Formerly Vegan Blogger Threatened by Angry Vegans

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What happens when a prominent vegan defects and becomes an ardent omnivore? Death threats, of course.

After years of living as a self-professed "vegangelical," Natasha, a well-known vegan blogger at Voracious, ended up with debilitating health problems. Her doctor urged her to incorporate animal products back into her diet. For six months, she refused. Her symptoms worsened. Finally, she began eating meat. That was her first sin. Then she did something even worse. She wrote about it.

"Eating meat everyday turned out to be incredibly easy because it was exactly what I had needed all along."

Natasha's very long, painfully honest post covers a lot of soul-searching: her personal struggle to live an ethical and sustainable life, the supposedly progressive politics of veganism actually masking a very regressive ideology that essentially says "we can shop our way out of the problem," the way veganism keeps people (read: women) obsessed with perfecting their bodies, the subtle (or not so subtle) racism that dismisses the eating habits of indigenous cultures and says, "Your way of eating for thousands of years is wrong." Mostly, though, it's a personal account of Natasha's reckoning with meat.

"I wanted veganism to work. I wanted desperately for it to be right, for my ethics to outweigh my physiology."

Natasha received a flood of support but also a ton of "you must be doing veganism wrong" feedback and suggestions to eat more tofu/nuts/spirulina/whatever. She even received threats, which, if nothing else, belie the stereotype of vegans as sickly, peace-loving hippies. (On a side note, vegan bloggers seem to hit a level of hypocrisy matched only by right-wing evangelical preachers. Natasha recounts exchanges with several other well-known "vegan" bloggers who admitted they "weren't really vegan 'behind the scenes'. They ate eggs, or the occasional fish, or piece of meat, all to keep themselves healthy, but were too scared to admit to it on their blogs.")

I like her post because it highlights much of what repels me about veganism. The self-righteousness. The impracticality. The unsustainability. The denial of corporeal desire. The way veganism is automatically conflated with health. The way its counterpart, meat-eating, is automatically conflated with a diet heavy in sugar, carbs and processed foods (because, let's face it, that's what it usually means in America). The way veganism has become a knee-jerk lifestyle choice for a certain set of privileged hipsters. 

Rather than a moment of schadenfreude, however, Natasha's story and the response to it highlights something more fundamental -- and more disturbing: How the discussion over food has become so polarized. How no choice about what we put into our mouths can go uncriticized. And how, in the long run, that will prevent us from creating any meaningful, widespread improvement in all of our eating habits.

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me14.16
me14.16

I don't think getting angry at a couple of people who try to claim that veganism is some sort of problem is worth the effort. People have always criticised vegans and veganism for whatever reasons they can think of and they're unlikely to stop.

I have been vegan ALL 20 years of my life, I have never had anything worse than flu to complain about, I am my ideal BMI and I eat a lot of junk food as well as a lot of good stuff. Being a meat eater in itself will not harm you, being vegan in itself will not harm you. Being moderate about anything that is 'bad' is unlikely to cause problems. I have never said that tribes that live sustainably within their surroundings are wrong to eat animals because the animals can have a crack at eating them back. Its a fair system. Sitting in your brick and mortar house eating an animal that never really got a chance to live at all, that somebody else killed for you (probably inhumanely if the insider information is to be believed) and that a polluting transport system put on your table is inexcusable. We do not NEED to eat meat anymore than we NEED to drink alcohol. There may be some benefits but there are definitely other ways to go about finding them. This idiot doesn't need death threats, she needs an eye roll and a 'there goes another moron' but there are billions of other people  who currently eat meat who can be reasoned with and are not idiots, and a better result would come for the animals involved if we used our energy to talk to them, than if we waste our time shouting at people who are probably going to kick themselves when they realise they've been duped by yet another undereducated doctor who pulled the easiest answer out of the bag. I've never even had a vaccine, doctors ask me to have them almost every time I go, but my life is not worth any more than any other animals, and if this woman was ever a true vegan she would have died before she caved in to some pathetic excuse for a medical reason. 

NotFat
NotFat

The first thing I thought upon reading this was: Elina Shatkin must be fat. Sure enough, I did a google image search and there she is: a huge fat pig. So I cut her some slack after that because it's clear her hatred and the other disturbing psychological conditions she demonstrates in her piece come from suffering and self-image problems.

