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'Sons of Anarchy' Pisses off L.A. Street Artists by Allegedly Painting Over New Downtown Mural

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@Saber via Twitter
She was a beauty.
Updated at the bottom: Sons of Anarchy producer Kurt Sutter says his show had nothing to do with the take-down. Our headline has been revised to reflect this claim.

Someone just painted over a mural that went up at Willow and Santa Fe in downtown Los Angeles only one-and-a-half months ago.

It was painted by street artists Zes, Push and UGLAR on the side of a building adjacent to the graffiti-themed LALA Gallery, apparently in celebration of the gallery's opening.

But now it's gone. And according to big-name L.A. graffer Saber, the culprit is Kurt Sutter, writer/producer/director of Sons of Anarchy, that FX show about a motorcycle gang in the Central Valley.

"It's funny how these TV directors come into a neighborhood, steal the art imagery, destroy other works then move on leaving a pile of shit," writes Saber today. Some more chronicles in his epic Twitter rant:

Ironically, the mural was erected as part of the L.A. Freewalls project, started to combat the city's decade-long mural moratorium. Saber in particular has lobbied relentlessly -- and creatively -- for a new mural ordinance that would allow Los Angeles to regain its title as mural capital of the world.

Now, in addition to battling billboard companies and City Hall officials for public art space (along with the occasional "Peace in Congo" charity worker), it appears street-art defenders must also keep an eye out for disrespectful Hollywood execs with paint rollers.

The depressing before-and-after shots, courtesy of @Saber:

downtown mural before.jpg
"Here you go folks.... ZES PUSH UGLAR MURAL before @sutterink decided to pay to destroy it..."
downtown mural after.jpg
"Here is what the ZES mural looks like now. @sutterink PAYS TO DESTROY PUBLIC #ART IN LA FOR TV SHOW"
We've contacted Sutter to see if it was really him who commissioned the take-down -- and if so, why he chose that particular wall.

A wall on which, as we're painfully reminded by 12ozProphet, four of L.A.'s finest artists spent days meshing their signature styles into a "massive collaborative" masterpiece.

More on the L.A. Freewalls project, and the gallery that sits alongside the wall of conflict:

Update No. 1: Sons of Anarchy producer Kurt Sutter says: "I assure you this was not SOA or OUTLAW EMPIRES. considering you're using assassinating me in a headline, isn't it a good idea to check the validity of your source? i understand that @saber is upset and looking for someone to blame. i'd be livid if someone defaced my work. but SOA isn't even in production yet and i checked with OE team, we never shot in that location, nor would we blatantly deface artwork."

Our headline has been revised to reflect this claim. It used to read, "'Sons of Anarchy' Producer Pisses off L.A. Street Artists by Painting Over New Downtown Mural.' We'll continue to investigate what happened to the piece.

Update No. 2: Sutter adds, "@LAWeekly the wall is purple on google earth too... fuck, i think you and @saber are totally fucking playing me to bring attention to FREE WALLS http://vimeo.com/39229810 . and i'm okay with that, at least your a cunt with a cause. i'm kurt sutter and i endorse this libelous abuse." He still has not responded to our request for comment.

Update No. 3: LALA Gallery founder Daniel Lahoda says he cannot confirm who, exactly, painted over the mural.

However, he says that his landlord, who also owns the building next door, did sell its outer wall space to a film production company. Lahoda just hasn't been able to figure out which production company, and doesn't know where Saber got his information.

According to Lahoda, some of Saber's animosity toward Sutter is stemming from a dispute that arose when Sons of Anarchy filmed last year's finale in front of various street-art pieces at Third Street and Traction Avenue downtown.

"Because the art is of a recognizable quality, the production companies will come in and exploit them," says Lahoda. Lately, the gallery director has found himself navigating the uncharted legal territory of crediting (or not crediting) street artists whose work is featured prominently in movies and TV shows.

And Sutter, says Lahoda, "has a history" of not asking for a release of L.A. street artists' material before using it as a backdrop.

Update No. 4: Saber, who's apparently delighting in this "cunts with a cause" business, says he got his information from "someone close to the owner of the building."

So this whole flamewar could have been launched from a bunch of hearsay. We're waiting on a call back from Film L.A. to find out more about the filming schedule at Willow and Santa Fe.

[@simone_electra / swilson@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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kesarchlegna
kesarchlegna

I Find it funny when Film companies and advertising companies hire street artist to do their slanderous work, and then have the public officials and other money driven companies talk about how street artist are doing nothing but Littering the streets and vandalizing. First they give us the work and then they put us in jail. But I mean , I guess its the way it goes. If you cant make them money then they dont want you on their land. Fuck human creativity and Forms of expression. Its all about making that all mighty dollar.

