Jorge Mario Bergoglio: Is The New Pope Latino?

Latins are spaniards, italians, portuguese, french, romanians and their DIRECT DESCENDANTS ALL OVER THE WORLD... the amerindians, mestizos, and mulatos that get to be latinos in the USA are not only confused about their own roots, but just affected by the typical American ignorance that surrounds them!!! yes americans in general are pretty stupid and ignorant!

I am latin american (not to be mistaken with a chicano from la or a puerto rican from ny or a miami cuban, i am a REAL LATIN AMERICA FROM LATIN AMERICA) and no one even talks about this, neither they do in europe, nor IN asia.... it's only in backwards racial places like america where a topic THIS STUPID would even be discussed!

STUPID TOPICS FOR A STUPID NATION

Latin has become a generic term.

Fact: Latins are a tribe at least from 900 bc from Italy they are one of a few tribes who eventually became  The Romans .It is indeed a blood line and  I suppose somewhat of a culture.

In ancient times there was a country or state of some sort called Latium there is today a city called Latina in Italy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latins_(Italic_tribe) read for yourself

In this day and age if anyone can be called Latin it would be the Italian.

Where you are born does not make you "Latin"  in a literal sense

Groups within the Italian peninsula. Ligures Veneti Etruscans Piceni Umbrians Latins Osci Messapii Greeks

Hey Bariloche: what you wrote now make alot of sense: "Latino" is such a made-up word, trying to group such diverse people under one US-label is a farce. I visited Buenos Aires last year, and was surprised (though now makes perfect sense) to see Scandinavian-like blond-blue-eyed people everywhere speaking Spanish. Argentina strikes me as a white European country of Spaniards, Northern Europeans, and not the brown native-American faces you see on US television when they talk about Latinos or Hispanics (guess they mean Mexican-Americans?). Guess American TV news will now "have to get with the program" since clearly we've been fed a ton of BS here in the States, and with just a little awareness and research, that concocted "Latino" label doesn't hold up when faced with the reality of Argentina's white European population. And I am guessing that US Mexican-Americans sadly don't know they are mistakenly self-using a label that does not mean anything and in the end does not connect them with anyone or nicely bundle them under a real group. I read that Argentines don't use and don't see merit in such a made-up "Latino" label as they in the end are white Europeans. Quite funny that news outlets aren't reporting on this, kind of scary.

Interesting exchange. Perhaps if the US Educational system and the US Media were a bit more earnest, robust and intellectually comprehensive, the artifice of the "Latino" term now widely and improperly used (solely in the US without any real reflection for what one is actually saying/meaning) likely would cease to exist as it is vapid and meaningless. Recall that said Latino term was invented primarily in the context of the then-discriminated Mexican-American indigent and very AMERI-INDIAN/brown-complexion farmers toiling in US fields; an entirely contrived term that subsequently was quickly adopted by said Mexican-American farmers' nascent academic liberal representatives in the US who attempted to lasso the US political system to somehow gain improved traction for their deplorable farm-hand living conditions. Next: fast-forward 40-to-50 years to the present and a term that was created back then without much thought is today mislabeled by the US Media and moronic politicians on network TV to falsely cover anyone "apparently connected" to the Spanish language and originating from "Latin America"; who today lives with very little real cultural ties to European Spanish heritage. It's a fantastical joke, no wonder Argentines (white Europeans from Spain/Germany/Italy) themselves don't regard the Pope or their fellow citizens as Latino.

Definition of Latino: Person of Latin american origin, regardless of race. Includes Mexicans, Bolivians, Chileans, Argentineans, etc. Don’t include spaniards, italians or portuguese (they are latin people, but not latino or latin american).

The definition according to americans: Brown person who speaks spanish. Includes non-white Mexicans and latin americans and other peoples of spanish origin. Include Spanish people from spain if they are ‘brown’
Ex: Antonio Banderas, Penelope Cruz.

First definition: He is latino!.
Second definition: He is not latino!

Unfortunately, because of American ignorance, the second definition prevails.

For your reading pleasure, an overview on Hispanic vs Latino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans.  Discuss

UNBELIEVEABLE HOW UNEDUCATED OUR COUNTRY IS.   HISPANICS SPEAK SPANISH, NOT LATIN.  THE LATIN LANGUAGE ORIGINATED IN ROME, WHICH IS LOCATED IN ITAY.  THE ITALIAN LANGUAGE DERIVED FROM LATIN AS DID SPANISH.  ITALIANS ARE THE ORIGINAL LATINOS.  THEY WERE SPEAKING LATIN LONG BEFORE THE AMERICAS EXISTED. DE NIRO DECAPRIO and CUOMO are half breeds.  I guess, part Latino.  LATINO is not a race.

AS FOR THE MEXICANS, RAZA, and CHICANOS, they are the world's most jealous people.  They can't accept the fact that there are other countries with older and stronger traditions than they have.

GET  YOUR HISTORY AND

FACTS STRAIGHT. 

There is NO such thing as a latino or Hispanic RACE!

The issue is how americans define "Latinos"

I mean if you have an Italian father and a German mother and was born in Iowa, you should be considered "pure American".....

If you  have an Italian father and a German mother and was born in Bolivia, you would be considered a "cucaracha" of course....kkkkk

I'm not quite sure how he is being considered the first Latino pope?  

I guess the real question is what is the definition of "Latino"?  

His parents were Italian immigrants to Argentina, a country that is populated mainly by descendents of European immigrants (Italy, Spain, Germany, etc.) where there are almost no people of Asian or African heritage.

If his parents had immigrated to New York from Italy rather than Buenos Aires, he wouldn't be considered any more Latino than Governor Andrew Cuomo, Leonardo DiCaprio,  or Robert De Niro.

What exactly is the definition of Latino?  Someone who speaks a Latin language (Spanish, Portuguese, French, Romanian)?  Someone of "color" who speaks Spanish? Is is it simply the act of being born in a country from Mexico south?  

Some well known Argentines come from decidedly non "latin" roots such as the last President of Argentina Néstor Kirchner who descended from Swiss and Croatian roots, William Brown the Irish founder of the Argentine Navy, and many of Italian ancestry such as well known athletes Gabriela Sabatini, Lionel Messi, Manu Ginobili.  In fact it is estimated that about 60% of the population of Argentina is primarily of Italian extraction.

I'm actually in Argentina right now and the people here are justifiably proud of his nationality, but nobody here is calling him the first Latino Pope.

What qualifies one to be a "Latino" when in reality, he is an old white guy that DNA-wise is no different than Lee Iacocca.

He is definitely Latin American.

Latino - heh, what does that even mean? If you are Dominican and of pure African ancestry, are you Latino? If you Are Mexican of Zapotec roots are you Latino? Does Latino only imply a Spanish heritage? 

To be honest, the whole question is absurd and insulting. He is Argentinean. Just the same, it would be like someone questioning my Americaness because both my parents are Mexican immigrants. What matters is your culture and experience, not your blood.

Maybe you should do one of those racial purity tests like hitler did