Turkey Abuse: Watch The Animal Rights Video That Will Ruin Your Thanksgiving

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Turkey Rights: humanitarian violence-free killing.

jo005

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How did this piece get published? Was it written by one of your interns from Jr. High? Honestly, I'm shocked at the pedestrian, ill-informed, self-absorbed, childish, rubbish that gets published these days. And yet, such moronic objections are sadly predictable: http://www.thisveganlife.org/10-common-objections-to-going-vegan/

GoVegan

This moron of a journalist is now saying on his Twitter page that most of the comments are about corn! What a joke!! Only 2 comments by readers on here are about corn you idiot! But I guess you'll want to count this one too won't you?

CuriousOmnivore

Please educate me, what would be considered a humane method of animal harvest?

GoVegan

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@CuriousOmnivore There is none. Murder is not humane.

CuriousOmnivore

GoVegan should go read a dictionary and learn that murder pertains to the killing of humans and not animals. I respect your choice to be a vegan despite you trying to force your lifestyle onto others. Good luck in your futile cause.

AppropriateOmnivore

Losing our grassland isn't humane either. We need pastured animals to keep our soils rich so we can grow our grass and other plants.

ellowe13

@AppropriateOmnivore

Pastured animals don't keep soils rich, they trample and consume to the root, native vegetation causing erosion and emit waste products that contaminate ground water.

Additionally, for every POUND of beef produced it takes 12 pounds of grain, 55 sq feet of forest/land and 2500 gallons of water.

That same amount land, grain and water could be used to feed several thousand people instead!

And having been born and raised on a dairy farm I actually do know what I'm talking about. And yes, I am a vegan.

AppropriateOmnivore

@jenanastasia @AppropriateOmnivore @jellybean If we keep them as outdoor pets, then we'd be competing for crops. I'm going to eat my turkey and Thanksgiving and no vegan is going to stop me.

jenanastasia

@AppropriateOmnivore @jellybean And still, there is no ethical justification for murdering animals, unless you keep them as outdoor pets and use their manure

AppropriateOmnivore

@jellybean No soy is given to pastured animals. Soy is for factory farming, which I oppose.

AppropriateOmnivore

@jellybean Again, something that can be used in people's homes, but animal fertilizer is the best solution for restoring grasslands and to get the full permaculture with crops.

jellybean

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The soy which is fed to the animals that are bred and eventually compete with humans for food. When there are so many people go hungry in poor urban areas, animals are forcefully fed in farms with food that could be given to humans.

jellybean

Here's an alternative without having to breed animals for exploitation purposes: http://humanurehandbook.com/downloads/Chapter_6.pdf

AppropriateOmnivore

@jellybean Oh yeah, fertilizer that come from chemicals. That's a great alternative. We need animals in order to grow or crops. Veganism leads to deserts. Us raising our animals for meat and poultry allow you to grow your soy.

jellybean

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There is always other alternatives. There's dozens of kinds of fertilizers. But that's not the point, since there are many ways of fertilizing lands. The main point is the ethical aspect of exploiting these animals. You can come up with millions of absurd reasons to justify enslaving and killing animals for profit and food (fertilizing land is one of them), but the bigger picture here is that meat consumers just shut down their conscience when they realize their role in perpetuating animal abuse. So is it the responsibility of those turkeys that they are treated inhumanely just so people can fertilize their lands?

AppropriateOmnivore

@jellybean Compost can work for small gardens, but animal fertilizers are need for larger scales.

jellybean

Heard of compost?

AppropriateOmnivore

@jellybean The areas I'm talking about aren't forest and jungles, but lands that have been destroyed by the monocultures of plants that we're farming. There are areas that we're unable to grow anything. Raising animals there will be allow us to replenish the soil. Joel Salatin's Polyface Farms was started on land where previously nothing was able to grow. And there are forests and jungles cut down to grow fruits and vegetables.

jellybean

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Grasslands for animal farming used to be forests and jungles which did fine without farm animals until humans cut down all the trees. Also, do you see any of the turkeys sad feet on the grass where they're supposed to be? No, farm animals are caged and exploited. So your argument on needing pastured animals to keep soils rich is absurd and irrelevant.

SeriouslyLame

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What a disgusting excuse for news or journalism. Your utter disregard for the subject at hand, practically mocking what's being done to these animals and the people working tirelessly to have it exposed, is rather pathetic. The L.A. Weekly should really hire someone who can take serious issues seriously, and leave the chiding and joking to the plethora of articles they post about condoms and porn. Or what, is that something you take seriously and therefore wouldn't dare joke about?

jschluet7

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Wow. This counts as journalism?

tcfsm

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Mr. Dennis Romero, You must understand, as animal rights activists, we are constantly fighting an uphill battle with EVERYONE. We live in an apathetic society and we're always reminded of animal cruelty though our friends and family who eat meat, through excessive advertising, by walking down the street and getting a strong whiff of BBQ etc. So we tend to be an intense and emotional bunch. We just find articles like yours to be insensitive... I hope that you can understand and move towards being more enlightened about our cause. Wishing you all the best and a cruelty-free Thanksgiving! Cheers!

jenanastasia

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This guy calling himself a journalist reminds me why I don't like conservative republicans and Catholics. Blabbing all about the bullshit of sanctity of life, sanctity of marriage rather than the quality of life and marriage. So to justify the cruelty of animals is the sanctity of his dinner. Not really sure why he wrote this piece of crap slamming animal rights people and justifying the cruelty towards these turkeys. Maybe just to put out there his ignorance and pride of his ignorance?

