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Los Angeles' Filthy, Fecal-Laden, Sickness-Inducing Beaches: Who Should Pay to Treat the Rain Runoff from Oily, Dog-Poop Streets?

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Matthew Mullins
Environmentalists say L.A. rain runoff is a sickening soup.
By Matthew Mullins and Jill Stewart

Update: The Board of Supervisors rejected the Clean Water, Clean Beaches plan today in a big upset, thanks to what many say was exceedingly poor outreach on the massive tax plan to pay for it. See next page for details.

Hundreds of angry people today demanded that the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors toss a years-in-the-making Clean Water Clean Beaches plan to treat the horrific soup that flows off streets, sidewalks, roofs, lawns and lots -- directly into rivers, the Pacific and beaches -- whenever it rains. But who should pay $270 million to treat the filthy rain runoff?

L.A. County's Department of Public Works for months kept its plan -- to tax the county's landowners only -- all but secret. When County Supervisor Gloria Molina got a tiny notice about it, she mistakenly tossed it as junk mail. Apathetic L.A. voters? Not even! Now, 113,696 people have said No to Public Works on its website. And get this: Public Works management spent $3 million creating this PR mess. Colleges, non-profits, many others are slamming the scheme to charge landowners only -- in a region where half the sidewalk-spitters, dog-poop foulers and crankcase drippers are renters, Orange and Ventura Co. commuters and tourists:

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Editor B
Is this behavior landowners' responsibility to fix?
Kirsten James, director of water quality at Heal the Bay, said this morning before the crowded, revved-up Board of Supes hearing that these yawning divisions "should be able to be sorted out in the next few months."

At a January 15 hearing, L.A. County and the enviros got hammered by many groups and people who actually agree that the billions of gallons of filth flowing into Santa Monica Bay and other waterways must be cleansed before hitting the water.

But the fundamental question of "Who should pay?" could set this plan back months or years.

As L.A. County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky told KNX news radio today: "It's going to be very difficult because people are not in a taxing mood right now."

No kidding!

Los Angeles residents resoundingly voted down the Proposition A sales tax hike on March 5, despite the fact that LAPD Police Chief Charlie Beck claimed that "Public safety is now in danger" if voters did not pass Prop. A.

Turns out Beck's spin was pure BS. Chief Beck scared a lot of old folks and people who live in bad neighborhoods. But Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa knew a few days before the March 5 vote that the deficit was far, far lower than he and Beck were saying to the microphones.

Public safety is hardly "in danger" because voters said No.

Villaraigosa kept his little report largely under wraps -- until Los Angeles Times reporter David Zahniser outed him. Nobody knows if Beck was duped by Villaraigosa, or went along with the charade.

Now, Los Angeles County wants to put a property tax on the ballot -- after all that dissembling and exaggerating by Villaraigosa?

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holisticmonkey
Should a tax to clean L.A.'s dog poop-laden runoff be laid just on people with land?
A few politicians were positively poetic with anger at the Board of Supes today, such as a Santa Clarita politician who said:

"If this passes a tax on God's good rain, than I as a fellow politician have a few other great ideas. Perhaps a tax on sunshine, it's free and were not getting our piece. Or a tax on air, this would be a very popular tax because we politicians would have to pay the most, because we generate the most hot air."
Heal the Bay asked Molina and Don Knabe and the rest of the board -- a five-member body that has for decades been controlled by a Democratic majority -- to provide "more certainty" about a bipartisan compromise plan Molina and Knabe had put forth weeks ago.

But today, Supervisors Molina, Knabe and Zev Yaroslavsky were all calling to put the poorly sold Public Works plan on hold indefinitely.

It brings up an old adage, long aimed at Los Angeles City employees rather than Los Angeles County employees: "The Los Angeles Department of Planning is an oxymoron."

UPDATE:
On 3-2 vote, the Board of Supervisors rejected the plan by instead approving a proposal to rework the controversial program. Yaroslavsky commented, "What is clear is that this is not ready for prime-time."

Mark Gold, associate director of UCLA's Institute of the Environment and Sustainability, had asked for its approval, calling the dead-for-now proposal "the most important water quality, water supply and flood control measure that the region has ever seen."


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igortchin
igortchin

Why can't we do what used to work: Fine litterbugs for littering -- starting at a minimum of $250 for the first offense, more for toxic or dangerous substance dumping.  If they don't pay their fine, they can do community service picking up other people's trash along the streets of the trashiest neighborhoods and the areas leading toward the bay, instead.  

The county could put up a website so witnesses can report littering activity and/or post pictures of those trashing the community, law enforcement can follow up and a reward could be paid out of each fine recovered to those reporting the litterbug.  If any law enforcement officer -- from parking enforcement, to city cops to sheriffs deputies -- sees someone in the act of littering, they should have the person clean up their mess immediately while the officer watches or ticket them.  

If the litterer can't provide proper identification to insure that their ticket is paid or that their community service is fulfilled, then have them pay their fine immediately (it only takes a cell phone and one of those "square" card readers) or have them taken into custody until they can be identified for wants, warrants and child support; and someone comes in to pay their fine, plus a processing fee (so the taxpayers aren't out for the cost of feeding and housing the unidentified litterbugs until they are sprung).   Make your money off the fines and clean up the mess with the free labor of those who cannot or who will not pay their fines and take responsibility for their trashy behavior.  People will stop trashing the county only when the county starts punishing those doing the trashing.  

We used to do this sort of thing years ago before there were cell phones with cameras and computer capabilities to catch the perpetrator in the act and on the record via the video.  Some of us remember the anti-littering signs dotting the freeways announcing the amount of the fine and the amount of the reward for reporting the litterbug.  Things were a lot cleaner back then.  

So, instead of looking first at taxing the innocent -- which won't actually do the job intended, if the job intended is to actually clean up our waterways and our beaches -- why not try the carrot and the stick approach to punish the guilty and reward the virtuous?  The carrot of the reward for information and the stick of punishment for the perpetrators of the trash assault on our community and our environment.

smm94
smm94

@igortchin The issue isn't littering. It's stormwater retention/runoff. No one here is doing anything wrong, but the county has to rev up its retention capacity to comply with federal regulations. LAC currently gets 2/3 of water out of county, so this could save us money in the end. We're either going to fund these projects, which can also create jobs, be a new bond measure, or by charging a small, annual fee to landowners.

Rusty Cavender
Rusty Cavender

What happened to all the taxes L.A. has already sucked out of its citizens and businesses?

Rodolfo Orlando Duriez
Rodolfo Orlando Duriez

Orange County does a much better job at keeping our water clean than L.A. Our model has been studied by the Japanese and the Germans. Usually I think O.C. needs to look to LA, but this time I say LA needs to look to OC. Now only if we can get a subwaye established that could connect the downtowns of Santa Ana, Anaheim, Costa Mesa, Newport, Irvine and Laguna Beach. Sigh.

Doug Osborne
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If property owners pay, renters pay their share.

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