Helena Hanbaskett
Helena Hanbaskett

WHO is "WE ALL"???? And who is "he"??? How do you know ANYTHING? Oh, yeah, you DON'T... 

Brutal
Brutal

So it's a crime for someone to sell their wall to a production company?  "However, he says that his landlord, who also owns the building next door, did sell its outer wall space to a film production company. " The owner sold the right to paint the wall. Yes as fuck up as it is, he had the right to do it as well as the production company had the right to paint over it. That is one danger with street art, you don't own it unless it;s your building.

RyanReneRose
RyanReneRose

Are you supposed to be some kind of "reporter"? Cause if so, you suck. Dont get your information after the fact idiot. Why would you even run this story without knowing everything? Oh wait its because you wanted to drop Kurt Sutters name and Sons of Anarchy and see what kind of attention you could get. Wow. 

charlie_oscar
charlie_oscar

SOA...Reebok biker dewshbags with a script that is way over written...20lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag.

Staterail69
Staterail69

Always find it amusing when street artists cry over their work been covered up. Always sounds hypocritical.

Kyle
Kyle

That's me tweeting to that feminine hygiene product Saber! Since that's unauthorized use of my tweet, does that mean I can throw a hissy fit? 

Shug
Shug

"And Sutter, says Lahoda, "has a history" of not asking for a release of L.A. street artists' material before using it as a backdrop. "

Street art is public art so by definition is free if you want credit or paid for it put it on a canvas and stick it in a gallery.

Vvesp
Vvesp

So, "street" artists want credit for their work?  Sorry, but having the art out in public, creating it in public, most times on public property pretty much means that it is public property.  Get over it "Saber". 

Leslie Wilson
Leslie Wilson

Types of SLAPPsSLAPP suits come in many forms. Some of the common claims asserted in SLAPPs include:Defamation: Defamation is the term for a legal claim involving injury to reputation caused by false statements of fact and includes both libel (typically written or recorded statements) and slander (typically spoken statements). Defamation is the most common basis for a SLAPP suit. An individual or organization might file a defamation lawsuit in reaction to criticism or negative commentary published on- or offline, such as in a blog post, news report, letter to the editor, or speech at a public meeting, just to name a few. For more information, see theDefamation section.

California Elements of DefamationDefamation, which consists of both libel and slander, is defined by case law and statute in California. See Cal. Civ. Code §§ 44, 45a, and 46.The elements of a defamation claim are:publication of a statement of factthat is false,*unprivileged,has a natural tendency to injure or which causes "special damage," andthe defendant's fault in publishing the statement amounted to at least negligence.

Aprocks
Aprocks

Is it so wrong the artists who spend days upon days creating these beautiful works asked to be credited? Is it wrong that they are upset their mural was destroyed? These artists are creating these murals to help LA return to its artistic greatness, funny how not one of you see that side of it. You are so upset because the director of your favorite show was fingered as the person responsible. Saber himself said "Kurt Sutter, director of Son’s Of Anarchy, has responded claiming his “brand/production” was not involved with the destruction of Zes, Push, and Ugler’s mural. If this is so then I have NO problem issuing him a public apology. " 

And just because Sutter said he had no part in this, does not mean it is actually true, i mean come on! this guy is the director of fiction. You guys must be the same people who believed Iraq had WMD's just because Bush said they did. 

MissJamrock
MissJamrock

No I do see it; and Im not coming from a pro-Sutter standpoint; Im a fan of art, and Ive followed Sabers for awhile, and been a fan of alot of LA street artists for some time. Thats why Im really peeved over the response; I do not believe that bullying, without facts, is a good look. He's a legitimate artist, but his twitter rants are making him look more like, well, a little kid who runs around spraying painting and whining. Hes being a bully, and he cant back it up. This is why some people need to have twitter taken away from them. And its funny, hes not even the artist of the mural! Whatever the circumstances are behind the removal, its safe to say there are alot more politics and people behind it then Big Bad Sutter is responsible.

Leslie Wilson
Leslie Wilson

You're comparing someone saying they did or did not paint a wall to someone saying a country has weapons hahaha GTFO Yes we understand a piece of art was destroyed but don't print an article claiming someone did it without even confirming it first! Aren't "journalists" supposed to fact check stories BEFORE they try to sling someones name through the mud???

