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Election '08: Beyond The Palin

by Joe Donnelly
September 4, 2008 10:37 AM

As I was talking to the editor of the LA Weekly this morning about Sarah Palin, I said that I hoped the American people were smart enough to see through this bit of Karl Rove-ian evil genius. Just as I said it, a Ford van, jacked up to monster truck proportions, powered by a 345 horsepower V-8, went barreling down Echo Park Avenue. And I lost some of my hope.

Sarah Palin is stunt casting at its worst. The Rove acolytes working with McCain have foisted a near-bullet proof metaphor upon the American public. How are you supposed to attack Palin, a self-proclaimed hockey mom from rural America who has risen to the top? But attack her is what needs to happen, because she is now the face of the Republican ticket. John McCain can do little, and is expected to do little, to bring the attention back to him. The election, I believe, is now a referendum on her and Barack Obama and who do you think is going to play better to middle America? In one clever trick, the Republicans have turned this election away from the issues at hand and back into the theater in which they have been successful for most of my life -- a cultural war upon which reason turns to ash in the fire of emotion.

It sucks because this woman is beyond the pale. She waves the flag and tells her story and says that she has loved America from day one. Yes, she loved America so much she once seriously courted a militant movement to get Alaska to secede from the Union. Hey, I'm not opposed to secession. I wrote after George Bush got re-elected that California should think about seceding from the union. I was only half joking, but the reason I wrote that was so that we could separate ourselves from the kind of people who are taken by this idiotic cultural-war nonsense that has been so destructive to our country.

But on that note, does Palin represent the kind of culture you wish upon this country? It's a culture that believes, really, in Creationism. It's a culture that believes humans were riding dinosaurs a la Fred Flinstone. I'm not joking. There's actually a Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky -- a $27 million, 60,000 square-foot theme park in which dinosaurs and humans are displayed frolicking as if in the Garden of Eden. It includes a Triceratops with a saddle on it that kids can pretend to ride. A Stegosaurus is aboard Noah's Ark. Accuse me of lacking a sense of humor, but I don't think its funny that someone who is potentially one heartbeat from the presidency believes this shit.

Some argue that George Bush does, too. I rest my case.

Besides that, Palin has a dismal governing record both as mayor of Wasilla (population about 5,000 when she was mayor), a hamlet that was once flush with money that she somehow left $22 million in debt, and as governor of Alaska. Her record as governor is rife with questionable ethics -- including her association with the same fundraising scheme that led to the indictment of Senator Ted Stevens in Alaska and her apparent use of executive power to grind a personal axe when she allegedly fired Public Safety Commissioner, Walter Monegan, because he wouldn't fire Palin's former brother in law, State Trooper Mike Wooten. He happened to be involved in a custody battle with Palin's sister at the time. That's some family values for you. Oh, then there's the $50 billion Bridge To Nowhere, a pork-barrel project Palin ran for governor on and which she later stopped as it became symbolic of corruption and cronyism. That's real maverick governing, Ms. Palin.

She also believes that we're on a mission from God in Iraq. Not in the Blues Brothers way, but, literally, that it's god's will that we smite the infidels. You want a look into a scary church, forget Jeremiah Wright and check out The Assembly of God in Wasilla, a church Palin has somewhat distanced herself from, but still attends.

For good measure, God also wants a $30 billion federally funded nation-gas pipeline in Alaska. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

But in the media orgy following Palin's speech last night, we're being told to behold the "new face of the Republican Party." She's their Obama, everyone crows, only she has real executive experience. So far, any attempts to vet her as a candidate and a potential leader are thrown back as being a bullying double standard. She has five kids damnit! Hey, that's a miracle, I mean there are only 7 billion people on this planet. How'd she manage that? But I guess wanton procreation runs in the family.

