Nakoula Basseley Nakoula Behind Innocence of Muslims? Film Had L.A. Permit, Production

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Yesterday we asked if the person or people behind the incendiary film Innocence of Muslims were religious zealots.

The answer might be yes.

The San Gabriel Valley Tribune broke the news last night that the permit for the flick's production was taken out by a Duarte group called Media for Christ:


Yeah, you heard right, Media for Christ.

The SGV Tribune also found out that the thing was filmed, at least in part, at Blue Cloud studios, a.k.a. Blue Cloud Movie Ranch, in Santa Clarita.

The Los Angeles Times late last night matched some of the Tribune's info. The paper added that the film was shot in August, 2011 under the title Desert Warriors (which might explain why the actors said they felt duped).

So this puts L.A. right in the middle of a glowing-hot situation that might have helped get a U.S. ambassador in Libya killed along with three other Americans Tuesday. It also seems to have sparked raucous protests in Cairo Wednesday.

Awesome.

The Arab world's reaction to the film -- actually just a YouTube trailer that had been translated into Arabic slightly more than a week ago -- is now the top issue on the Washington agenda.

Using actors in brown face, Innocence of Muslims clowns Islam's most sacred figure, Mohammed, portraying him as, among other bad things, a child molester. Muslims are depicted as savages who kill innocent Christians.

Its producer is said to be an Israel real estate mogul in L.A. named Sam Bacile, who told reporters yesterday that "Islam is a cancer."

Except that maybe Bacile doesn't exist. The Jewish Journal couldn't find anyone who knew him.

Associated Press found out that a 55-year-old Coptic Christian (the Coptic church is the largest Christian religion in the Middle East) and bank-fraud convict named Nakoula Basseley Nakoula who has the same address as that affiliated with a phone number for "Bacile."

It also found that ...

... federal court papers said Nakoula's aliases included Nicola Bacily, Erwin Salameh and others.

Nakoula denied being Bacile but admitted that he was manager for a company that produced the film. AP:

During a conversation outside his home, he offered his driver's license to show his identity but kept his thumb over his middle name, Basseley. Records checks by the AP subsequently found it and other connections to the Bacile persona. The AP located Bacile after obtaining his cell phone number from Morris Sadek, a conservative Coptic Christian in the U.S. who had promoted the anti-Muslim film in recent days on his website.

Part of his 2010 bank fraud plea deal denied him access to the internet. AP found that "Bacile" was posting videos and commenting on articles in recent months and even days.

In the meantime, we found an old Media for Christ MySpace page that says the group produces weekly television programming. It also says:

The International Media is crowded with many topics that do not bring glory to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ . The Lord has given me the vision for Media for Christ so we could proclaim the peace of Jesus through than effective Christian media that would positively touch everyone . In June 2005 by the grace of God Media for Christ was established to become the light that shows Jesus Christ to all human beings.

One listing names Joseph Abdelmasih as the group's director. The Tribune says he's CEO.

And you thought the hot season was over. It's only beginning, with Southern California at the center of a global storm.

[@dennisjromero / djromero@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]

