Ying Wu, Ming Qu Murdered in BMW: Some in China Blame USC Grad Students for 'Showing off Their Wealth'

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ming qu and ying wu.jpg
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Wu, left, was from China's northeastern Jilin province. Qu was from the central Hunan province.
While hundreds of USC students and staff gathered at the Tommy Trojan statue last night to pay their respects to Ying Wu and Ming Qu -- the electrical-engineering grad students murdered early Wednesday morning -- a debate raged on Chinese news sites and comment boards over whether Wu and Qu were asking to get shot.

They were sitting in a used BMW worth $10,000 that had recently been purchased by Qu, according to their friend Deng Kaifu...

... who has reportedly been posting rebuttals to the critics on Chinese social-networking site RenRen.com.

LAPD investigators think the unknown assailant, who's still on the loose, may have been trying to steal the BMW or otherwise rob the students.

According to the Los Angeles Times, this was the news headline on Chinese website 4735.com: "Two Chinese students were killed in Los Angeles because of showing off their wealth in a BMW."

Other reports indicate that many Chinese citizens -- under the protective cloak of Internet anonymity, of course -- have taken a similar victim-blaming stance. On the forum Eastbound88.com, a user called "lite" says this "anti-rich people" attitude has become quite common:

"you should read the comment section in the chinese news about this story. those netizens had no sympathy towards the victims. they said the victims were shot dead in a BMW, so they must be son and daughter of corrupt officials or crooked business people. there is something seriously wrong with the chinese public right now. people have bad morals and turned very anti-govnernment, anti-rich people, especially hatred towards government officials. every time an official dead either due to accident or murder, people would cheer in the comment section about the death."

Caixun.com, another Chinese site with a news-magazine feel, also ran a reaction piece today on the hateful comments.

Here is a (very rough) translation by Google:

"... many users gave two students labeled 'official second generation' second generation 'label, and issued a vulgar remarks. One from 'I wish to die rich second or official second generation of mobile phone users in Beijing, my hatred of official hatred of the rich, because they are beasts of the offspring, because they are heartless, official error ...' We can not 'My dad is the Gang,' 'My father is Li Shuangjiang these events, the' official second generation 'rich' a stick and killed."

It would appear that resentment is soaring, in the Communist country, toward families that are wealthy enough to send their kids to top American universities and try their luck at capitalism.

bmw ming qu.jpg
Qu's controversial car.
Another user at Eastbound88.com compares it to resentment within the U.S. -- and all over the world, really, as the global economy downward-spirals out of control -- toward the 1 percent.

Aka, Occupy Wall Street.

In China in particular, though -- home to the poorest of the poor -- the Times reports that "luxury cars have become a political issue ... because so many officials of the ruling Communist Party and their children drive expensive models."

In this case, the anger might be misguided. Wu was living in a cheap apartment at "gang-infested" Raymond and 27th -- a contributing factor to the 1 a.m. street shooting. And as their friend Deng Kaifu points out, Qu "did not buy a car in the first two years of studying until ... this term for the purpose of looking for a job." (Anyone familiar with L.A. knows job-hunting can be pretty impossible without a car.)

"I plead to all Chinese to stop the rumors about them," writes Kaifu. "Since coming to the United States, they have lived a very thrifty life."

The interesting part is that he should have to defend the BMW at all. We will say, though, that this resentful attitude isn't relegated to China. We've heard our fair share of gripes from bitter Angelenos, as well, who claim some foreign-exchange students flaunt their wealth and social standing while attending universities here, like they're Asia's gift to the U.S.

But that really has nothing to do with the tragic double homicide of Wu and Qu, who perhaps didn't know how dangerous living west of Vermont can be -- and who by all accounts were a humble, quiet couple returning in the wee hours of Wednesday morning from a late night at the lab.

R.I.P.

[@simone_electra / swilson@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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Guest
Guest

Under chinese culture, all parents want to devote everything to their kids, even if themselves are not in wealth. I do admit the phenomena of "the official/rich second generation", however, some parents sent their kids aboard are expecting those young people can have a more brilliant future than themselves. Image How helpless and desperate they would be when they got the news of their kids'death.