There's something unseemly in the way we're supposed to bow down because the Republicans have taken by decree a place in history that Hillary Clinton busted her ass for. Palin didn't rise to the top, she was plucked by puppet masters. Clinton earned everyone of her 18 million primary votes. She worked and suffered for them. Palin is merely a spokesmodel, a very cleverly chosen one, who is here to dazzle you with her teeth and fool you with the lie that she feels your pain. She's good enough to read a canned, mean-spirited speech that any actress could have read, but she can't even run a small town properly, a job which by some accounts she treated as part-time work.

Of course, if the Obama camp had not succumbed to some combination of hubris and the same irrational Fear of Clinton that has kept Democrats out of the White House for two Bush terms, and possibly a third by proxy, and had simply put Clinton on the ticket, a spot which she, despite what you might think of her, at least went out and earned, we wouldn't be having this conversation. We'd already be talking about plans for the first 100 days of the Obama-Clinton White House.

As it is, we're in a fight we never should be in, fighting it on the same battlefield --the swamps of the culture wars -- upon which we never win.

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Who is stunt casting ? Obama is the biggest joke giong a fraud. I quess will see who standing after the debates. The democrates couldnt do any better than this clown as there represenative.. Palin could out debate Obama, hands down.

Who is stunt casting ? Obama is the biggest joke giong a fraud. I quess will see who standing after the debates. The democrates couldnt do any better than this clown as there represenative.. Palin could out debate Obama, hands down.

Part of the article says:
"It's a culture that believes humans were riding dinosaurs a la Fred Flinstone. I'm not joking. There's actually a Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky -- a $27 million, 60,000 square-foot theme park in which dinosaurs and humans are displayed frolicking as if in the Garden of Eden"

Q. Dinosaurs and people living together? Who would believe such a thing?
A. People who believe what God told us in the Bible.

One example is what is written in:

Job 40: 15-24

15 "Look at the behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength he has in his loins,
what power in the muscles of his belly!

17 His tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

18 His bones are tubes of bronze,
his limbs like rods of iron.

19 He ranks first among the works of God,
yet his Maker can approach him with his sword.

20 The hills bring him their produce,
and all the wild animals play nearby.

21 Under the lotus plants he lies,
hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow;
the poplars by the stream surround him.

23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed;
he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes,
or trap him and pierce his nose?

See: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job40:15-24;&version=31;

I have great faith the American people can see through the facade that is Barack America.

Palin is a sophisticated smart and discerning woman! Deal with it!!!

These people are so retarded. Do you think they used Creationist geologists to find all them "fossil" fuels or what?

Send Barack Obama another check and pray that we can do this.

Barack Obama is a Harvard-educated law professor who won election to the U.S. Senate from one of the most populous states in America. He wants to stop the GOP-sponsored military-industrial complex from raping the American budget and constitution, as they have under Bush. Sarah Palin is a lying, hypocritical, bigot who wants to take everyone back to the Stone Age with her ignorance. Oh yeah, and her daughter's baby? That's apparently the second blessed event of her life.


As a Californian I’m very sorry that you have an audience. When you said “I wrote after George Bush got re-elected that California should think about seceding from the union,” I think it would have been more appropriate for you to leave the United States and go live in a communist or socialist republic where you can share your philosophy. Christians do think for themselves, we are a free nation because of those “free” thinking people who gave their lives so you could write you nasty column. You exemplify the voice of the “mean spirited people,” Adolph Hitler comes to mind.

As a Christian you insult my intelligence with your rant about the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky. I’ve never heard of it, but you seem to believe that people who believe in God agree that dinosaurs and humans lived in the same time period. I don’t know 1 person that believes that, we aren’t all fools because we believe in God.

As a woman I’m sick of the Good Ole Boy Club in this country, it’s time for women to stand up and be counted. We love Hilliary, but we didn’t like her lying, cheating husband. The political machine that creates the new Presidential candidates wouldn’t let Hilliary get in the White House, they would rather have a fast talking con artist like her husband, Bill. I guess any man with no record of accomplishment can become a candidate over a smart woman.

McCain-Palin is my choice!!