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kckola2
kckola2

Im from the fucking scums of Los Angeles. I was raised in shit. I believe nothing I was taught in this brainwashing peice of nothing education system in L.A. Im black. A good day for me viewed by a middle class white person would get depressed and commit suicide if they had to live the rest of their lives as such. Im not a rascist by default and I hate dumb blacks too. The only motivation to get out of bed is to strive to stumble upon a fucking mistake by nature and come across an opportunity to escape clean and sane out of this hell. Death is not feared but anticipated and considered a blessing like life parole for most people like me that fate shits on........So with all that said, bear with me as I try to understand this so-called 'War on ????' The only justifacation of any war is there is an established cause of heart that one or more people feels that is threaten by an established adversary.After all diplomatic efforts fail and the cause cease to exist if the adversary exist then war is the last resort as the only way to continue the existance of the cause at hand. The cause af heart of any soldier of any war should be the defeating the powers and resources that threaten the cause being fought for. Then thats it. So remember Im a little slow so lets get this right: Humans were created but it they still didnt get God off so he created the Jew. Being God's own they had standards and laws that they must abide and God promised paradise for them. Within an hour after God leaves they say fuck Him and cursed humanity. God must punish as he rewards so he must thrash the Jew couple to only discipline. The Jews like it rough so they never come through with obedience even after fair prophecies and mercy of past sins. Jews get the world to questioning the power of God then mocking of God, then not believing the existance of a weenie God. Thus creating a shitload of religons, faiths, cults, and beliefs that Gentiles or non-Jews can take up. The root cause and beliefs of these groups, Im sure, was anti-Jew from the begining. These fuckers are not worthy to eat the shit of their God but they are in a special blood-line???? They are our masters for what? They are no better and at times I cant tell who is Jew or Gentile. Neither could God so he send a special one to give the Jews one last warning before he gets pissed. Simultaneously, he says fuck His chosen and allows anybody to get some action. New rules were laid and that special proiphet was to deliver the news to both Jew and Gentile that God said fuck His kids and he's willing to adopt without any discrimination. He does this and the Jews said , "Fuck You and this new God" and wacked the special one, but not before he foretold all that was to come. The bullshit religions, the belief of nothing, the wars and plagues, the punishment of His Jews, the acceptance of Gentiles, the new rules and laws and the rewards and punishments of them and........the enemies reign over a new class Jew because obviously God was the first to witness the spoiling of inheretance and needed a form of bootcamp to weed out the bad out of Jews and the good out of Gentiles. They will be fucked up in this life but he promised a swell afterlife if they hold Him down. Thats fair. I think. Okay so there are the special one's followers causes, the adversaries, the adversaries causes, the war and soldiers cause.........At least that is whats written in their sacred holy books. Did these books say that Jesus, Moses, and Mohammed were enemies and to forget the evils of yourself and neighbors and just seek the followers and haborers of the other prophets and slay them? Slay the whole house while your there. Fuckit slay their friends and their neighbors too. Dont stop you big killer go for the Country since they allow the enemy to live. Fuckit slay anybody born in that evil place even if they worship the same. That will teach them. These holy books must also say to disregard the rules when it benefits the reader and love the other prophets and followers and Gods and co-exist and to stay ready to kill spar with your own and make allies with your enemies if they dont comply with hypocrisy. Only if its beneficial though. Really people??? No, all three Faiths stem from the same Patriach Abraham as fathering them. With worship going to the same God regardless of name difference. How did it come to this .   

kennyddd
kennyddd

And what about the possibility this guy would put his hate for Obama above the saftey of others and whats good for our country?. I wouldnt be suprised if this guy who is responsible for this film is a Republican  doing what they do best.  Creating suffering for so many.       MUST STOP OBAMA  lets creat an international incident to make him look bad          Wouldnt suprise me a bit

 

kennyddd
kennyddd like.author.displayName 1 Like

I wouldnt be so full of your christioan selves over this story. Of course it was cruel and sick of those people . Christians are responsible for just as much death and suffering as islam. In my life time you  so called good  christians were stringing up black people. Lucky for us we live in a country where at least most of the more crazy christians cant get away with whats really still in some of the more extreme christians hearts if they had one. You talk about the horror storys of the Koran like there isnt HORROR storys about god in the bible?  What hypocrites.  Christian who can no longer have slaves or burn witches at the stake  can still tell people who they can marry or abuse LITTLE BOYS     Freaking hypocrite christians    

aaronmezei
aaronmezei

probably the most hateful thing i have ever seen...... shame on them....

winoceros
winoceros

Look at all the bigotry here: devout Muslims are expected to kill as a result of a religious affront to a warlord dead over a thousand years if he existed at all. Therefore, unlike all other faiths and figures, we should let them dictate the content of our speech because they are too ignorant and savage to control urges to murder non-devout Muslims and non-Muslims. What isn't to mock? There was nothing holy about Mohammad, he consummated his marriage with a clueless, doll-clutching daughter of a cowed and scared friend when she was nine, according to their own compilations of "special things we love about Islam and Mohammed", and we're supposed to "respect" this fascist faith? When you wring your little free hands and cry, "don't wake the mean stupid murderous dragon, you fools!" don't you belie all those memes you pretend are true, like "all cultures are valid"? Can't we just agree that liberty and free speech, by extension, are innately superior conditions and hold those who do not act in liberty as accountable and immoral? Hate the film all you want, the reactions are devout Muslim failings, not ours. Why are we criticizing those who find Islam detestable? Doesnt anyone who values liberty and free speech find Islam utterly antithetical to both? It could be worse...criticism could come from those who haven't taken the time to see if the filmmaker recreated anything not found in the Quran or the Hadith...they might not even realize that murderers would act solely based on mohamed being depicted. But I'm sure everyone has taken the time to see these things are readily available in the Islamic "holy" texts. Remember, this is what they consider "sacred."

r.rowley.arizona
r.rowley.arizona

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, reportedly lives at 12608 PARK ST, CERRITOS, CALIFORNIA, 90703. DOB: 20 July, 1957...Several criminal charges through Orange County Superior Court.

