trying to legalize her status following normal legal procedures.  She already had and continues to have an immigration lawyer representing her.  Obviously, the immigration process is not a short one and complications such as this one only make matters worse.  People are protesting the way with which the deportation was handeled as well as deceptive practices by B of A.  You can read more about bank's deceptive practices here and about this non-profit that helps people.  Who knows, maybe even you can benefit from this:  https://www.nacalynx.com/nacaW...

LB
LB

Once upon a time several US states such as California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and parts of various other states belonged to Mexico.  Some argue that the territories were purchased by the US, others that they were sold by a corrupt Mexican president for personal gain and yet others argue the US stole the territories.  You can read more about some of the story here if you are interested:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M... .  However, what you don’t find too much of is what happened to the people leaving in those territories when the US took over.  They must have suffered a great deal and I bet some lost their homes unfairly to colonizers claiming to own the land, etc.  In a much smaller scale, this is probably a good example of it, whether illegal or not, there are many people in the US who’s homes were swept from under their feet due to the banks’ deceitful practices.  Many people purchase homes because they have the means to, others do it for investment purposes, etc.  More recently Obama was asking people to purchase homes to stimulate the economy.  This is just one example of how people, regardless of their legal status, help the economy.  Needless to say, circumstances change as time moves forward.  The person in this article obviously had the means to purchase the house and for ten years they made payments on it – you can find the property history on redfin.com: http://www.redfin.com/homes-fo...Now, you don’t need to own a home to be evicted, you can be renting a room, an apartment, a house, etc. and still be evicted for lack of payment.  I am sure you know someone whom this has happened to and I am sure you don’t think less of them because they lost their job, a source of income, maybe someone got sick, etc.  In this case, the lady was arrested because she was following council from her lawyer.  The lawyer  had advised her not to relinquish the property and to allow herself to be arrested if it came to that, otherwise she would forfeit the home.  This lady is not a criminal, she had legal documents in place, which law enforcement failed to review before they decided to arrest her.  When she was told she would be arrested, she did not resist, she allowed herself to be handcuffed peacefully.  She is married to an American citizen and was trying to legalize her status following normal legal procedures.  She already had and continues to have an immigration lawyer representing her.  Obviously, the immigration process is not a short one and complications such as this one only make matters worse.  Now, many argue the family should just go live in Mexico, but the family separation they are undergoing is not just between them three, they all have extended family here in the US who loves them as much as your family loves you.  Yes, they can go live in Mexico, and maybe they will, for all you know, they have never discarded that possibility, but obviously they would like to stay and are doing everything they legally can to do so.  The way you speak makes it seem like you were fortunate enough to have been born in the US, so you might not know how it is to live in other countries where there is violence, corruption, famine, etc.  It is easy to sit behind your desk and say “she deserves it”, without considering everything this and other families are going through or without putting yourself in their shoes.  Immigration is vicious, once they book you for the smallest thing, they will make it impossible for you to fix your papers, regardless if you have payed X amount of money in fees, forms, services, etc.  You can spend a small fortune trying to accomplish this, it is no easy feat – not to mention the time (years) to get some kind of a response.  In this case, the banks and immigration made a mistake because of the way the deportation took place.  Basically, it was an express deportation and her lawyer only had 30 minutes to submit paperwork on her behalf, which they did not even consider.  Someone in the site wrote “So -- despite ICE's promise not to deport mothers of small babies, spouses of U.S. citizens, etc. -- officers apparently felt Cardenas' inability to obtain citizenship made her a danger to the community.” Honestly?  Do you think this woman is a threat to national security or to the community in any way?  If you believe this to be true, then anyone’s mom is a danger to the community and we should arrest them all.  C’mon, it is time to open our eyes and see that immigration is a part of this country.  The US has been importing scientists, refugees, etc. for ever and granting them citizenship, sometimes without knowing if they have a true criminal record in their countries.  I have personally seen some of the refugees who come in, are given money (humanitarian aid), help them purchase homes (relocation expenses), and food stamps.  I would see them driving BMWs and stopping at Ralph’s with their food stamps.  Is this fair to you? To me? If you want an example of an illegal immigrant who is truly a danger to the community, is this guy:  Dr. Ehab Mohamed who has been living in California illegally since 2006 when his Egyptian visa was revoked by American immigration officials.  This doctor is under investigation for the death of one of his patients, who paid him $100,000 for a liposuction procedure gone wrong – the patient died.  He was only arrested because he was caught in a sting operation while trying to sell $20,000 worth of medical equipment which did not belong to him.  You can read more here:  http://losangeles.cbslocal.com...My question is, why are you guys so angry with a lady that had paperwork in process, both to fix her legal status as well as to fight for her home?  Compared to the Dr. who killed a woman back in 2006 and was not arrested for it?  The man killed a woman and nothing happened to him all this time?  He is still here, has been all this time?  He has not even been deported.  I rest my case.

