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Proposition 37: Support Declines for GMO Labeling Law

Categories: Election 2012

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It's been a bad week for the Yes on 37 campaign, the group fighting to pass a ballot measure that would require labeling of genetically engineered foods sold in California.

On Monday, another California political pundit urged voters to be wary of the measure, and on Tuesday, a pair of new polls painted a grim picture: support for the measure has experienced a major decline in recent weeks.

Despite all that, yesterday, Yes on 37 sent out a email blast to supporters with a contrary subject line; "Our opposition is worried," the campaign declared.

"Yesterday, they [No on 37] raised an additional $537,000," Judson Parker writes, explaining the money came from Nestle, Campbell's and Unilever. "They would not raise and spend this money if they thought they had the election in the bag. Their internal polling must be making them worried."

Another conclusion would be that external polling has Yes on 37 worried, and No on 37 thinking they may have a shot a winning for the first time since the ballot measure was introduced in April. The well-funded opposition, bankrolled by Monsanto and other processed food manufacturers, has lagged by a 3 to 1 margin for much of the campaign.

On Tuesday though, the USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll showed Yes on 37's lead shrinking to 44% in favor of the measure and 42% opposed.

A second poll, from California Business Roundtable and the Pepperdine University School of Public Policy, released the same day had even worse news for supporters of Prop 37. It showed opposition to the measure outweighing support for the first time, with 50.5% of likely voters saying they would vote against the ballot measure, and just 39.1% saying they would support it.

Yes on 37 attributes the precipitous decline in the polls to an advertising blitz by the corporations hell-bent on defeating the measure, but newspapers across the state have also expressed concerns that the language of the proposed law could create conditions for a perfect storm of litigation aimed at farmers and retailers.

The latest pundit to express concern about the proposition is Dan Walters, political columnist for the Sacramento Bee, who wrote on Monday that Prop 37 is "one measure that should give voters particular pause."

Per Walters: "The downright weird wording of the measure, with myriad definitions and exemptions, appears to set legal traps, giving lawyers who specialize in class-action lawsuits new territory to explore, much as occurred with Proposition 65, a 1980s-vintage measure requiring signs for products and locales with even the slightest connection to cancer."

Last week, LA Weekly published a piece explaining the ways Prop 37, with its reliance on civilian lawsuits was similar to Proposition 65.


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Rev_Richard
Rev_Richard

And why have the last three Whitehouse families insisted on everything being Organic?  Because they are just quirky like that? And why have Monsanto employees refused to allow GMO's in their own cafeteria?  I can't even come up with a sarcastic answer for this.  Why do 50 countries including China either ban or require labeling for GMO's but the USA and Canada don't. Is it because we are so much smarter than anybody else? Or maybe they believe in "junk science" as the Monsanto flunkies put it. Exactly what are the testing procedures required by the FDA for GMO's?  Did you know that very little govt testing is done, and the FDA relies on the manufacturer's internal test results?  And why did the FDA install key logger software and spyware on their scientist's computers after negative evidence was being leaked?  I guess that is their way of making sure our food is safe.  The views expressed in this piece are either based upon complete ignorance or calculated propaganda.  I cannot abide by either.

Rev_Richard
Rev_Richard

This was never a food safety issue for the Bio-techs. They know it is unsafe. This was always a legal issue for them.  If this passes, then it opens the door to more people questioning how these products were so easily introduced into our food supply. Mainstream media will have no choice but to recognize the will of the people.  It is Pandora's box for Monsanto. As in most cases, the information is available if you look hard enough.  Most Americans are too lazy and are willing to be lead around by the nose. They are easily suseptible to big money propaganda.  All Monsanto has to do is tell them everything is ok, and the more they see it the quicker they believe. Monsanto has spent a fortune in payoffs, destroying scientist reputations, advertising, and now creating false polls all in the effort of hiding the truth...which they have done before. If this fails to pass, I will be moving to a sane country and give up my citizenship.  I will have lost all faith in American's ability to prevent their own demise as well as mine.   

stevephilllips1
stevephilllips1

I posted this on the LA times, and I'll post in here for Mr. wagner, as he is a prolific contributor.

