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Measure B Election Results: Porn's Mandatory Condom Initiative Wins; Industry Vows Challenge

Categories: Election 2012

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Updated with the initiative winning. The industry says it will challenge the measure in court. First posted at 9:38 p.m. Tuesday.

Despite disapproval from the porn industry, the Los Angeles Times and the L.A. Daily News, the L.A. county initiative that would mandate condoms in porn was winning tonight.

According to early L.A. County Registrar-Recorder figures measure B was winning 63 percent in favor to 36 percent against.

That's with ...


... 391,759 votes counted.

Measure B was spearheaded by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation which has, for years, tried to get the adult business to play safe.

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Porn star Justine Joli.

The organization cites California workplace safety officials who say condoms are indeed the law in the state; they just don't have the resources to enforce the rule.

The initiative, then, sought to institutionalize condoms through massage-parlor-like permitting for adult production throughout most of the county (Pasadena, Long Beach and Vernon, which have their own health departments, are exempt).

The city of Los Angeles has a similar rule -- for on-location shoots that properly seek permits -- but has yet to figure out how to enforce it.

The industry has argued that consumers won't buy condom porn and that enforcement would push the multi-billion-dollar business underground and out of Los Angeles' "Porn Valley."

AIDS Healthcare has cited a 2004 HIV scare and summer's syphilis scare as evidence that the industry's monthly STD testing protocol for performers doesn't work.

The most successful argument against measure B seems to be the one that claims it would empower bigger government without the means for enforcement.

But AHF says it's about more than that: It's about human life.

[Update at 11:58 p.m.]: The initiative continued to win tonight with 33 percent of precincts reporting. Voting was about 60 percent in favor and 39 percent opposed.

Political consultant James Lee of the No on Measure B campaign told the Weekly there was still hope however, especially considering the slow pace of the L.A. county count. He indicated many votes in whiter, more liberal parts of L.A., including the Westside, had yet to be tallied and could end up favoring the no side.

[Update at 12:47 p.m. Wednesday]: It won 55 percent to 45 percent. Actually it was closer (55.85 percent) to 56. While the AIDS Healthcare Foundation held a news conference this afternoon to celebrate, the industry lobbying group known as the Free Speech Coalition said it would challenge the measure in court.

Diane Duke, CEO of the FSC:

... We believe in the calm, serious deliberations of the legal system we will find that Measure B is in fact unconstitutional.

The industry sent a letter to the L.A. County Board of Supervisors indicating its threat. In it, Duke says:

We believe that the law is not only unconstitutional on the grounds of forced expression, but also falls within the jurisdiction of the state of California rather than local government. Therefore, we will file suit and challenge this intolerable law in court.

[@dennisjromero / djromero@laweekly.com / @LAWeeklyNews]


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jasons0660
jasons0660

The straight porn industry is very homophobic towards male homosexual behavior.  Bisexual men have often been knocked back by the female porn performers.  There's a long list of bisexual men whom the women refuse to have sex with.  This is a bit rich when you consider that these women are highly promiscuous and engage in same-sex behavior with other women.  Such hypocrisy!

 

The sooner the entire porn industry is kicked out of California, the better.

jjfarren1977
jjfarren1977

Let's get something clear: this was supported, not spearheaded by gay groups. Unless supported because of the dangers in unsafe sex practices. Gay groups would be chastised and burned at the stake if they didst support this, with organizations claiming they are advancing the spread of STDs. Now, we do support it and we are chastised for raining on straight people's cumfest. Get a life. You want it both ways. You want us to live by certain rules but then don't believe those should apply to you. You can get HIV as well. Condoms, with regular HIV testing, help prevent this from happening. As a proud gay man, and one who is HIV+, I PROUDLY support this bill. In fact, California should do it statewide. It protects the actors...the viewers agent the ones taking a 9" rod up their orifice: until found STFU!

JaimeSH
JaimeSH

Measure B is not unconstitutional, and will not lose in any California court. It's already been determined in court that the measure falls within the domain of LA's enforcement of Cal/OSHA. Measure B simply establishes a "bright line rule" that specifies the burdens on the pornography industry for Cal/OSHA compliance. 

 

In the American job market, employers cannot allow a job-seeker's willingness to waive their rights to a safe workplace to be a factor in hiring decisions. There has been considerable testimony from numerous porn actors that insisting on condom use has both prevented them from finding work, and gotten them fired from work. As this isn't a criminal case, there is no burden of proof -- in fact, under OSHA, it's incumbent on employers to be able to demonstrate compliance. 

 

 

Steve York
Steve York

Can we get a welfare check on Michael Whiteacre? I'm starting to get worried that he hasn't angrily posted 400 times yet.

kingofhearts1970
kingofhearts1970

porn moves to China, or Canada. What idiots would make this a law.(Losers) I realize gay guys don't like porn but don't put your hang-up on me.

jjfarren1977
jjfarren1977

@kingofhearts1970 Can we keep gay and straight out of THIS argument as well, thankful very much, you ignorant baffoon?! This law affects the gay porn industry as well, and HIV is not a gay virus; it affects straight and bisexuals as well. So don't put your hang up on gay people.