Hey
Hey

 Just so we're clear, immigration is not a criminal issue, according to U.S. laws, and rightly so. It is an administrative issue, meaning it is more about documentation than it is about criminality. People like to act like undocumented immigrants are criminals, but they are not. They are out of compliance, but immigration from Mexico is a humanitarian issue. Not a criminal issue. Go back to Nascar now.

Eddie
Eddie

JUST SO YOU'RE CLEAR....

Actually, Ms. Cárdenas was charged with a Felony for illegally re-entering the United States after being deported (the first time, in 2002).  So yes, it is a criminal issue.  

Rik L Rik
Rik L Rik

You're right. Immigration is not a criminal issue. However ILLEAGAL immigration is. By virtue of being here illeagaly, she is a criminal. Sorry, but that's how it is. Now, if you will excuse me, the police are at my door about the car I stole last night.  It's really about documentation, not criminality though.

Alva
Alva

 THE Rik L Rik?

ShakinBoots
ShakinBoots

And she's not in jail as a criminal is she. The penalty for her breaking of our immigration law was to be deported. That's what should have happened. That's what did happen.

Btw, many criminal offenses are committed by illegals once they are here. Ex. Identity theft/SS#

ShakinBoots
ShakinBoots

Well now you're just talking out of your ass, making stuff up. You've really dropped the ball on this convo so I'm going to just say goodbye now. Take care.

Hey
Hey

 Psst. She did none of that. Nice try at slander though.

She's not in jail now, but she was for five days, then she was taken across the border, away from her home and family. Why should that have happened in your expert opinion? She is married to a U.S. citizen and was going through the legal process of getting a green card.

Don't worry, I'm sure you are a bank employee or some troll hired to make it look like people really think like this. But we know you're not REALLY a sociopath.

Antagon
Antagon

 Bankers broke the law too. They created the financial and foreclosure crisis and no one has been charged for these crimes, NO ONE!

ShakinBoots
ShakinBoots

And they SHOULD be charged. Nobody said they shouldn't be.

Same way the bankers broke the law and should pay the price, so should this lady.

Why should one law breaker be given a free ticket while the other isn't. They should BOTH pay the consequences for their actions.

Heather
Heather

The reason she can never obtain citizenship is because of the Harsh/Unfair law that was passed in 1998 stating that any person who tried and was caught crossing into the US has no Pardon whatsoever and never will unless said law is ever revoked.

beachbug1
beachbug1

Heather!!  Shut up you moron!  Nothing unfair or harsh about protecting the soverign borders of our country!  Those that wish to visit have a perfectly good legal means to do it!  If you come home and find an unknown person in your house, would it be just so harsh and unfair to throw them out?  You MORON! 

Heather
Heather

I wish people like you could be in their shoes....you wouldn't stand a chance! Its not as easy as completing an application and paying a fee!!! If it were that simple there wouldn't be a problem now would there?!

Armando Cedillo
Armando Cedillo

Thank God for the congressmen who had the courage to pass such a law. We need more like it. 

LB
LB

Obviously you have something against immigrants.  If you dislike them so much, then urge the president and congressmen/women to provide help to those countries in need.  I don't mean to say humanitarian aid, but help the country give its citizens incentives to stay in their country.  Migrants come here because they want jobs, security, etc. Recently the US put weapons in the hands of drug cartels in order to track those weapons.  Well, that operation resulted in the death of several border agents.  I am just saying, sometimes the US is just as responsible for the violence, drugs, etc. that come into the country as well.  If you don’t believe me you can read up more on operations such as the Iran Contra affair.  This affair links the US to sales of weapons in Iran to training the contras in Nicaragua and the import of drugs from Mexico, done through CIA funding.  Who trained and funded Sadam Husein?  Sorry, but this country is responsible for a lot of stuff, then we don’t like it when people seek refuge here from the violence we are directly responsible for.   If you travel abroad, you will realize people really dislike Americans.  Why?  Because we’re on everyone’s business.

LB
LB

Besides, aren't we in the war agains terror?  Terror is just accross the border with all the drug cartels, what were we doing in IRAQ, Libya, Siria?  Are we going to help them because people are dying over there?  People are dying accross the border.  People are dying here in the US of hunger.  There are tons of homeless people, why don't we focus on our own home?  All these wars/conflicts, whatever you want to call them are only costing us $$$ we don't have.

LB
LB

So, help central-american countries fight the war on drugs and on drug cartels.  It's a win-win, the us and all other countries get rid of drugs and people stay in their countries. 

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