For Robert Wager:

Robert, you have posted here quite a lot. Thank you for your insights and opinions. I do not think most people reading these posts are interested in thetechnical studies you have provided. The truth is, we all know scientists can be bought and sold, and we know scientific research can be manipulated to meet the ends of industry. Just look at how heavily funded university botany and agriculture programs are by biotech companies. I believe most university grants for research come from companies like Monsanto, as well as student scholarships. That is certainly the case her in CA at UC Davis. I think many of us also know what happens to scientists who do not tow the party line--they are discredited, as was Arpad Putszai (sp), who was thankfully later vindicated by 30 of his peers, leading scientists at good universities. So let me ask you some concrete questions that the readers here can relate to.

Let's take the case of BT toxin sweet corn, recently released by Monsanto. Do you eat it yourself? Do your wife and children? Or do you seek out conventional corn, or even so-called orgainc, for your own consumption?

Are you affiliated with any academic program that receives research funding or grants from the biotech industry? From the sophistication of your posts, I am assuming you are a biologist or botanist.

Do you yourself receive research money or any kind of money from Monsanto?

Or are you a free spirit who is sharing this information with us without anything to gain economically, either directly or indirectly?

 

yinyangdoc
yinyangdoc

Robert Wager, any comments?

http://www.cjly.net/deconstructingdinner/011008transcript.htm

...Following these articles, some interesting comments appeared on a blog hosted by Canadian Content.net. Some of the comments appear to be made by Saskatchewan farmers. And while the following allegations cannot be verified, they're worth repeating. One comment referring to Robert Wager reads this, "He ignores inconvenient data, and hasn't got a clue about farming, but here's the coolest thing he takes money from Monsanto to cover his travel costs when making speeches." Another comment reads, "Everyone knows he is a paid lakie of monsanto."...

 

Daniel
Daniel

Coolest, cruelist? Comment so far:

"Hamsters fed GMO diets are mostly sterile in the third generation. Look how many fertility clinics there are now? What will you say to your granddaughter decades from now when she can't conceive?

 "We believed we were protecting some grocer somewhere from a lawsuit so we didn't vote to label genetically modified food" "We kept on eating it and didn't pay attention."  "I'm sorry Honey.... Maybe you can adopt a child from China?"

 

Jean
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What would you think of an industry that swore up and down that their products were safe and that people  that questioned them were wrong? “Show me the proof” is what you would say?

Just like cigarettes, asbestos, pesticides, Agent Orange, L-Trytophan, Thalidomide, PolyChlorinatedBiphenyls, Bovine Growth Hormone, BPA,  the biotech industry has its hired experts to testify that their products are safe and there’s nothing to worry about. Just like the victims of those industries, once you are sick and dying it’s too late. Parents, are you going to risk your unborn child, your infant, your children, or your own health to their promises and reassurances? What’s more important their profits or your health?

Yes on 37. Just label the genetically modified creations in the supermarket. We’re smart enough to use that freedom to do what we think is right.

green2Horn
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Noticing the BigFoodCorpse shills everywhere... To cut the crap, if GMO and GE food is so great, why ain't it labeled now?

p_eronenicholas
p_eronenicholas like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Analysis, GMO crop Technology, Scientists agreeing or disagreeing, wether  GMO's are good or bad, WE, THE CONSUMER HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE EATING!!  JUST A SIMPLE LABLE!!   YES ON 37!!   PLASIN AND SIMPLE!!

Shannon
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Here's the spokesman for the NO on 37 campaign, the guy that keeps popping up on those million dollar TV ad buys.

"Dr." Miller, who has appeared in TV ads arguing against Prop 37, is a founding member of a now defunct tobacco front group that tried to discredit the links between cigarettes and cancer, has repeatedly called for the reintroduction of DDT, fronted for an oil industry funded climate change denial group, and claimed that people exposed to radiation from the Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster “may have benefited from it.”

Tobacco-Asbestos-DDT-Agent Orange-Pesticides-PCBs-Thalidomide-Thalates-BPA and finally,

-Genetically Modified Food...

All “Perfectly Safe!” With lots of doctors testifying that they are misunderstood, vital for the economy etc.

How can these people stand to look at them self in the mirror?

