Did Electric Daisy Carnival's Move to Vegas Cost L.A. Millions?

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Timothy Norris
EDC ravers.
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The L.A. organizers of the annual Electric Daisy Carnival this week said the economic impact of their last event on the Las Vegas area was worth $207 million.

Why are they telling us this? Well, such parties were shut out of the L.A. Coliseum and Sports Arena complex following the ecstasy-overdose death of a 15-year-old raver in 2010 and a subsequent scandal alleging side-payments at the public venues.

And so, the organizer wants to ...


... rub it in: You know -- all those dollars and jobs that could have stayed in L.A.

According to the report commissioned by promoter Insomniac Events and executed by Beacon Economics, LLC, the three-day June party saw 320,000 people who helped contribute $207 million to the Clark County economy.

Among the benefits, according to a statement by Insomniac:

... $28.3 million spent in accommodations, $19.8 million in transportation, $19.6 million in dining, $17.2 million in gaming, $10.5 million in entertainment and $7.9 million in retail.

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EDC girls.

It sounds a bit exaggerated to us, particularly since the promoter has a history of padding numbers (the attendance count was said to be 300,000 at the end of the fest, which we attended).

Ravers spent nearly $20 million on food? That's a lot of cash for ecstasy and 7-Eleven hot-dog water.

We kid. Sort of. But using organizers' original 300,000-attendee count that would be almost $66 a head for food, $57 a head for gambling and $94 a head for hotels alone (that's $217 on top of $250 tickets) in a town where young ravers were packed three and more to a room and Insomniac itself promoted sub-$100 room deals.

Okay.

And, it wouldn't be logical to extrapolate these figures to the L.A. version of EDC, which saw about 160,000 or so people over two days, with a highly local audience (which would eliminate a lot of the food and lodging and all the alleged gaming).

And experts have disputed the economic impact of such special events, arguing that a region often ends up even because money spent at one happening is taken away from what would have been spent at another.

Of course that other place could have indeed been L.A.

There's no doubt lots of people spent lots of money during those June days in Vegas, and that L.A. would have seen at least some of that if EDC had stayed here.

The promoter says:

The festival created an estimated $13.1 million in tax revenue for state and local government, the equivalent of 2,018 full-time jobs, bringing in $84 million in income for workers in Clark County.

And Insomniac honcho Pasquale Rotella notes, rightly so, that some people who didn't even have tickets to EDC showed up just for the associated nightlife on the strip:

The activities surrounding the festival weekend brought fans to Las Vegas for several days before and after the event, so they were still able to get a taste of the EDC experience even if they did not have tickets to the sold-out main event.

Still, given the stank of the Coliseum-Sports Arena scandal here and the likelihood USC will take over management of the venues, we think Insomniac's wasting its money on these deftly chef'd economic-impact reports.

That is, unless it's using them as bargaining power for future negotiations at EDC's current venue, Las Vegas Motor Speedway. The promoter has three more years as part of a five-year contract there and promises that the party will be back bigger and better than ever next summer.

That part we don't doubt at all.

[@dennisjromero / djromero@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]


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andreaball
andreaball

2010 will be known as the year LA raving died. 

andreaball
andreaball

$66 a head for food, $57 a head for gambling and $94 a head for hotels alone ---- all seems fair for 3 DAYS

EightySixem
EightySixem

millions if Not Billions lost--- no question about it . Life goes on ..LA police and Fed agencies dont like Pasquela or whatever his name is who owns Insomniac-- its all old news

Marcia Saucedo
Marcia Saucedo

- what are you complaining about!? edclv IS los angeles!!!! hahaha. 1/2 of the people there are from la/cali... so whatever.

RayHafner
RayHafner

@keithplocek Can all headlines the end with a question mark be answered with a No?

Anthoni Le
Anthoni Le

It's unfortunately been more than one kid. It's been several over several years. Don't kid yourself.

Aleen Bedrosian
Aleen Bedrosian

L.A.'s EDM scene sucks now. I agree with Ayden. I love the music, been to countless events, have *never* done drugs, yet I get punished along with an entire city for one kid's mistake. Drugs are everywhere. Depriving us of our events is not going to do a damn thing to change that.

Ayden المتحمسين الحكمة Leo
Ayden المتحمسين الحكمة Leo

@al - yea like these adults at clubs every weekend don't od 9 of 10 times compared to 2 out 10 times at an EDM event ... People don't just do DRUGS at Edm events. They do this regularly. And not all do ... I sure don't ... No matter where I am.

Al Guerrero
Al Guerrero

L.A. Will actually save money by not having to pay off the huge lawsuits filed by attorneys every time some drugged out stupid kid od's or falls off a balcony at these festivals. Good riddance!

Eduardo Pena
Eduardo Pena

uhhhhhh no why did trance or electro music get so big it sucks robot music and then no one liked it in the 90's when it was going even harder and was still underground! now its all these tweens and swag fag kids haha get reall sorry LA times i love your paper but i dont love this music sorry still picking one up tomorrow though peace

Liliana Vasquez-Duran
Liliana Vasquez-Duran

L.A is loosing out because conservative tendencies strip the core of creativity and ingenuity.

Ayden المتحمسين الحكمة Leo
Ayden المتحمسين الحكمة Leo

It's a given the average goer is going to drop 400$ in consumption. Not including gambling. Not including their 200$ tix were the companies turns around and pays the city for even having it ... @ 100k attendees per day ...it is at least 80mil in consumption only ... And these are very conservative numbers ... The diff in LA is no one did hotels. Mostly all drove in ... Plus it's WAYYY better in VEGAS ... Buffets and larger venue!! Good one LA !

Nick Tolkmit
Nick Tolkmit

The promoters were looking for a reason to move anyways....vegas made WAY more money, and people from LA were driving to vegas anyways. The taxes are also a fraction.

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

But we get more Conventions at a refurbished Convention Center right?

Lovely Marie
Lovely Marie

L.A. was stupid as fuck to get rid of EDC. We should not be blamed for someones stupid actions

Brett Hampton
Brett Hampton

Actually, given the grossly exaggerated revenues claimed by the promoters versus how much the event actually made here, it sounds like a piddly little revenue loss.

Brett Hampton
Brett Hampton

The kids are going to OD whether it's in LA or Vegas.

Jae Tee
Jae Tee

hell yeah! all because parents can't control their kids!

Mad Boxer
Mad Boxer

Thank the LA Times and their yellow journalism

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