Thank goodness you are not advising the Obama campaign. Sarah Palin is a serious threat and effete, condescending, long-winded blowhards like you are fanning the flames. The only thing you got right is that Dems can't win the the culture wars while sucking down free brie and red bull/vodkas (or have you switched to vitamin water and a new diet program?) behind velvet ropes at trendy dance bars trying to impress underage club kids by offering to let them drive their leased Bentleys ... they hate you more than they disbelieve creationism (and FYI, they have never believed in creationism ... they just want to see you and your pampered, fruity brethren in striped suits and set to a hard labor they consider comparable to their own miserable existences). And if you don't get that and start treating perky, divisive, dismissive zealots like Ms. Palin with the respect such a powerful adversary deserves, then you haven't learned a frickin thing from Reagan, Bush and all the other cutesy demons who "communicate" with the electorate. You think you're so smart. But they beat you every time!

How dare you suggest Creationists believe in Creationism! Don't you know there are illiterate people trying to read this paper?

It's too bad that the MOST crucial, truly troubling and valid reasons for concern were overlooked because of the WAY THEY WERE SAID. I can understand feeling passionately opinionated, and then making comments about Palin and her religious attitudes -- BUT (having putting my foot in my mouth many times) I also realize it needn't have been raised.

Regardless religion is a personal choice of faith AND attacklng someone because of their personal beliefs is offensive (and a right as great or greater than free speech: -- which is why the government should not impose any specific failth-based rules on its citizens).

I CAN UNDERSTAND the post in response BEING PISSED ABOUT THE CREATIONISM COMMENTS. Who wouldn't hit back when a crucial aspect of your identity is targeted as a joke and misrepresented. I thought what you said in the last two paragraphs was very effective--really sticks it to anyone who makes comments along those lines. But I have to say, I was OFFENDED by the response to his comment (which he admitted was a JOKE) about wishing California would secede b/c they voted for Bush. It clearly had nothing to do with California, only with NOT WANTING BUSH RE-ELECTED (as many others felt). AND IT WAS A JOKE. To say he should move to a socialist or communist republic implies that there a serious limits on how one can express political free speech, an equally fundamental right. (F.Y.I. also socialist countries (the few there are--Canada used to be--I lived there) ARE democratic, MORE so, especially when it comes to voting.)

Getting back to the point, despite some remarks that would have been better left out, Joe points out some very important reasons for distingushing between the reps and dems that people seem to be completely foregetting with all the media distraction -- things that had Bush at a 30% approval rating.

He makes CRUCIAL POINTS about SHOWING GOOD REASONS WHY and how MCCAIN WILL MEAN NO CHANGE.
But People are FALLING for THE BAIT of merely SUPERFICIAL CHANGE B/C--- PALIN --SEEMS-- DIFFERENT.

THe problem is this: just because she was an unlikely choice for McCain DOES NOT mean she is A GOOD ONE. Many people who wouldn't vote for Hilary DIDN'T LIKE HER--which is stupid--BUT MOST THOUGHT HER HIGHLY QUALIFIED.

But Palin, who one may like or not, is by any standard well below the experience typically required of a VP candidate (and there are plenty of women who McCain could have chosen who aren't). ONE can't IGNORE that as Govenor:
1) PALIN created a LARGE STATE DEBT
2) Was for SECESSION; and
3) AGAINST DRILLING FOR OIL

The point that he is making IS that people are forgetting to be skeptical of McCain-Palin - DESPITE the fact that his campaign, like those of MOST POLITICIANS is simply designed to get him elected -- AND IN HIS CASE, HE EVEN HAS THE SAME CAMPAIGN MANAGER AS BUSH, (Karl Rove,) which even by campaign standards ushered in a new low, (i.e."compassionate conservatism") closer to sheer deception.