winoceros
winoceros

@r.rowley.arizona Good job getting those Copts squared away. Easier in Egypt than America, where they're already being slaughtered while their Muslim Brotherhood government nods and turns a blind eye. So much more punishment in the U.S. than in Egypt. Does it occur to you that people who criticize Islam have to do so anonymously? Ever wondered why? Feel the need to offer human sacrifice much?

chiral
chiral

 @winoceros totally agree to offer him as sacrifice it is needed

carunck
carunck

Maybe if you looked on international sites you would view pics of Muslims that are against these violent protests and murders of US ambassadors, etc... But no, just like these extreme Muslims, you want to blame an entire group. So I'd call you an extremist and a bigot as well.

winoceros
winoceros

@carunck We'll wait here for citations. I'm sure there are thousands.

kat_girl75
kat_girl75

@keithplocek OK blame the individuals who killed the ambassador the filmmaker did not

keithplocek
keithplocek

@kat_girl75 Are you speaking rhetorically? But sure, those guys are assholes.

kat_girl75
kat_girl75

@keithplocek I'm speaking literally .

keithplocek
keithplocek

@kat_girl75 Did I blame anyone? You're arguing with a straw man. Let me know what he says next.

Will_H85
Will_H85 like.author.displayName 1 Like

And of course people are trying to blame anyone and anything they can for the deaths as long as it's not Islam or the actual murderers.  Seems like people will blindly defend Islam no matter what it does and will always find someone else to blame for the crimes caused by it.  

mnl_1221
mnl_1221

This is horrible.  If this is true, a group of misguided, even fraudulent so-called Christians, posing as Israeli Jews, made and publicized a film designed for inflaming Muslims and blaming Jews--but it may end up shaming Christians.  Are they trying to bring about World War III or the Apocalypse?  What a black eye to Christians and also to Jesus.  Now I almost feel like crying.

winoceros
winoceros

@mnl_1221 Christianity has no tenet that espouses bearing false witness against your neighbor, so there is no blame on Christianity. And Jesus? Please. Stop accepting blame for murderers. They are wrong. "inflaming" people happens all the time but you blame others for the human rights abuses they commit just because they are offended. Where is your moral compass? Do you blame rape victs, too?

mnl_1221
mnl_1221

 @winoceros  @mnl_1221 Excuse me?  Jesus called Satan the father of lies.  Jesus also quoted the "do not bear false witness" commandment in the gospel.  I think he also said things against causing another to sin.  If this were a simple matter of a group of people making this film and some Muslims extremists finding out about it and making a big deal of it, I'd concede your point a little more.  (Think of what happened with that Danish cartoon a few years ago.)  However, not only did the producers lie to the actors about the purpose and story of this film, I suspect that they made sure that some easy-to-inflame Muslim extremists found out about it.  Someone translated the film, or its excerpt, into Arabic.  As for your rape scenario: if someone pointed to an innocent person and said, "She likes it rough, and she never says no," and the person listening to him/her raped her, then the person who slandered the victim would share some of the blame.  I know it's not a spot-on comparison, but it does say something about intending to cause other people to sin.

srfvara
srfvara

This "film", and I use that term in the Lowest form, has caused the death of Four of our US people. I can't believe that the People of the Middle East, can not see that it was made by IDIOTS and not  a sitcom on out National TV or a movie shown in OUR Theaters. Talk about "uneducated" !!!

 

God Bless the families of the four American's that DIED because of it.

winoceros
winoceros like.author.displayName 1 Like

@srfvara They died in a coordinated Al-Qaeda attack. The film trailer is over a year old. It was used for cover. Wake yourself up and remember what crimes they commit is because they obey Allah, not because someone made a cheesy film trailer.

jeanpierresnpbl
jeanpierresnpbl

This man "Sam Bacile" made a great effort to defame Israel and Jews pretending to be both.

 

Headlines all over the world jumped at this to blame Israel.

winoceros
winoceros

@jeanpierresnpbl What else is new? Do we rightly criticize them all the other times?

abramsrl
abramsrl like.author.displayName 1 Like

The film clip looks like a farce, kind of like one of those old Sword and Scandals flicks from the 1950's and 1960's crossed with bad dubbing of Hong Kong films. All that is missing are the talking heads mocking the film at the bottom of the screen from Science Fiction Movie Theaters (do I have the name right?).

 

As it degenerates into an incoherent anti-Mohammed screed, the only thing which is clear is that it was made by idiots.

allie427
allie427

 @abramsrl You're thinking of Mystery Science Theater.  And yes...I agree.  The film was made by idiots. 

 

abramsrl
abramsrl

 @allie427   Thanks for the correction, I sensed I was missing the mark somewhat.  I can just see the little talking heads turning the idiotic film into a laugh riot -- and that is the only type riot it merited.  A laugh riot at the fools who made it.

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