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Queer Town: Power Lesbian Criticizes "No on 8" Campaign

By Patrick Range McDonald, Sunday, Nov. 30 2008 @ 4:34PM
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On Saturday, in the Huffington Post, power lesbian and longtime gay rights activist Torie Osborn did something few people in her A-list position have been willing to do: Publicly criticize the "No on 8" campaign.  

While Osborn doesn't name names, she still takes the "No on 8" campaign to task for not building effective coalitions with blacks and Latinos...which is something L.A. Weekly first revealed a few weeks ago.

If you read Osborn's piece, it makes you wonder why Rose Greene, a member of the board of directors at the Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center, continues to demand that critics of the campaign cease and desist, and instead focus on the future. Greene, who works with L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center CEO and "No on 8" executive committee member Lorri Jean, is now essentially telling Osborn that she, too, should shut up.

Greene popped up on the "No on 8" apologists circuit last week, when she wrote a comment to a post I wrote titled "No on 8 Leadership on the Hot Seat." At the time, Greene failed to disclose her working relationship with the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center, so I wrote my own comment to fill in the public.

Greene wrote another comment on the blog of Michael Petrelis, who's been sharply critical of Lorri Jean and other "No on 8" leaders. This time, Greene wrote about her affiliation with the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center and actually described any criticisms of the "No on 8" campaign as "horizontal violence."

This intrigue is not some petty thing. It shows, at the very least, that certain A-list gays and lesbians appear to be in deep denial about the role of the "No on 8" campaign in its own defeat, which is also a defeat for every gay and lesbian in California and across the United States. (That denial may explain why younger folks seem determined to take a seat at the power table of a new gay rights movement, which L.A. Weekly examines in a new article titled "Young Gays Take Reins from Elders on Prop. 8.")

Greene's active role in diverting attention away from getting to the bottom of the Proposition 8 loss, which could prevent future debacles, may also show how "No on 8" leaders and their friends in the gay establishment want to shield themselves from criticism, and the political fall out that may come with it.

Once again, it makes a thinking person wonder: Are "No on 8" leaders undertaking some kind of cover up?  If so, why?  In the coming weeks, those questions may or may not be answered--it depends if more people like Osborn, young gays and lesbians, and others continue to call for accountability on the part of the "No on 8" campaign.


Contact Patrick Range McDonald at pmcdonald@laweekly.com.



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kathy says:

I read Torie's piece and it makes a lot of sense.

We need to look at where we made mistakes in order to win next time.

Posted On: Sunday, Nov. 30 2008 @ 7:29PM
K says:

We did not "lose" on Prop. 8; inept amateurs threw it away to the hatemongers. Anyone involved in the "No on 8" campaign who cannot recognize their terrible failure is deluded and should step away from future efforts (or be driven away, if they won't go voluntarily).

The debacle in California harmed everyone, nationwide, and lost us years of progress. That's a fact.

Right now, we should be gearing up to gather signatures to put a proposition to repeal Prop 8 on the 2010 ballot. Unfortunately, I don't think there's anyone competent to lead that effort and, assuming sufficient signatures can be gotten, lead another fight for voters.

I live on the East Coast, but sent hundreds of dollars I really couldn't afford to the "No on 8" campaign. I won't contribute a penny more until I see some competence to conduct future efforts.


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I thought you might like to see the full version of Torie's thoughts on Prop 8. She published the full version today on Bilerico Project - http://www.bilerico.com/2008/12/the_new_politics_of_yes_yes_we_can_overt.php

It goes into a LOT more depth.

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