 

 

 

 

Shannon
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$Millions to billions in advertising? You MonsantoBots are really funny! Here's how much  "robert's" employers have spent as of October 26th. It's far more by now. The stench of corporate desperation!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/prop-37-opponents_n_2023719.html

"Monsanto - $7,100,500,DuPont - $4,900,000 Pepsi - $2,145,400 Bayer - $2,000,000 Dow - $2,000,000 BASF - $2,000,000 Syngenta - $2,000,000 Kraft Foods - $1,950,000 Coca-Cola - $1,455,500 Nestle - $1,315,600 General Mills - $1,135,000 ConAgra - $1,077,000 Kellogg’s - $790,000 Smithfield - $684,000

And here's a list of companies that have supported Prop 37:

Mercola.com - $1,115,000 Nature’s Path - $610,000 Dr. Bronner’s - $369,000 Lundberg - $251,000 Udis/EarthBalance/Glutino - $102,000 Clif Bar- $100,000 Organic Valley - $100,000 Amy’s - $100,000 Annie’s - $50,000 Nutiva - $50,000 Frey Vineyards - $35,000

We'll let the numbers speak for themselves."

GMOs cause cancer, autism, allergies, arthritis, gluten sensitivity

and infertility. It would be great to ban them. I'll settle for just labeling them. Shannon

robert.wager
robert.wager

AAAS, AMA, NAS, Royal Society, EFSA, ANZFA, WHO, UN-FAO, etc etc all supoort the safe conclusion for GM crops and food.

Why is it that these scientific bodies opinions can be swept aside so easily with claims of bias yet the research sponsored by the organic industry (which has spend millions to billions on anti-GMO advertising)  is accepted as not biased? 

Brendas
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Polls: USC gets millions from Monsanto in grants. The Grocery Manufacturers Association selling the processed genetically modified junk food is the L.A. Times biggest advertiser. Their poll is suspect.

Wager, still waiting for a link or two to  peer reviewed scientific studies demonstrating the safety of GMOs. That's the way it's done in the scientific community; A researcher publishes their experiment details, lab notes, math, conclusions in a reputable science journal and then their peers in the scientific world vet it for accuracy. Out of all these "thousands of studies" you claim have been done, why can't you come up with even one reference????????

AAAS? Quotations from industry trade groups that make money off a technology are not an impartial endorsement of it.

My sick daughter who had asthma, allergies and skin disorders is now symptom free after going  on a GMO free diet. It took a lot of research to figure out that diet. It's not fair to working parents for them to have to do scientific research in the cereal aisle.

yes on 37

Any person experiencing symptoms that their doctor cannot explain should watch the Genetic Roulette Movie.

 

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Brendas as for Genetic Roulette, a finer collection of pseudo-science is hard to find.  Have a look at academicsreview.org to see the proof

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Brendas Here is the links again

AAAS Board of Directors: Legally Mandating GM Food Labels Could “Mislead and Falsely Alarm Consumers” http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2012/1025gm_statement.shtml

 

and

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18328408

VeronicaB
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If it comes down to me having a smaller chance of getting breast cancer and my children having healthier lives, I will choose that option over any harm that 37 might cause some corporation in future profits.

 

Monplanto
Monplanto like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Forget your health! We have your best interests at heart!

Nothing good has ever come from people knowing what they're ingesting, or inhaling.  We are a billion dollar a day company that is really concerned about the three cents or less that it may cost every Californian to know what he or she is eating. That really adds up you know! That's why we're spending a million and a half a day to put up these NO on Prop 37 radio and TV ads, to warn you of this impeding horror.

It's the least we can do for you.

Gerard Kent
Gerard Kent

63 countries have a GMO labels its time for california to have GMO on all foods

Susan
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>>>>>>>>>>>>ONE LINK<<<<<<<<<<<

to a peer reviewed scientific study showing the safety of GMOs then?

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Susan How about this:

This should be of interest to people:

A Decade of EU-Funded GMO research 2001-2010

The 50 research projects can be grouped into the following

principal areas:

• Environmental Impacts of GMO;

• GMO and Food Safety;

• GMOs for biomaterials and biofuels –

.

It is evident from this grouping that many of the research

projects have been launched to address not only the scientific

unknowns but, more importantly, public concerns about the

potential environmental impact of GMOs, about food safety,

the co-existence of GM and non-GM crops, and risk assessment

strategies….The main conclusion

to be drawn from the efforts of more than 130 research

projects, covering a period of more than 25 years of research,

and involving more than 500 independent research groups, is

that biotechnology, and in particular GMOs, are not per se

more risky than e.g. conventional plant breeding technologies.

daulman
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Prop 37 failing, who writes this stuff? Who would NOT want to know what is in their food? They are collecting signatures right now in Washington State to put this labeling on the ballot up there. 