Alejandro
Alejandro

Sorry to say this but as a South American who lived in US and now living in China, I think I have the right to explain that many "second generation" (富二代, Fu er Dai, Rich people second generation) children go to the US without doing any homework, and by that I mean they go to LA thinking it's like a movie. I don't know 'bout these two(RIP), but over here in China these kids just love to show off their wealth to everyone, when they actually represent only the 15% of china's total population. On one side, in china the rich are getting richer and the poor, poorer. so this kind of hatred towards them is absolutely  justified since all these other kids who don't have these luxury lives have to see their parents die because they can't afford the over-the-clouds fees the hospitals and health services demand. And on the other side, most of the chinese overseas students are kids who -through corruption- work their way around migration services (both in china and US) and go abroad without having the slightest clue where they're heading. gotta be either stupid or naive... or maybe both. China is quite safe in terms of armed robberies and they don't have a clue about drive-by's/murdered for a few bucks and all those kinds of stuff we have from US down to Argentina and Chile. I'm sorry for those kids, really, because they went from untouchable luxury-living in china to showing-off at gang infested Raymond and 27th. Proof we westeners still get a better education, both from schools and our families. Ladies and gentlemen you should know the "think outside the box" concept has not been implemented in china yet. Nor stimulating families to educate their own children and not  totally depend  on 3 subjects (math, english and chinese) schools for 18 years in a role and then send them to Los Angeles California.

eateateatshoe
eateateatshoe

YOU PEOPLE should stop claiming this as racist! You people always pull the race card. No one is racist against the japs! There is no such thing as racism! All is an illusion!

sean
sean

I have lived and worked in this area for two decades and never  had ANY issues. Fell perfectly safe to park my car on the street. So those of you saying it the worst area are just not informed. This was a terrible occurrence and could have, and has happened in Westwood, a very wealthy 'hood.

Emstorages
Emstorages

I USED to live near USC campus for 3yrs. i kno how shtty the area is... those two students didnt. Im pretty sure the killer is Mexi can.

Skyway420
Skyway420

STAND YOUR GROUND!!!!  Where is George Zimmerman when you need him????  More than 3 blocks from USC you are most certainly on you own.  Time for individuals to patrol their own neighborhoods just like George Zimmerman.  The police won't do a damn thing other then to concentrate on their retirement benefits and shooting unarmed suspects because they get a paid vacation to shoot.  Sh...t I would shoot too every chance I get if the result is a paid leave.

eateateatshoe
eateateatshoe

The killer just like George Zimmerman was probably standing his ground too! The killer had a gun and had to shoot the two students sitting in the car, just like George Zimmerman had a gun and had to shoot a child walking to go home. People like Trayvon Martin, Ying Wu, and Ming Qu are threats and had to be put down! STAND YOUR GROUND!!!!

Emstorages
Emstorages

i live between Orchard ave and Venice... my car got broke into, stolen license plate... and a lot of sht. bad area. You have to live in LA long enough to know. too bad for the two. RIP.

328la
328la

The Chinese government would round everyone up in that "gang infested" neighborhood and shoot them in the back of the head.   

10000 reasons you're wrong
10000 reasons you're wrong

The headline should be: "Some in China Fall for Racist Press Coverage of USC Murders".It's pretty clear the LA Weekly wants to keep pushing the lie that 2 rich asian kids flaunting their money invited their own deaths. Not to mention the giant BMW logo as the link on the home page or the coy direct-statement-made-innocent-by-a-trailing-question-mark crap as the link. These murders have NOTHING to do with the 1% or the state of society in China as discussed above. The racist local press created this lie and Chinese internet readers fell for it. Now you're pointing back at that as justification? You've got to be kidding me.

