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L.A. Parking Taxes Gone Wild: City Approves New Meters, Looks to Expand Street Sweeping

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$73 a pop.
The L.A. City Council knows our weak spot. In order to get almost anywhere in this godforsaken sprawl pit, we need to drive a car. Unless we can afford valet/a driveway, we often need to park that car on the street; and unless we're perfect parking robots, we sometimes sprint back to our vehicles five minutes after the meter has expired or the street-sweeping window has commenced.

Clearly we're just asking for some indirect taxation:

The L.A. City Council, desperate to balance the 2012-13 budget, bumped up all parking tickets by $5 last month. That means expired-meter tickets now cost $63 and street-sweeping tickets now cost $73.

So! Now that they've gotten the icky part over with, councilmembers are slowly building a stricter parking infrastructure that will help them cash in on their egregious new fines.

Two weeks back, city politicians ordered the Department of Transportation to install 437 new parking meters in the Palms and Westchester neighborhoods.

And tomorrow, they'll be voting on an even more controversial source of income (because it's disguised as a city service): street sweeping.

Councilman Tony Cardenas has revived his 2009 motion to not only expand sweeping routes to cover more residential streets, but to add no-parking signs to over 8,000 miles of current route. And for some of the streets that already have restrictions, he wants to widen the no-parking window.

Cardenas' rationale?

"Street sweeping provides numerous benefits to a neighborhood and the community at large. Sweepers clear the streets of dirt, debris, and trash that might otherwise clog our storm drains or be carried by run-off to the ocean. Sweepers improve the livability of a neighborhood and clean streets foster community pride."

However, on routes with no parking restrictions, he laments that "much of the debris and trash is left behind or blocked by parked vehicles."

We haven't heard a peep from residents about dirt or trash buildup due to insufficient sweeps. In fact, just the opposite: Last year, Silver Lake was raising a fuss about parking tickets being issued on days that the sweeper didn't even come, and a Sherman Oaks resident recently asked the local Patch:

"I believe street cleaning has become more of a ticket racket than an essential city service, and as a resident I'd like to know my options. Does our street or neighborhood have the option to waive mandatory street cleaning parking restrictions? When I lived in Glendale, the street cleaners drove around the parked cars and it all worked out fine - and that was even in the equestrian zone where there was actually something to clean. What choices do we have?"

The City Council will decide tomorrow whether to send Cardenas' proposal to the City Administrative Officer "to prepare a report analyzing the financial impacts of the proposed alternatives."

Which, of course, will not include the financial impacts of $73 tickets on L.A. residents who accidentally slept in on street-sweeping day.

[@simone_electra / swilson@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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Jnobody
Jnobody

I'm mad.  I just got a $73 street sweeping ticket.  I admit, I spaced out and accidentally parked my car during the sweeping window.... but $73!!!!  because a truck couldn't sweep 10 feet of curb?  That's outrageous!  The other day I witnessed a street sweeping truck wiz by and do nothing but throw leaves and garbage all over the place.  it doesn't clean anything.  If the City wants to save money, they should eliminate the sweeping trucks.

TeufelWolf
TeufelWolf

If the city needs money how about cracking down on unlicensed and uninsured drivers. That would raise money, make the street safer, and have almost no impact on legal residents of Los Angeles.

Joe99
Joe99

 @TeufelWolf why limit to just one avenue? punishing bad behavior financially is the most effective way to stop the behavior. punish unlicensed drivers and punish people who abuse the public space. you dont have the right to park your private vehicle in the public space for more than a fair share of time. sorry. go get a private piece of land to store your vehicle. problem solved.

FreeLA
FreeLA

 @Joe99  @TeufelWolf Spoke like a true beaurocrat. LA has plenty of money and this is another racket to screw over citizens who mostly live on and do business on the streets they park.  Parking Enforcement scares away business. A beaurocrat like yourself would not understand. If you believe its bad behavior to park on a street AFTER Its been sweeped, then may I recommend a country more suited to your liking...maybe China or Iran.  Problem solved.

roadblock
roadblock

The highway and street system cost BAZILLLLIONS of US dollars to build and maintain. Reg fees and gas tax havent been raised in over a decade and barely scrape the surface of the maintenance bill. In fact the governator bought his way into office by promising to REDUCE the car reg fees which he did, which cost the state BILLIONS in money that is desperately needed to maintain the roads that are worn away with every trip by a pavement destroying vehicle. Car driving is EXPENSIVE. It is a decadent form of travel. The creempuff of America got used to carting themselves around like royalty because we borrowed tons of money to live it. Its not sustainable.European nations tax car driving HEAVILY because it costs so much to sustain. We hide the costs through subsidizing with money that could otherwise go to education or mass transit options so that the average Joe doesnt need to spend $4-$8k maintaining and supporting a car every year. Basically, we are dumb with our money. Driving everywhere is unsustainable and expensive to society. It SHOULD be taxed and tamed and money should be going back into the system from those who destroy the infrastructure the most. European nations have mass transit that is comfortable and sustainable. We chose to have crumbling streets and mass transit that is stigmatized as only for broke people. If you own and drive a car you should pay the full bill. And why shouldnt a city get paid from tickets? The point is to tax bad behaviour that costs the city money and get that money back and turn it into a service. Parking tickets are really easy to avoid of all things... and providing a public space to store a private vehicle is a huge burden on the system.

antonehammers
antonehammers

Oh yea, increasing fines will help.  Increase street sweeping times will probably help way more than fines.  Five dollars isn't going to make someone remember to move their car even more, it's just going to piss them off more when they forget.  No other city rapes their citizens as much as this one does, I hope we rise up and refuse to pay these bullshit tickets together, we can beat them like red light tickets. 