Now, I want to point out that there is plently of reasons to be skeptical of OBAMA -- BUT THEY ARE THE STANDARD ONES. I mean, SERIOUSLY, THIS IS JUST NOT AS BAD AS BUSH. NO ONE HAS BEEN AS BAD AS BUSH, and even McCain would be a little better-- (having voted with Bush 90%) of the time in 8 yrs)

Still, McCain's positions on Iran and Iraq are frightening, whatever one's opinion about what SHOULD be done.
ADDING to the HUGE U.S. DEBT,
GIVEN THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY,
& his FAILURE to ADDRESS THE ECONOMY, not to mention the human costs, in lives, dollars, and what cannot be measured: the "costs" of trauma, fear, torture, death of a spouse, child, parent, disabling injuries interfering with employment, parenting, loss of family income, failed marriages, damage to mental health and brain function. (The projected costs if all these health-related costs were covered is MUCH higher (~10 times) what was spent the war -- study by one top American economists in the world.

All this stuff about Obama being a fraud, I get, believe me. I feel that too often. BUT I KNOW ITS JUST A REACTION TO HIM AND SPEECHES TRYING TO SOUND LIKE HE IS SO DIFFERENT, BETTER, NOT like OTHER POLITICIANS, and he's REALLY going TO CHANGE THINGS.

Yeah, don't buy it. To run for president, you had to get the nod from the "RIGHT" PEOPLE. He' s can't be that different. Probably likes to think he is deep down.

Pros: I think he is smart, and is good at schmoozing, will get along well with everyone he has to, and can learn quickly. Biden should at least be able to help as far as strategy for getting bills passed.

Cons: Too Nice, not enough practical experience in politics at a governing level -- lacks pragmatism, understanding of the current nature of power dynamics affecting politics at this level. Naive, idea-oriented; will not be able to get anything done.

Bottom line: Better that he not as much of what could be done that have someone who will make things worse. If he picks his appointees wisely, his learning curve should be less of an issue, and when he does get there HE WILL BE VERY COMPETENT, if lacking in toughness. McCain is not very tough either.


But I think Mary Bauer said it BEST. Hey, people can say shit about Obama, McCain, Palin -- BUT LISTEN, even if YOU LIKE MCCAIN-PALIN BETTER,

JUST REMEMBER--
!) THIS ISN"T A POPULARITY CONTEST?

2) DO YOU REALLY WANT 4 MORE YRS OF BUSH-TYPE LAW?

3) DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN "TRUST" A POLITICIAN B/C YOU LIKE THEM MORE?

It's too bad that the MOST crucial, truly troubling and valid reasons for concern were overlooked because of the WAY THEY WERE SAID. I can understand feeling passionately opinionated, and then making comments about Palin and her religious attitudes -- BUT (having putting my foot in my mouth many times) I also realize it needn't have been raised.

Regardless religion is a personal choice of faith AND attacklng someone because of their personal beliefs is offensive (and a right as great or greater than free speech: -- which is why the government should not impose any specific failth-based rules on its citizens).

I CAN UNDERSTAND the post in response BEING PISSED ABOUT THE CREATIONISM COMMENTS. Who wouldn't hit back when a crucial aspect of your identity is targeted as a joke and misrepresented. I thought what you said in the last two paragraphs was very effective--really sticks it to anyone who makes comments along those lines. But I have to say, I was OFFENDED by the response to his comment (which he admitted was a JOKE) about wishing California would secede b/c they voted for Bush. It clearly had nothing to do with California, only with NOT WANTING BUSH RE-ELECTED (as many others felt). AND IT WAS A JOKE. To say he should move to a socialist or communist republic implies that there a serious limits on how one can express political free speech, an equally fundamental right. (F.Y.I. also socialist countries (the few there are--Canada used to be--I lived there) ARE democratic, MORE so, especially when it comes to voting.)

Getting back to the point, despite some remarks that would have been better left out, Joe points out some very important reasons for distingushing between the reps and dems that people seem to be completely foregetting with all the media distraction -- things that had Bush at a 30% approval rating.