Malacorazon
Malacorazon

leave it to commies to believe 10G is a lot. if they want to be like us they should find out right away "that a rich mans son goes to college a poor mans son goes to war"

flipjones
flipjones

omigod. no man. the first false reports were that the car was a "brand new luxury BMW" and a "newer-model BMW was worth $45,000." that's what they read and based their opinions on. this whole thing is a case of a lying racist sensationalist press trying to spin a story and shape public opinion. don't fall for it.

The Wolf
The Wolf

I left Los Angeles Last Year,. I lived in the Palms, for 2 1/2 yrs,. 762 Murders within 5 miles of my residence,. In the down turn Los Angeles has become the killing fields of California,.Time to Leave,. Really,.

Malacorazon
Malacorazon

when you got po po murdering people who is going to fix that.  25% of people killed just by the sheriffs office were  unarmed and were not close enoughto threaten piggie."If a king kills the ministers will steal"

zero
zero

the angry is the seed, and it can be spread anywhere in the world. that is nothing we can control what people think, talk, and their action. as a chinese, people in China always think the Chinese in other countries are rich. somehow, so many chinese people join the arm forces, working with a low salary, and etc. they just working harder than used to be in China. 

in the god's eyes we are the same creature. it is nothing different between chinese, american, and etc. hope these two victims can RIP, and people stop rumoring the wrong information.   

No
No

make no sense.

JF
JF

12 April 2012

Fairbank: USC President MUST Resign!

The Fairbank Report's senior editor, Jonathan Fairbank, today calls on Max Nikias, President of the University of Southern California (USC), to resign in the wake of the assassination of two Mainland Chinese graduate students on April 11, 2012.

USC administrators are complicit in their murders because they have miserably failed to provide these students with adequate security, according to Mr. Fairbank.  On the other hand, USC had no problem accepting the students' exhorbitant tuition fees.

King of masks
King of masks

Less than 24 hours after the assassination of TWO Chinese students at USC, the University's website removed all mention of their murders.

Two young flowers in the Spring of their lives are shot to death, and USC acts as if nothing has happened.  One can't help but wonder whether USC administrators would react so indifferently if the victims were black, Hispanic or white?!

Shame on you Max Nikias.  Shame on you, USC.

oimui
oimui

This is such a tragedy.  Loss of two beautiful and intelligent young people in their prime.  As a parent and grandparent, I cannot imagine experiencing this.  Chinese saying goes, one of the greatest pain is for a white haired person saying goodbye to a black haired person.  The pain is real. Let's avoid passing judgment of any kind.  Bad taste .  Perhaps we can honor their lives later on and come together as a community to prevent such horrific violence.

American't
American't

americano news reported that Ming Qu and Ying Wu were in a "$60,000.00 BMW", which is completely false, and all the chinasmack and US State department funded Tang Dynasty news channels and other anti-Communist China propaganda media-manipulators were hot on the idea that the "fuerdai" (kids of rich/powerful people) were asking to be killed. stupid american'ts please.......... these are students are from middle-low income families! stop seeking disgusting chinese political asylum users and dissidents for information on chinese culture and news!

Guest
Guest

Wait -- the LA Weekly does not have anybody who actually speaks Chinese?  What's the deal with using Google Translate?

ed209
ed209

Well of course they think that in China. That's exactly how the story was reported by racist news outlets in the states.

cs
cs

Media types are worthless, including LA Weekly. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Haotianh
Haotianh

As a Chinese, I should mention a mistake of the two's places in the comment below their picture...

Jingariel
Jingariel

The title is totally misleading. It is nothing about "showing off" wealth, but life!

Rachel21
Rachel21

This is most likely because the news reports coming out of the U.S. media painted exactly that picture of the victims flaunting their wealth. That's the distorted story they got. Asians outside of the U.S. haven't experienced the American brand of racism so they won't imagine that news here is manufactured with an anti-Chinese or anti-Asian bias which it generally is.

Filippialessio
Filippialessio

Would focus on their background, life in L.A., Chinese community, hate/passion crime.

ronnie
ronnie

the Chinese are educated in American schools, then return to China to use their knowledge to destroy America

American't
American't

this may become a trend as the truth is increasingly revealed.

ronnie
ronnie

The Chinese are educated in the U.S.A. then return to China to use their knowledge to destroy America ! Makes sense, doesn't it ?