Morpheus
Morpheus

Changing the title isn't enough. Remove Sutter, and anything to do with him, altogether. Furthermore, issue a public apology.You're the ones who look like pieces of shit in this case, not Sutter.

MissJamrock
MissJamrock

As much as I love street art as a phenomenon, its exactly that- its on the street. You cant be horrified someone eventually painted over it., and you should be fucking happy someone ever even filmed it in the first place (in response to Saber allegedly being angry for "unauthorized use" in prior film endeavors) Did they pay for that wall for a particular amount of time? Then its understandable. No? It wasnt even their wall to begin with, but someone elses, and HE sold it off to be painted?? Probably. Fuck you Saber; I feel sorry for you old bitter ass. 

JamesK
JamesK

Agreed. And "unauthorized use" is a complete joke. If you're putting stuff out there in the public that's exactly what it is, public. I don't think the artists behind the Hollywood Sign, Mount Rushmore, the Golden Gate Bridge or the Statue of Liberty have ever thrown a hissy fit over their work. If you're so worried about protecting your work or making money off of it, sell it in a gallery or paint it on the inside of a wall and charge people to come in to see it. Or, you know, just admit your not getting the publicity you want from a huge audience because it's pretty obvious that's what this is about.

Mandiscoob
Mandiscoob

Sabers a fool, and this article was initially printed presumptuously, just like his assumptions, but at least its been followed up with info. Ive been a fairly big fan of Sabers work, and many other local street artists, for a while, and this has just left a bad taste in my mouth. After following Sabers childish, bullying tweets that were not once followed by actual evidence, Ive lost respect for him. He is giving "street art" a poor name, and attempting to gain followers on his bandwagon without really providing reasons why. Youre not a "rebel artist" cause you throw accusations and insults around; you're ignorant. Furthermore, I wouldnt fuck w/ Sutter, a legitimate filmaker, when you are.. an aging "rebel" w/ your flame dimming rapidly. 

Kyle
Kyle

According to @Saber, his proof is that he heard something from a "friend of the owner of the building". So his "proof" for his slander is a second hand source. No facts, no documentation, hasn't even talked to the guy who actually owns the wall. Which is another thing, Saber or the other artists don't even own the wall! 

Lulzhatyou
Lulzhatyou

Headline is still misleading.  You have zero proof and a source not providing any proof.  Story should be pulled imho.

Fan and Lover of ther Arts
Fan and Lover of ther Arts

The fact that one would just jump to conclusions and blame, libel and slander someone so much on in social media with no facts is really sick! Art is art and shouldn't be destroyed however if a production company purchases a space that was a previous mural that was not paid for by you, unfortunately I think they need to be taking that up with the gallery and should be careful of who they slander as next time they may not be 'a cunt with a cause' but may have a lawsuit on their hands ...

Bcroy
Bcroy

Who gives a fuck? If Sutter didn't do it you should be more careful about the bullshit you're putting out. And as for street art being exploited in television or film - its STREET ART. It's not private, its a public defacing of others property as a means of often wonderful, community based perspective but to think permission is needed is rediculous. Get over yourselves... And next time check your fucking sources ya hack.

Gabriella Delia
Gabriella Delia

Sons of Anarchy' Producer Pisses off L.A. Street Artists by Painting Over New Downtown Mural" .. "We've contacted Sutter to see if it was really him who commissioned the take-down" Thanks for clarifying that you're checking the facts AFTER you slam Sutter. Idiot!

Frauchica
Frauchica

Recoginizable art....seriously man? I promise you nobody is even paying that much attention to your wall scrawls. You're lucky the city even lets you do it. Shameless self promotion.

Johnnytwotimes
Johnnytwotimes

we all know he did it.  he has do deny it now cause all of LA is about to come down on him and his show.

Kyle
Kyle

No they won't. I'm a SoCal resident and I've never even heard of Saber until now. And I'm betting I'm not the only one. But I'm guessing Saber has gotten the attention he so desperately wanted now.

Pbdesantis
Pbdesantis

You start by blaming an innocent person , then near the end of the trash you call an article , you state that the OWNER of the wall leased the rights to said wall (not to you ). Here's an idea , it's kinda far fetched but here goes , Don't paint on walls you don't own the rights to . If you do and it get taken down wait till you know ALL the facts before you hurl accusations .

RUSeriousbro?
RUSeriousbro?

Ok, shouldn't Lahoda and Saber be pissed and taking it out on Lahoda's landlord and NOT Sutter???  Seems to me that it's the landlords fault for selling the space in the first place. Again....you really, really, really need to check facts BEFORE HAND.  WTF...seriously...WTF???? 

