8.6 Quake Possible in Southern California? Caltech Suggests New 'Mega-Earthquake'

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In recent years, scientists, first responders and utilities have been preparing for "The Big One," that inevitable quake that will rock Southern California to its core. It's coming. For sure. They just don't know when.

But the U.S. Geological Survey and Caltech have been on the ball, working from a likely scenario, a simulated "Shakeout" (see video after the jump) that would have a 7.8 quake hitting greater L.A. It would be deadly, destructive and put us in the dark for days, if not weeks.

Unfortunately, a 7.8 might now be too low of an estimate for The Big One:


Caltech researchers looked at Sumatra's April 11 8.6 earthquake and concluded -- maybe -- that a similar temblor could happen along the same San Andreas fault that will produce our Big One.

Make that a possible Bigger One.

Scientists said the Indonesian rocker was larger than they ever thought such a quake "could be," according to Caltech. It was a "intraplate strike-slip quake," similar to what would happen at San Andreas, where much of California, from Baja to San Francisco, is moving north as the rest of America moves south.

In Sumatra, scientists found that this was not only the biggest strike-slip fault temblor ever, but that it set of a series of right-angle ruptures that amplified the shaking, like a block of ice cracking up in the heat.

And yes, it could happen here. The research, published last week in the journal Science Express, argues:

The new details provide fresh insights into the possibility of ruptures involving multiple faults occurring elsewhere--something that could be important for earthquake-hazard assessment along California's San Andreas fault, which itself is made up of many different segments and is intersected by a number of other faults at right angles.

Lingsen Meng, lead author of the Caltech research:

If other earthquake ruptures are able to go this deep or to connect as many fault segments as this earthquake did, they might also be very large and cause significant damage.

The USGS, of course, is begging Southern Californians to prepare for our "mega-earthquake," as academics called the Indonesian shaker. You know, flashlights, batteries, radios, water, nonperishable food. All that good stuff.

But 8.6? Be prepared to kiss your ass goodbye.

[@dennisjromero / djromero@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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obbopp
obbopp

Go deep enough and magma sits there, under immense pressure, yearning for release.

 

Let that release occur under the LA basin from fracturing via a mega-quake and lava will be oozing out of numerous fissures, enveloping the basin and possibly creating a near-extinction event for humans in the affected area.

 

The power brokers want to maintain their wealth channels so the possibility of lava floods a possibility are kept mum.

 

A boat in the back yard will not save you in the lava-type flood.

nowayjose
nowayjose

Oh Shoot now I'm scared. A "Mega Quake", sounds like mother nature is a terrorist.

Or maybe.....some Ph.D just wrote another paper with a "shocker style headline" trying establish himself as a source of knowledge while trying to build street cred amongst his Dr. homies.

InformedMan
InformedMan

 @nowayjose Or maybe....some people are too cowardly to face real actual risks, and have to use defense mechanisms to dismiss the facts that they are too scared to face up to.  Or maybe... some people are to insecure to acknowledge that PhDs might actually have more valuable opinions than you, so you have to be a PhD bigot, and insult anyone with an education above yours.

Feeling better about yourself now?  Nice to know that all PhDs are BS artists, and that NO ONE in the world could possibly be smarter than you... HOMIE.

reasonableefforts
reasonableefforts like.author.displayName 1 Like

It's always important to be aware and prepared as an individual for earthquakes in Southern California, but maybe also reporting on what city planners and developers are doing to address this possibility would be important as well.

JustSaying112
JustSaying112

Just pointing out the reality that if the earthquake doesn't get you, there exist other dangers of aftershocks, looters/criminals putting themselves first, and elements of weather depending on the time of year.

 

I'm not contributing to any 'fear mongering', rather pointing out that whatever style of article is written about California earthquakes in metropolitan areas should still serve to add to vigilance and preparedness.

 

Lastly, may I point out that California is not the only area of the country who should be prepared and warned about natural disaster: Northwest US = volcanoes including Yellowstone, Midwest = Madrid fault line (recently evaluated to pose more risk than originally thought) and tornadoes, and Gulf and East Coast = hurricanes. More places than not require the forethought of being prepared for the worst.