Asd
Asd

trust me, they are definitely not here to get any more valued education, because academically they are already the most outstanding students almost in all schools, they are here because many other reasons. so no worries. as with people, it is same for any country: if anyone could destroy America, it is its own people... just look at how greedy we have become that caused the disaster at Wall Street and the hurt it brought to almost all Americans.

Djmachineart
Djmachineart

They come here because of the advanced technology and learning in the programs. Also, the opportunities to perform research for the value of pure research with distinguished professors. People need to stop overthinking the reasons for why international students come here.

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Rabbi_Pedro_Goldstein
Rabbi_Pedro_Goldstein

2 rich little arrogant USC Chinks get wacked....... Who cares

Filippialessio
Filippialessio

Right, so rich that they were renting a cheap room in west Adams in a gang infested neighborhood.  You certainly make a lot of sense.  Good thinking!

Emstorages
Emstorages

DO YOU have college degree at all??

Malacorazon
Malacorazon

lots of people live a little tougher than you to have a good dependable car.  so what?

youmakenosense
youmakenosense

 get a life... if they are as rich as you think they are...they would be living in a hotel and already have cars, limousines...maybe a couple thousand security gaurds.

Guest
Guest

you are a fucking ignorant dumbass.... i hope you rot in hell

Guest
Guest

comparing to those 2 promising young students you are just a waste of air.

Chinese
Chinese

you are toally a bitch. you know nothing about China, and their lives.

Guest
Guest

The victims’ friend blogged to protest rumors: http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog...

1. Both victims led a thrifty life by respectively co-renting with others. The girl chose to live in an unsafe area to save money.

2. The car was a second-hand BMW recently purchased by the male student because he was near graduation and looking for jobs. The car has a temporary license plate, so it’s often misinterpreted as a new car. The girl did not have a car. 3. The tragedy occurred at 1 AM on Apr. 11, because the girl just finished an experiment in the lab. The guy was driving her home when the tragedy occurred.

Hank Rearden
Hank Rearden

"We've heard our fair share of gripes from bitter Angelenos, as well, who claim some foreign-exchange students flaunt their wealth and social standing while attending universities here."These two foreign exchange students who were studying electrical engineering would have contributed more to society than 100 of these bitter Angelenos.

Streets
Streets

Yup, they were indeed headed toward employing you're children, as they were allowed to take you're childrens place in an American college.

Guest
Guest

You should try going to college...would help you learn the difference between "you're" and "your."  

Ultimatebandgirl
Ultimatebandgirl

I think the students didn't know enough about LA gangs and how rough that neighborhood they were living in was.

Barry Solomon
Barry Solomon

 I could not agree more with Untimatebandgirl. She is right on target. I have worked as a government ( Medi-Cal) consultant in that area and I have reached the conclusion that we should have signs in areas such as where the murder took place that is in Spanish, Chinese and maybe for a few of us, English as well...making it clear that BMW or VWyou should not be sitting around anytime.

silvie
silvie

come on. stop blaming the victims for being ignorant. first it was being foolishly flashy, now it's being foolishly unaware of the neighborhood. just freaking stop it. they got held up at gunpoint beyond their control. period.

Yj
Yj

This does not justify the murder. They had to live there because they didn't have enough money to live in somewhere better. Even if they knew, what could they do? They were in a car and got shot. Who could imagine that? An do you know how hard it is for non-citizens to buy guns to protect themselves?

Oslodude
Oslodude

I agree with you that it is disgusting that LA Weekly could blame it on a few chinese anonymous Internet comments, especially since it was in fact LAWeekly and KTLA and LATimes that spread false rumors about them driving an expensive car.

However, they are wealthy enough to pay the crazy-expensive tuition (foreigners do not qualify for US government-backed student aid). They are wise in believing that their education is a wise investment in their future. Hopefully future students will also perceive it a wise investment to get housing in the safe part of town (either within 3 blocks north of campus, or out at the beach/West L.A.

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