AppropriateOmnivore

The Mercy for Animals video just shows the problems with factory farmed turkey. Buy pastured turkey from a local farm.

jo005

@AppropriateOmnivore That's what I did. I bought a turkey from a small, local farm. Soon after, I went vegan. Why? Here's the story: http://www.thisveganlife.org/the-last-turkey-i-ever-bought/

jellybean

I have a better idea: how about starting a pastured dogs business. They could be left running around happily and when they have enough meat, take them to the slaughterhouse.

karenmanfrede

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@azober local, organic, free-range--most of those animals are still treated inhumanely.

GoVegan

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@azober ‎'The slaughtering of an animal is a bloody and violent act, and death does not come easy for those who want to live'. - Colleen Patrick-Goudreau

AppropriateOmnivore

@GoVegan Can't go vegan. Turkey doesn't grow on trees.

free866

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It's really not about "animal rights" it's more about what right do we have to treat living breathing creatures like this? That video is so heinous I think people emotionally shut down and really don't know how to respond. The good news is that we all have a choice whether or not we want to support this industry.

djromero moderator editortopcommenter

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You guys gotta lighten up. You're my-way-or-the-highway attitudes are why a lot of people have a hard time taking your movement seriously, frankly. Read the whole article. I'm not anti-animal rights. I was just ribbing you. It worked. Did you read this part?

Yep, turkey production is a dirty business, it would seem. The group claims that the beasts are bred to grow too big too fast and end up with bone defects, crippling deformities and even heart attacks.

NotAmused

@djromero sir, whatever your intention, it seems that it was not interpreted as "ribbing". Good to know for the future. thank you.

jenanastasia

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@djromero So you are entertained by the reactions of people who disagree with animal cruelty without considering the consequences of your published writing's message? When people in the mainstream are already justifying such torture towards animals, people who are concerned about animal welfare during Thanksgiving don't need this trashy, ignorant writing piece to remind us about how apathetic this society is. It's like splashing salt water to an open wound. You are such a disgrace to journalism for displaying such insensitivity.

referencegirl

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@djromero Since you are the "professional" writer, any misunderstanding is your fault, not your readers'. While you do discuss some of the facts, you have wrapped them up in a package of sarcasm and derision.

free866

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@djromero DJ--your responses here are disappointing--you seem very caught up in "animal rights'" and "the movement" with sweeping statements like "you guys gotta lighten up"...animal agriculture today is a putrid business --anybody that doesn't see that isn't paying attention.

AmyWC

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The most disturbing aspect of this article is that the quoted material suggests that breeding, confining and killing a turkey in a lawful manner is not "horrific cruelty and violence." It is horrific that we as a society sentence these sentient and innocent creatures to death from the moment they're born. I consider it a privilege that I'm able to opt out of this systematic and institutionalized violence and miscarriage of justice.

polaroid

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Jackass. He is a real asshole.

kamilfo

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Not funny. Not professional. Dennis J Romero should be ashamed of himself.

LA Weekly - choose your journalists more carefully.. Disappointed.

djromero moderator editortopcommenter

You guys took the bait. Thanks.

NotAmused

@djromero please don't try to act like you were a jerk on purpose.

andreihp42 topcommenter

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@djromero why are you baiting people? Isn't your job as a journalist to provide facts in an objective way?

referencegirl

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@djromero What bait? Were you hoping a bunch of people would come on here and cry? Do you run around kicking little girls to?

pixelpest

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@djromero

Ya you aren't very intelligent are you.

djromero moderator editortopcommenter

@pixelpest Stop with the insults. It makes you look silly. If you want animal rights to be taken seriously, grow up.

referencegirl

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@djromero @pixelpest Because setting a trap is so serious and mature.

GoVegan

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Does corn scream when you harvest it? No. Does it try to run away when you go near it? No. Corn is not a sentient being. Idiot 'journalist'. What a stupid article, written by some corpse eater who has obviously just had his first glimpse of animal cruelty and is pissed off that his conscience is going to getting at him every time he eats his beloved McCorpse burger and scrambled chicken periods.

djromero moderator editortopcommenter

@GoVegan Go, seriously, you're taking my corn comments literally? Are you ... challenged?

GoVegan

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@djromero Are YOU challenged? Why would you put that pathetic line there if you weren't being serious? Because you're a complete, utter asshole? Take your pick. Are you stupid or an asshole?

NotAmused

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Your attitude is not flattering to you, nor is it humorous. Why don't you be more open in your contempt for people who oppose cruelty? Just say that it is ok with you to abuse feeling birds, that you side with people who kick them and hit them. Be an honest sociopath, not an unfunny humorist.