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @daulman I am curious daulman.  Are you intersted in knowing if the food you eat is the product of ionizing radiation mutagenesis or chemical mutagenesis?  Strange those two breeding techniques are not part of the prop?

Phil
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The A.M.A.,? A trade group for those that  make money off sickness and expensive pharmaceutical, surgical and radiological treatments? Yeah, what do they have to say about people taking responsibility for their own health?

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Phil talking about health, I hope everybody heard about the E.coli 0157:H7 contaminated organic spinach being recalled right now.  very dangerous that bacteria.

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Phil So what about the UN-FAO, the WHO the AAAS, the ESFA, the ANZFA, the National Academies of Science (around the world), the Royal Society.  etc

 

Are you suggesting they all got it wrong about the safety of GM crops?

Jennifer
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The "weird wording" was dictated by the Secretary of State's office. A ballot proposition can only address one issue, hence the exemptions.  The "business roundtable" and Pepperdine are trying to dissuade grass roots support for people donating a few bucks to put one or two commercials on the air.Their poll is bogus. Monsanto is spending over a million dollars per day on No ads.

Your average 18 year old has been eating GMOs all their life. Is this generation healthier than the last? 1 in 88 kids now has autism. Used to be one in 1,500. Kids are dying after eating one peanut. Adult onset diabetes in children. Puberty at 10 years old, Babies with weird rare cancers. Pink ribbons everywhere. Prostate cancer, breast cancer, shaved heads, acid reflux, Crohn's disease, arthritis, thyroid disease, gluten sensitivity, all these "new" diseases appearing.  Horribly expensive medications raking in the cash though.

Hamsters fed GMO diets are mostly sterile in the third generation. Look how many fertility clinics there are now? What will you say to your granddaughter decades from now when she can't conceive?

 "We believed we were protecting some grocer somewhere from a lawsuit so we didn't vote to label genetically modified food" "We kept on eating it and didn't pay attention."  "I'm sorry Honey.... Maybe you can adopt a child from China?"

Proposition 37 is about our right to read a simple label added after the fat and nutrition content. 

p.s. There were no safety studies. 90 day rat trials. That's it. No on 37 is free to rebuke me by positing a link to a peer reviewed human trial. There are none.

OUR GENERATION IS THE LAB RAT.

 

 

 

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Jennifer Perhaps you are unaware of the huge amount of safety testing.  The fact is GM crops and food are tested 10-50 times that of other foods.  There are a great many myths out there about GM crops and food.  The proponents of prop37 know this and plan to use that huge body of mis-informed public to work against  GM crops and food .

athikerin05
athikerin05

@robert.wager Clearly you either work for Monsanto or one of there cronies or are being paid to spout your lies here, how can you live with yourself? I assume the money helps you buy organic so you don't have to worry about GMOs. People ask you questions, and all you reply back with is the same debunked AAAS link.

yinyangdoc
yinyangdoc

 @robert.wager  @athikerin05 

Robert Wager, any comments?

http://www.cjly.net/deconstructingdinner/011008transcript.htm

...Following these articles, some interesting comments appeared on a blog hosted by Canadian Content.net. Some of the comments appear to be made by Saskatchewan farmers. And while the following allegations cannot be verified, they're worth repeating. One comment referring to Robert Wager reads this, "He ignores inconvenient data, and hasn't got a clue about farming, but here's the coolest thing he takes money from Monsanto to cover his travel costs when making speeches." Another comment reads, "Everyone knows he is a paid lakie of monsanto."...

 

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @Jennifer I believe this quote from the AAAS statement explains your hampster report.

Occasional claims that feeding GM foods to animals can cause health problems have not stood up to rigorous scientific scrutiny, AAAS said.

robert.wager
robert.wager

Would you like to see the same opinion from the American Medical Association? 

green2Horn
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Only paid shills and lackeys (for Monsanto, DuPont, Dow Chemical, ConAgra, Pepsico and the like) have the energy to be posting against labeling GMO's... Think about it...  Friends don't let friends eat poison, let alone encourage them to do so unknowingly, or otherwise....   Like friends say when they love you: "Take good care of yourself" - VOTE YES on PROP 37!...