Amp0511
Amp0511

"It must of been that damn outlaw hoodlum bikey gang show people"......fuck you @saber!!!!

guest
guest

so you added "ALLEGEDLY" ya thats changing your headline asshole. Im sure if Kurt Sutter really painted over the mural he would've chose something better than red and purple...come on go get your ten minutes of fame somewhere else dont bring kurt sutter into your mess.

Kurtpopp
Kurtpopp

if you dont want you crappy paintings show on a tv show, here's a thought... do your graffiti in Delaware. and if you cant bitch about a wall getting painted over if you dont own the wall.

RUSeriousbro?
RUSeriousbro?

Sutter has responded TWICE, yet you still stay he hasn't commented?????  1. You need to change your headline. 2. You need to check your facts BEFORE accusing some one of defacing art. I hope Sutter sues.

Kyle
Kyle

Simone Wilson should be fired for this story. No fact checking at all. And Mr. Sutter responded to the frivolous accusation. Stop being mad that he didn't respond to you personally. With garbage like this, no wonder print media is dead. And based on the colors on the wall, and how they have nothing to do with Mr. Sutter's shows, I'm starting to think Saber did this himself and is now looking for attention and publicity for that LA Free Walls crap. And LA Weekly is aiding in the slander.

T Gabrieljr
T Gabrieljr

If I were mr. Sutter if find my budget for SOA by nailing your asses to the wall for public display. Just another asshat geasping for headlines. It sucks that someone defaced the mural it was great. The paper shoukd comish those guys to do another work and pay outa pocket.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The 'after' shot looks much better anyway

N.B.
N.B.

Hey guys hate to break it to you but umm that *is* him commenting...are you seriously upset he didn't call you personally?PS: you still haven't updated the title...in case you forgot...

Dyscrasy
Dyscrasy

So Kurt comes in and destroys your art? He pays to take down a masterpiece? All I can say   is I live in a town that the show is filmed in regularly and the show has created more jobs for hard working americans when they start production than any graffiti on the side of a wall has. I would rather have the kurt filming here any day than these so called artists who will blindly accuse people of destroying their work. These remind me of the same people that b**ch and complain that "their" work was cover up on the side of the target building. Im sorry. I didn't know you owned the target wall. Oh thats right, YOU DON'T. I'm not saying the artist didn't have the permission to puts this painting on the wall. Just that he doesn't have the right to accuse someone based on what he heard from someone else.

Mike
Mike

Guess when you are only known as your 'tagg' moniker, you just guess as to who to blame for painting over shyte.  Sutter is the type of director who would focus on such talented murals, not deface them.  guess 'saber' felt like waving his junk at someone famous.....tho to me, sounds libelous and defamatory.

Gabriella Delia
Gabriella Delia

"Sons of Anarchy' Producer Pisses off L.A. Street Artists by Painting Over New Downtown Mural" .. "We've contacted Sutter to see if it was really him who commissioned the take-down" Thanks for clarifying that you're checking the facts AFTER you slam Sutter. Idiot!

Steve
Steve

lol it if it was sutter i think he did the world a favor. that shit is ugly as shit. the artist shoud be dragged out in the street and curb stomped by SOA 

hmcby
hmcby

First I am a supporter of art and Murals, I love them, but that mural Sucked and the wall looks better now then with the mural it had. Oh and check your sources and provide proof before making a name for yourself by choosing a VERY popular show to blame.

Heather RevRizz Goldstein
Heather RevRizz Goldstein

Wow dude you have some balls to blame Sutter. I bet you feel like a real ass now knowing that he had nothing to do with it. Fire your fact checker and apologize to Kurt. You just pissed off a lot of fans.

Heather RevRizz Goldstein
Heather RevRizz Goldstein

Wow you have some balls to blame Sutter.I hope you feel like an ass now knowing that he had nothing to do with it. Fire your fact checker and apologize to Kurt. 

N.B.
N.B.

Interesting that your update says the article title will be revised...yet it hasn't been... seems that could have been done the same time the update was posted....?

Bahaha
Bahaha

Looks like LA Weekly is also being slanderous to sutterink. I can think of a lot of different titles to add to this story instead of using the accusations in which they obviously seem to agree with. hmmm

Jalene Bay-Palmatier
Jalene Bay-Palmatier

I'll take all the credit you can post a story saying I painted over it cause it was trashy:) Thanks in advance.

Green14
Green14

So if I say the Pope painted it over you'll just believe me too?

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