There's too much hate and stupidity in her piece to bother rebutting, so I'll just pick one: that the problem with veganism is that it is "racist" because it says to people, "The way you have been doing this for thousands of years is wrong." This is the number one argument offered by those who oppose gay marriage. "Marriage has always been this way!" "I'm for TRADITIONAL marriage!" So congratulations for throwing your lot in with Santorum.

Medicine and science, when they make a discovery, also change the way things have been done for a thousand years. And there weren't drive-thrus a thousand years ago either, but from the photos that clearly doesn't stop Elina from partaking.

This is just a vicious hit job because Elina got sick of writing about how she hates men. I'm all for LA Weekly printing a diverse array of views, but this is beneath them.

Yahvinah
Yahvinah

1. The vegan diet is sustainable, been vegan for 10 years with NO nutritional deficiencies, and yes I do get my bloods done by doctors2. I can care less why she chose not to be vegan anymore, it doesn't involve me3. I think the backlash was more about her deciding to legitimize her turn away from veganism by becoming a vegan basher, giving people like this author some ammo to start up another vegan bashing dialogue4. Death threats??? Seems ridiculous, she is just a person who had some kind of problem, I doubt she explored her options fully, as I am going into medicine and there is no real nutritional component, she would have been better off finding her illness/deficiency and speaking to a qualified dietician5. There are some vegans who are a pain in the bum, but there are a lot of people on earth who are pains in the bum too, so I am not really bothered.

All in all, this is not surprising, lots of people make bad dietary choices, and she obviously didnt have her bases covered, and backslid, and decided to rationalise it publicly and get spat on by her readers. Some of the things the author said were untrue. Not most vegans eat meat or eggs on the side, this is hearsay, and if someone said it on her blog, it was most probably a troll. Also the vegan diet is sustainable, and when done well with a varied diet can give you all you need nutritionally. No, vegans are not all hippies, hippies make me sick, but this writer makes me sick too, so its an equal opportunity thing.

Catherine
Catherine

I was vegan for ten years in the middle of being vegetarian for the past 24 years and have no intention of stopping. In fact, every day my belief seems to get stronger, enforced by the cruelty and injustice I see happening in the world.

I think what has been said in this article is very negative and ill-thought. It's like you have a prejudice towards vegetarians and vegans. I do it for the animals, not for what other people think. I do not agree with people giving themselves the title of vegetarian or vegan and then eating 'only fish' or 'just a little meat'. To me, that is fad-ish.

I've never read Tasha's blog, but I only wish she went vegetarian instead jumping in the whole hog (excuse the pun) to being an omnivore.

Amanda Bailey
Amanda Bailey

This article, to me is much more self-righteous than any vegans I've ever met. Who are you to talk about people that are trying to do something good for the world that YOU live in too as if they're an annoyance? No one wants anyone to tell them how to live, but I can sympathize with vegans that do that because some of them are spending their life trying to fix what you're so easily messing up by eating meat. It's not the eating of the meat that's unnatural, it's the way we've industrialized it. You don't even know what you're eating anymore. 40% of the oxygen we breathe comes from the rain forest, right? That's oxygen that vegans breathe, and also oxygen that you breathe. A lot of our medicine that we use for cancer comes from the rain forest and can't be found anywhere else. We need the rain forest. But, while it used to cover 14% of the earth, it now covers 6% due to deforestation. What does this have to do with meat? Well, MOST rain forest deforestation happens to create cattle grazing land. This we can never undo, we can only prevent it from getting worse.

So basically, we're sucking the oxygen out of the air, while polluting it, and all for meat. But vegans aren't contributing to this (at least a LOT less), you are. This is why they probably come off as angry toward meat-eaters.

If you want to go out and strangle an animal with your bare hands and bring it home and eat it, by all means, go ahead. You won't be polluting MY air, cutting down the rainforest, or giving your money to a corrupt industry that's hurting us all. But sir, I doubt you'd actually do that. You'd probably chicken out, it's hard to murder a living being. And it should be. But if it's not hard for you, do it. Just don't go ridiculing people that are helping you, your planet, and the rest of us.

Also, it looks a little self-righteous of you to think yourself entitled to eat something that is completely inefficient, and probably a leading reason to why there are so many starving people on this planet, just because you think it tastes good.