Noreen Peacefrurheart
Noreen Peacefrurheart

Yes on 37!! Did you know that the attorney for Monsanto is the commissioner for the FDA?

robert.wager
robert.wager

This should be of interest to people:

A Decade of EU-Funded GMO research 2001-2010

The 50 research projects can be grouped into the following

principal areas:

• Environmental Impacts of GMO;

• GMO and Food Safety;

• GMOs for biomaterials and biofuels –

.

It is evident from this grouping that many of the research

projects have been launched to address not only the scientific

unknowns but, more importantly, public concerns about the

potential environmental impact of GMOs, about food safety,

the co-existence of GM and non-GM crops, and risk assessment

strategies….The main conclusion

to be drawn from the efforts of more than 130 research

projects, covering a period of more than 25 years of research,

and involving more than 500 independent research groups, is

that biotechnology, and in particular GMOs, are not per se

more risky than e.g. conventional plant breeding technologies.

peabody3000
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 @robert.wager This is not like traditional breeding, but GE crops use recombinant DNA technology to cross the trans-species barrier by inserting virus and/or bacteria plus antibiotic-resistant markers into the genome of the GE seed / crop which means such are part of every cell. This is done to "achieve a TRAIT."

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @peabody3000 correct GM crop technology is by far the most precise method we have ever used to create new crops.  It is the only type of breeding that examines potential allergen content.  Fact is the years of Internationally accepted testing protocols used to examine EVERY GM crop before it is marketed make GM crops probably safer than food from other breeding methods.  Or so say every single world food safety authority that has looked at GM crops.

p_eronenicholas
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 @robert.wager  @peabody3000 I Undeerstand ONE thing in this issue about prop 37. THE CONSUMER HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THEWY ARE EATING REGARDLESS OF WETHER GMO'S ARE SAFE OR UNSAFE> WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW> BOTTOM LINE!! END OF STORY!!  YES ON 37!!

athikerin05
athikerin05

@robert.wager blatant lies robert, note your sources.

peabody3000
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 @robert.wager the misunderstandings are yours. i do not claim that GM foods are any safer, or any more dangerous than non-GM foods. i do claim that the introduction of entire sequences of genetic material from bacteria and viruses, as opposed to random single mutations, is a process whose implications are not fully understood at any level

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @peabody3000 No, every single world food safety authority agree GM crops and food are as safe or safer than food from conventional breeding methods.  I hope that clears up your misunderstanding.

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @peabody3000 Ok lets be clear here.  the insert event is random (just like every single DNA mutation in every single type of plant breeding.) then the exact nature of where, and what effects the insertion has are know ONLY for GM crops.

 

the next generation of GM crops will use zinc finger nucleases to direct the exact insertional location.  Stay tuned.

peabody3000
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 @robert.wager every food safety authority in the world disagrees that inserting bacterial and/or viral genetic material into plants is an inexact science, and that the results of doing so can be unpredictable?? if thats the case then i am VERY comfortable disagreeing with every such authority, and with assuming that you are an industry shill

robert.wager
robert.wager

 @peabody3000 It would appear you are unaware of the extent of analysis done on all GM crops before they are commercialized. further the sixteen years of commercial use and the 25+ years of research with out any evidence to support the doom and gloom predictions should give you pause in believing that.  Every single world food safety authority disagree with you.  National Academies of science around the disagree with you, medical organizations from the WHO to the AMA disagree with you.  They ALL agree on the  safe use of GM crops and food.  You may believe different but that in no way makes your beliefs true.

peabody3000
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 @robert.wager incorrect. even if allergens are tested for, the implications of inserting genetic information from a bacteria or virus are far from precise and the science is very far from exact. those genetic sequences may produce a range of results far beyond our abilities to predict or identify

green2Horn
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 @robert.wager Is it ROB or WAGER? ....STILL, the quiet, measured, rational pro GMO "science-blessed" trot-out of the "studies" and flaccid reasoning as to how GMO's ... just don't harm us, at least as much as any bred vegetable could... Note the bullet points and "talking" highlights with words like interest and evident and conclusion...  to create a bend-over-and-you-won't-feel-a-thing-kinda mood... PLEASE JOIN ME & VOTE YES ON PROP 37! ASK ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, TOO!

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