TeufelWolf
TeufelWolf

 @antonehammers NYC, SF, Chicago rape their residents worse then LA. NYC goes after kids for drawing on the sidewalk with chalk years before LA started its war on chalk.

Juan Enrique
Juan Enrique

stop spending money on illegals and anchor babies....

Lui Rodriguez
Lui Rodriguez

eleminate lazy city workers ,lazy management and lower revenue.

prideinownership.
prideinownership. like.author.displayName 1 Like

get rid of the street sweeping. Every Friday every resident in LA should be required to get out the brooms, rakes and shovels and clean their own street. If the block is not kept clean the entire block gets hit with a fine, If the block doesn't pay their fines, bulldoze their homes and turn the block into a park.

Jay Ryan
Jay Ryan

pretty soon there will be an oxygen tax..

Mark Dubrall
Mark Dubrall

Fuck you government of Los Angeles you greedy mobsters. The city is broke because of you. Taking more money than you deserve and then finding ways to get more by doing this kind of shit. Take a pay cut. Take a pay cut. Take a pay cut!!!!!!!!!!!! You greedy sons of bitches can ticket me on street sweeping day and your sweeper dosent even go through. We can't park on broken meters? Fuck all of you greedy bastards. This nation is falling apart from so much greed. Stop raising gas prices stop taxing everything and take a 50% pay cut all of you greedy people that should cover the deficit. I live my country but I really hate the people running it

xjereme
xjereme

Its not the meters, the street sweeping, or ticket amounts that is of concern or unfair...it is how long the meters allow for. Most new meters only allow you to park for 15 minutes. I believe 15 minute meters should be changed to an one hour max and meters near court buildings should have a 5 hour max. Now that is what its all about folks. 

TeufelWolf
TeufelWolf

 @xjereme If you don't like parking meters, blame the local merchants. Merchants lobby the city for short time meters so that their own workers can't park on the street - they want those spots for customers.

Joe99
Joe99

 @TeufelWolf oh wow now we're anti business too? OF COURSE merchants want the parking in front of their businesses to have a high turnover. they want people to buy then GTFO not store their private vehicles for weeks on public land.

Jaime Estrada Zambrano
Jaime Estrada Zambrano

Citizens should be able to issue tickets and fines to police officers who loiter at donut shops, politicians who don't have the savvy to create jobs and school district reps who do absolutely nothing about overcrowded schools with few resources.

Martin Silva
Martin Silva

Make sure none of these idiots get re elected or win another public office!!!

Gil Mrqz
Gil Mrqz

Went to DTLA the other day this guy asked me how long I was going to stay I said a cpl of hrs so before I got out of my car he went to the parking meter & stuck in & out a paper clip in the meter when I saw the meter had enough time for me to go do my shopping, the guy's like I'll be here I'll take care of your car 'til you come back.

Chelsea Bell
Chelsea Bell

It's total bullshit. The penalties qualify as cruel and unusual because they DO NOT MATCH THE OFFENSE. When one ticket is equal to 20% of my rent payment the detriment to my livelihood is too severe. Let's get a class action suit going! No more attacks on the working class. Not ok.

ActionMan
ActionMan like.author.displayName 1 Like

I have a better idea to close the budget gap than parking ticket overreach - why not just get rid of street sweeping altogether? How much do tax payers pay for that complete waste of time "ooh I need my gutters nice and clean!!" - what a huge waste of time and resources - and damage to the environment "Street Sweeping" causes...  while we're at it let's get rid of leaf blowers too.

TeufelWolf
TeufelWolf

 @ActionMan We could also start cracking down on unlicensed drivers again. The city used to make a killing on unlicensed drivers because they would seize the car and sell it. 25% of drivers on the road have no right being behind the wheel of car. Just think how much better traffic and parking would be if 25% of the cars where gone.

Houri Arakelian Madenian
Houri Arakelian Madenian

This is total crap! The street my mother lives on has street sweeping every Tuesday! The sweeper comes around maybe once a month! My mom ends up picking up the trash on Thursday because the sweeper never came!! However, the meter maid comes every Tuesday to make sure to hand out tickets!! LA County keeps dishing crap!!!

admrobster
admrobster

Well the City Council criminals have special passes to keep them from being forced to pay their tickets.

 

I once got a "no parking street cleaning on Thursday" ticket on a Friday (the other side of the street said Friday). I ended up paying it because of the hassle it is to contest it.

 

antonehammers
antonehammers

 @admrobster I tried to contest it for sympathy of the court for being new to LA.  None.  Then I played the poor card, "Yea, you have to pay it in full, but we can spread it out over three months."  No sympathy what-so-ever, I'm not poor, but I'm struggling as a newbie in this town.  All the systems here for parking are set up to fuck every person.  They must make a killing off of street sweeping, and meter maids.  Great for them for imposing a tax upon us without it actually being a tax, but with so many citizens, you can't get lucky when parking wrong, cause they have a military of meter maids out there to ticket you the first minute you fuck up.  To me... that's fucked up.  Way too many people trying to get you tickets, and way too many less people trying to keep you safe.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who's said this.

Missy Jeanne
Missy Jeanne

fucking ridiculous... i see a protest in the near future...

Mike Miledi
Mike Miledi

I don't mind the tax, hell just give us the bill annually, it's the hypocracy. This is not an enforcement issue, it's a revenue thing.

Mitch Edelson
Mitch Edelson

They say mobsters are guilty of racketeering. Ask yourself, who are the real criminals?

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