Ryan McGavin
Ryan McGavin

Bareback porn moves to Vegas, mmmmm more Monsanto

JHRoyale
JHRoyale

People who voted 'yes' were being completely shortsighted. It's not a health or moral issue or whatever they wanted to believe. You and I and the great majority of LA residents will not have sex with these porn performers. We will however feel the sting when this billion-dollar industry is not around anymore. 

terminal7
terminal7

Ridiculous. First off, what exactly is the point of creating another law that's simply unenforceable? And fortunately it is unenforceable, otherwise LA would be losing a considerable source of(much needed) revenue. Like it or not, people don't want to watch condom porn so the producers aren't going to make it. There's also an irony in Gay organizations taking a leading role in all this. For people who want the right to decide for themselves what they can/can't do(marriage), they sure have no qualms deciding whats permissible for others. Besides, gays should be the last people on the planet lecturing/mandating others concerning safe sex, the spread of std's and following the law/regulations...While I supported "marriage equality" in the past when it was on the ballot, I won't vote for it(or similar measures) next time as a result of this hypocrisy(and I know of a few others who've made the same decision).

Brett Hampton
Brett Hampton

The GMO (alarmist tripe) issue is irrelevant! Prop 37 was a BAD law unsupported by evidence which would have benefited trial lawyers and bankrupted food producers and retailers. Don't be fooled by the "pure food" Nazis.

bdiddy63
bdiddy63

Neither L.A. County nor L.A. City have the authority to require condom usage.  Measure B will fall in the courts.  Looking at it in a light most charitable to its principal proponent, it was a well-intentioned idea that cannot possibly be enforced and which impermissibly infringes freedom of expression. 

Marlena Bond
Marlena Bond

perfect example of people getting in their own way, profit before saving lives, leave the U.S. who cares

Michèle Evans
Michèle Evans

Measure B was created by the AIDS foundation as a way to rain on everyones bareback parade. And think about it, 37 failed and B won, because no one gave a shit about voting. LA weekly and the times were publishing articles about these things, weeeeks ago. PLUS all kinds of stupid shit gets put on the ballot and passes because foundations and companies like Monsanto who have the $$$ know people don't give a shit and wont vote, or read for that matter.

jasons0660
jasons0660

I'm glad this measure passed.  The "straight" porn industry is homophobic towards men and needed to be put in its place.  The women who do "straight" porn are prostitutes who are often very homophobic towards gay and bisexual men.  These women needed to be put in their place.  The passing of this measure is the gay community's revenge against the "straight" porn industry.

NobodysFool
NobodysFool

 @jasons0660

Industry needs to be "Put in its place".  "These women needed to be put in their place".

 

Fortunately, we have people like you to tell everyone of us mere mortals what to think and do.  What other suggestions to you have O Wise One? 

Rich Wise
Rich Wise

Hey LA weekly - nobody gives a rats ass - whats up with Monsanto and prop 37?

awdweekly
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I dont get this particular measure.  Just let adult actors/actresses do what they want.  It's their lives.  Now if this law is indeed about protecting the public, I would have to ask what are the chances that someone in public is going to have sex with an adult actor/actress? And if they did and actually contracted STDs, I would say it's their own fault.  If people make poor decisions, they should be accountable for it.

vivthomas.com
vivthomas.com

Thats absolutely crazy news - I hear many large porn companies already planning to move out.

jasons0660
jasons0660

 @vivthomas.com

 I don't like your company, viv thomas.  You have a bisexual double standard.  I find it insulting that you present lesbianism as something that should titillate sleazy straight guys.  Get lost and take your productions with you.

vivthomas.com
vivthomas.com

 @jasons0660 What you like and don't like is entirely up to you, and we respect that Jason. However, just for the sake of fact, we have a large proportion of ladies in our customer base (not just sleazy straight guys as you put it) and they constantly praise our attempts to portray porn in a tasteful, sensual light and with higher production values than the average porn company out there.

stevenwyork
stevenwyork

Let's hope it's not premature...but let's have a major round of applause for the people responsible for Measure B Passing:

Michael Whiteacre, Mark Kernes (I gotta give him props for building Astro Boy too!), Nina Hartley, Diane Duke, Steve Hirsch, Mr Marcus, "PornLaw" Michael Fattorosi and James Lee!

 

Thank you so much for your thousands of angry posts thinking this measure would be decided on internet message boards, attacking any scientific study with the zeal of Karl Rove that sky-high STI rates in the industry were lies, defending forged STD tests with $2500 retainers, the ridiculous claims against condoms use (cancer causing? really?) and violating any integrity the current testing system has by cherry picking supposedly private data (280 full time porn actors/actresses in LA? really?) to suit your needs! 

 

And a great many thanks for running such a smooth public campaign! Bringing tranny-loving "Advanced Sexuality" semi-bottom Kurt Lockwood out of the woodworked-closet to really bring home the message in the final few days was a true stroke of genuis!THANK YOU, THANK YOU!! 

stan
stan

This will do nothing except drive one of california's most profitable industries somewhere else.

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