 

Current information = a good thing.

neskow
neskow

Just to weigh in, the odds of surviving even an earthquake of that magnitude are actually in most peoples' favor, unless it is the single largest earthquake ever, and it kills millions of people, which would be totally unprecedented (there are 13 million people in the LA metro area, after all). That said, I think you did great work, and I wouldn't put this article down by calling it fear-mongering, especially since the rest of it is pretty clearly backed up by hard data. And I agree, people should have respect for earthquakes here in Southern California (as it happens, I was already thinking about earthquakes because of the one last night).

sdroberts1987
sdroberts1987

He's right though...

 

Even with our earthquake proofing in So Cal, an 8.6 is simply gigantic.

 

If that hits, you may as well be as ready to kiss your ass goodbye as you could possibly be for that earthquake. Odds are, you are not going to be one of the ones who make it out.

 

This isn't fear mongering, it's basic logic.

Joes
Joes

Nice reporting, Dennis. It's not fear mongering at all.

 

BTW, looks like you missed one typo. Hyperlink on the 2nd paragraph reads: "put is in the dark for days if not weeks."

djromero
djromero moderator editortopcommenter

 @Joes BTW, see my response to geek, below, in terms of fear mongering. Were you here for Northridge? We're talking dozens of times stronger. An 8.6 would be nearly 10 TIMES stronger than the doomsday 7.8 Big One scenario. It's not fear mongering. There's not enough respect for quakes in L.A. We forget.

geekgirldiva
geekgirldiva

 @djromero  @Joes Oh and, I was here for Northridge, and Landers. What I remember most was the people who came out to help others affected.

djromero
djromero moderator editortopcommenter

 @Joes Will fix. Thanks.

geekgirldiva
geekgirldiva like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Gee, Dennis. "But 8.6? Be prepared to kiss your ass goodbye."

 

That's some on-fire, awesome, realistic reporting. Because, y'know, California and Indonesia have the same, exact earthquake proofing.

 

::slow clap::

 

djromero
djromero moderator editortopcommenter

 @geekgirldiva Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to weigh in. As I explain above, a 7.8 (follow the links for more) would be bad enough, as the experts acknowledge. Buildings will come down. People will die. Look up your earthquake science. An 8.6 is several magnitudes worse. 

geekgirldiva
geekgirldiva

 @djromero Hey Dennis, having lived through several quakes and having seen the results first hand, I'm not denying there would be extreme damage and loss of life.

 

What I found offensive was your tone and the conflation of earthquake results in two very different locations.

 

We've seen it before. Buildings came down, people died, highways collapsed. 

 

But telling people to kiss their ass goodbye? I'd have been more impressed if you'd given people ways to survive an 8.6 and the aftermath. Not suggest they're not gonna need the tips cause they'll be dead. ;-)

toldyasoh
toldyasoh

YEEEEE Hawwwwwww

Just remember this my friends. Most people don't plan to fail they fail to plan, so go buy what you need to be earthquake ready because the big one is going to hit Los Angeles at 10:01 am Nov. 20 2012 At least you have been warned. !! 

zoso1
zoso1

 @bellyupproductions lol @ 'hip, edgy sentences'

you guys need to lighten up, it was a light but informative little article about a scary topic.  if this offended you, you don't get out much.

bellyupproductions
bellyupproductions

 @djromero I agree with geekgirldiva. Having lived through the Northridge quake and it's terror I found your end comment really offensive.  My aunt lost a dear friend during that quake. Very sad. I hope you don't think people are stupid enough to think an 8.6 quake couldn't kill them and many more. I would put my money on Caltech as well but there is a difference in informing people and just being a mindless blabbermouth that thinks he's being cool by using "hip, edgy sentences" that are clearly fear mongering. You're a writer you can do better...Hopefully you wont be kissing your own ugly ass goodbye during this next one. I know it's superstition but it is "Shake and Bake" weather... Get ready for it!

djromero
djromero moderator editortopcommenter

 @geekgirldiva Sorry to offend. Tips were also offered and have long been urged (it's not like they're a big secret).

 

The "conflation" of "earthquake results" in two different places is what the story's all about. That's what the experts at Caltech say. Have a problem with it, talk to them. I'm going to guess they know a little more about the subject. My money's on them.

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