He makes CRUCIAL POINTS about SHOWING GOOD REASONS WHY and how MCCAIN WILL MEAN NO CHANGE.
But People are FALLING for THE BAIT of merely SUPERFICIAL CHANGE B/C--- PALIN --SEEMS-- DIFFERENT.

THe problem is this: just because she was an unlikely choice for McCain DOES NOT mean she is A GOOD ONE. Many people who wouldn't vote for Hilary DIDN'T LIKE HER--which is stupid--BUT MOST THOUGHT HER HIGHLY QUALIFIED.

But Palin, who one may like or not, is by any standard well below the experience typically required of a VP candidate (and there are plenty of women who McCain could have chosen who aren't). ONE can't IGNORE that as Govenor:
1) PALIN created a LARGE STATE DEBT
2) Was for SECESSION; and
3) AGAINST DRILLING FOR OIL

The point that he is making IS that people are forgetting to be skeptical of McCain-Palin - DESPITE the fact that his campaign, like those of MOST POLITICIANS is simply designed to get him elected -- AND IN HIS CASE, HE EVEN HAS THE SAME CAMPAIGN MANAGER AS BUSH, (Karl Rove,) which even by campaign standards ushered in a new low, (i.e."compassionate conservatism") closer to sheer deception.

Now, I want to point out that there is plently of reasons to be skeptical of OBAMA -- BUT THEY ARE THE STANDARD ONES. I mean, SERIOUSLY, THIS IS JUST NOT AS BAD AS BUSH. NO ONE HAS BEEN AS BAD AS BUSH, and even McCain would be a little better-- (having voted with Bush 90%) of the time in 8 yrs)

Still, McCain's positions on Iran and Iraq are frightening, whatever one's opinion about what SHOULD be done.
ADDING to the HUGE U.S. DEBT,
GIVEN THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY,
& his FAILURE to ADDRESS THE ECONOMY, not to mention the human costs, in lives, dollars, and what cannot be measured: the "costs" of trauma, fear, torture, death of a spouse, child, parent, disabling injuries interfering with employment, parenting, loss of family income, failed marriages, damage to mental health and brain function. (The projected costs if all these health-related costs were covered is MUCH higher (~10 times) what was spent the war -- study by one top American economists in the world.

All this stuff about Obama being a fraud, I get, believe me. I feel that too often. BUT I KNOW ITS JUST A REACTION TO HIM AND SPEECHES TRYING TO SOUND LIKE HE IS SO DIFFERENT, BETTER, NOT like OTHER POLITICIANS, and he's REALLY going TO CHANGE THINGS.

Yeah, don't buy it. To run for president, you had to get the nod from the "RIGHT" PEOPLE. He' s can't be that different. Probably likes to think he is deep down.

Pros: I think he is smart, and is good at schmoozing, will get along well with everyone he has to, and can learn quickly. Biden should at least be able to help as far as strategy for getting bills passed.

Cons: Too Nice, not enough practical experience in politics at a governing level -- lacks pragmatism, understanding of the current nature of power dynamics affecting politics at this level. Naive, idea-oriented; will not be able to get anything done.

Bottom line: Better that he not as much of what could be done that have someone who will make things worse. If he picks his appointees wisely, his learning curve should be less of an issue, and when he does get there HE WILL BE VERY COMPETENT, if lacking in toughness. McCain is not very tough either.


But I think Mary Bauer said it BEST. Hey, people can say shit about Obama, McCain, Palin -- BUT LISTEN, even if YOU LIKE MCCAIN-PALIN BETTER,

JUST REMEMBER--
!) THIS ISN"T A POPULARITY CONTEST?

2) DO YOU REALLY WANT 4 MORE YRS OF BUSH-TYPE LAW?

3) DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN "TRUST" A POLITICIAN B/C YOU LIKE THEM MORE?

The Republicans wrecked the United States durring the last eight years. Mccain and Palin will not be much different from Bush judging from their policy views. Barack Obama will help turn this country around.

 

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