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James Cameron's Dive Down Mariana Trench Is an 'Ego-Driven Publicity Stunt,' Says Submarine Company

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James Cameron, drama queen.
In the great race between director James Cameron and British billionaire Richard Branson to the deepest point on the ocean floor, Cameron will get there first.

This, according to Bruce Jones, CEO of Triton Submarines (and subject of this excellent Broward-Palm Beach New Times cover story). Jones' Florida-based company has likewise been working on a vessel that could withstand the immense pressure at the bottom of the Mariana Trench -- but unlike Cameron and Branton's one-man submersibles, Triton is constructing a ship that could carry multiple passengers down and provide them full visibility of the wonders that be.

Triton Submarines has been in communication with Cameron's personal team of expensive engineers about their progress. When we interviewed Jones about a week ago, he said that without a doubt, Cameron would complete his mission "within two weeks."

A BBC News report today seems to confirm that prediction:

[Cameron] has just successfully completed a test-dive 8km (five miles) down off the coast of Papua New Guinea.

He now hopes to reach the world's deepest point in his one-man submersible in the coming weeks.

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Cameron's "Deepsea Challenge"
However, when we talked to Jones, he seemed confused as to why anyone cared.

"So what?" he said. "We went to the bottom of the trench already. [Cameron's] sub is half the vehicle that Trieste was. It's half the size, and it will take half the people with half the viewport."

Trieste was the submersible used in the first and only trip to Challenger Deep (a nickname for the lowest spot on the Earth's surface, that dark mysterious world at the bottom of the Pacific). She was manned by Navy Lieutenant Don Walsh and a Swiss co-pilot back in the 1960s.

The lieutenant, now 80 years old, has come out in support of Cameron's trip.

"Jim is a remarkable guy who's never trained as an engineer but has an intuitive grasp of engineering details that far surpasses a lot of the professionals I've known," Walsh previously told the Telegraph. And now, he says to BBC: I take no pride in the fact that no one has gone back in more than a half Century ... so I am very pleased that Mr Cameron's team is about to do this."

Jones isn't so impressed. "Yes, it's a return trip," he says. "But its not a return trip that anybody would want to take."

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Branson's "Virgin Oceanic"
The Triton Submarines CEO has seen Cameron's submersible, and describes it as "a spherical pressure hull that's only three feet in diameter."

The tall, lanky film director will be hunched into a three-foot space, peering through "a tiny little viewport, just inches in diameter," says Jones.

Cameron claims in the BBC piece that he'll be shooting 3D footage of the dive (of course) and collecting samples of lord-knows-what's-down-there for interested scientists. His trip is reportedly sponsored by National Geographic and Rolex.

This whole competition thing with Branson, the ambitious billionaire who owns the Virgin Group, was quite clearly "the construct of a PR firm," says Jones -- and Cameron's blue ribbon is an "ego-driven publicity stunt."

Branson's vessel is named Virgin Oceanic, and it will be housed right here in Newport Harbor.

Jones has even lower hopes for the Oceanic than Cameron's three-footer. He says that "in the hands of a guy who knows nothing about submersibles -- he's a real-estate guy," the Oceanic's design doesn't equip it for deep-sea survival.

Whoever wins, Eddie Kisfaludy, operations manager for the Virgin Oceanic, argues that the first man to conquer the Mariana Trench in the 21st century will indeed be making history.

In 1960, he says, Trieste used "massive containers of fuel" and "big clunky balloons of air funded by the U.S. Navy." Kisfaludy says that a modern, streamlined repeat will do "what Apollo 11 did for the space program" -- namely, "get the world more interested and invested in the deep sea. It's the largest environment on our planet, and the one we know least about."

But engineers at Triton Submarines see the real goal as constructing a ship with 360-degree views that can shuttle scientists and tourists down the trench 365 days per year.

Triton is currently working on one such vessel, though the company is not participating in said PR scramble. Jones estimates that the company's own Mariana diver will be ready in about 18 months. (At $250,000 a ticket, according to BBC.)

"We want to have a long-term effect on man's relationship with the ocean," says Jones.

[@simone_electra / swilson@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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Danielle Russell
Danielle Russell

He's down there right now. I wonder what he's seeing. I think it would be so cool to just sit at the bottom of the ocean and turn your lights off so you are just surrounded by darkness and the vast openness of the ocean. Would be a surreal experience.

zez
zez

looks like the guy with no knowledge of how submarines work, did it

Karl Stanley
Karl Stanley

This is what really happened from the perspective of someone else in the industry- while Bruce Jones was busy running his mouth and making websites like race2innerspace  - James Cameron was assembling a team of experts, getting Nat Geo on board and working tirelessly on the other side of the world and staying off the radar.  Now that Cameron has unveiled his machine and is about to snatch the record, Jones says it is a publicity stunt and doesn't matter.  HA HA AHA-  he was the one who first called it a race ! and to top it off Jones is now copying Cameron's design and going vertical- if he had any class at all he would say "Well done sir and thank you for the inspiration."

Fu-sv
Fu-sv

sounds like a whiny bitch. the man wants to go, so he did. good for him. i'd like to see the 3d movie of it.

Miksit29
Miksit29

Most everything grossly rich people do publically is for their ego. Dont be so jealous geesh. And for the guy acting like his sub was better because he will take people down the trench 365 days a year @ $250,000 a pop, uh yeah that is egotistical. The people who make your fortune cant afford this trip. Is it really any great discovery if the only people who can enjoy it are the 1%. this article and the people involved are rude and egotistical. It shouldnt be a race or a competition, thats when people get hurt.

Webwrights
Webwrights

I find it thrilling that someone has got it all together to commission the craft to return to the bottom of the trench, more than 50 years after Trieste's abbreviated visit. That it is to be properly equipped with cameras, and is designed for extended bottom-time, makes the project all the more exciting.

It's a disgrace that billions have been thown at space programmes (by the US, the USSR/Russians, the Chinese and all the other investing and experimenting nations), yet not a fraction of that has been spent on deep ocean research.

James Cameron and Richard Branson are both, above all, visionaries. They are using their wealth to extend our boundaries of knowledge, technical expertise and excitement, because our miserable, grey, hidebound governments won't do it. So, hats off to them for having the guts and the money to achieve this. We don't condemn 'egotistical' athletes or artists, because they extend the boundaries of what is possible in physical endeavour and artistic accomplishment.

If James Cameron comes back to the surface with masses of usable footage of what he sees down there, it will be a significant advance for us all. If seats are available to go deep with Richard Branson, I would grab that opportunity with both hands long before I would contemplate going into space with him on Virgin Galactic. The oceans are 70% of the planet's surface, and we have explored so pitifully little of it. I think the next few weeks are going to be really exciting.

Webwrights
Webwrights

Trieste "was manned by Navy Lieutenant Don Walsh and a Swiss co-pilot back in the 1960s".

Oh really? Credit where credit is due, please, and give the pioneer the dignity of a name-check. Trieste was manned by Don Walsh and Jacques Piccard, the son of the man (Auguste) who designed her. It was built by the Italians. The US Navy only bought the bathyscaphe after Jacques had operated it successfully for 5 years under the auspices of the French Navy.

Jacques Piccard was the pilot, and Don Walsh the co-pilot. You can bet your life that, if he hadn't died in 2008, Jacques would be in Guam this year, with Don Walsh, to celebrate James Cameron's venture. 

Fu-sv
Fu-sv

its a blog so we shouldnt expect journalistic integrity..if it still exists

proud Aussie
proud Aussie

Jones sounds like he's got a bad case of sour grapes, he's missed the boat so to speak, as his dome keeps cracking.. poo hoo  and good on cameron  who has a great iinformative website, and appears to be trying to foster education in the deep. In todays world we need positive thinkers, doing positive things, not sore losers.Triton has been putting articles out there for weeks riding of Cameron's shirt tails showing off his brand, so he's really calling the cattle black!   A proud Aussie (wages for engineers  here are not as good as in the states!)

Anonymous
Anonymous

Jones sounds like an even bigger dickhead than Cameron.

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