Natasha may have had some health-difficulties, but veganism can be done healthily. I know many very healthy people (some professional athletes) that have been vegan 10, 20, even 30 years. Most people just don't want to put in the time and energy and money to make sure they're getting enough iron, protein, nutrients. Although meat has these things, a lot of veggies, lentils, wheats, have them too, and without all of the negative side affects.

I resent you for putting vegans in such negative light, when they're working so hard to do what they know is right. I hope that others aren't swayed by this article, although I doubt very many intelligent people will be.

-Amandawww.vegancents.com

Naturegirlsburrow
Naturegirlsburrow

Everyone's food choice is their own choice. What in the world should anyone care so badly about what someone else eats? I myself bounce between vegetarianism, adding some fish to my diet, and sometimes even some chicken. I'm now going to be trying a vegan diet, but if it doesn't fit well within my lifestyle or what I feel is most healthy for myself and my family, I sure the heck am not going to stick with it. It's ridiculous that one way of eating should be considered fashionable or regarded as better then others. Making healthy choices depends on each person. What works for some will not work for others. There are so many people, so many cultures, and so many different ways of doing things. I am currently doing this to help me lower my cholesterol due to autoimmune illnesses that cause it to rise. My doctors all agreed that this would be the best approach right now. But, like I said, if it doesn't work, it doesn't. No one should be made to feel that they have to hide their food choices from other people. It's just flippin' silly and shallow.

Lewis79
Lewis79

First of all, Tasha (formerly Voracious Vegan) ALLEGEDLY received threats after posting about her transition to a carnivorous diet. Why is that word "allegedly" missing here? If I say I've received death threats do you automatically assume I have? Have you read the threats?

Second, this entire story is about poor nutrition, not veganism. This woman happened to be experimenting with veganism. What did she eat? Her Twitter account would have us believe she subsisted on a diet largely composed of "green smoothies", cookies, enchiladas and "ice cream", presumably soy. She also works out fervently. Was there protein powder involved? Extra kale? Agreed that a nutritionist could have helped her more than a medical doctor.

And now Tasha appears to be enjoying a diet of bacon, cheese and eggs, and indicates, via Tweet, that she has not felt so good in a very long time. Interesting.

Let's not rush to slam veganism for her dietary foibles, nor praise bacon as a "health food".

You really think veganism is about self-righteousness, impracticality, and unsustainability? That vegans deny their corporeal desire? Au contraire, Elina, there exist many long-term vegans with very healthy diets, who happily moan with pleasure while consuming tofu and brown rice, and if you think "veganism is automatically conflated with health", perhaps you are in denial.

Veganism arose from a desire to end the exploitation of animals for human consumption and entertainment. A "vegan diet" for "health reasons" while valid, is not necessarily a given. Many vegans do not consume any animal products because they do not want to be a part of the exploitation process, with the health benefits only secondary, and many more do not eat any healthier than your average omnivore.

This is a common misconception, and what needs to happen here, after this "Vegan No More" story, is that we all need to learn about each other, and tolerate each other, and stop with the assumptions perpetuated by people like yourself with a voice in the media.

Louche
Louche

Children, children! Calm down before you write something. Can we have a respectful discussion?

Heather, best comments on the page. However, "I've felt far more judged by omnis in the past 2yrs of veganism than I ever felt by vegans in 26yrs as an omnivore" - same here, but I also barely knew any vegans when I was omni... and the difference for Tasha is that she's a famous ex-vegan blogger. So I think we could say that popular ex-vegans or meat-promoters may receive more judgment from vegans than a vegan would ever receive from omnis.

John Driver
John Driver

"On a side note, vegan bloggers seem to hit a level of hypocrisy matched only by right-wing evangelical preachers. Natasha recounts exchanges with several other well-known "vegan" bloggers who admitted they "weren't really vegan 'behind the scenes'. They ate eggs, or the occasional fish, or piece of meat, all to keep themselves healthy, but were too scared to admit to it on their blogs."

If Miss Shatkin is hoping to be considered a quality journalist at any stage of her life she may need to learn the definition of a Straw Man Argument.

William
William

I would suggest to everyone, that rather than trusting these anecdotal accounts of people getting sick from certain diets, you do your own research. Read some literature about food and nutrition. Second, be careful about confusing physicians with nutritionists.

Liz
Liz

Thank you Lu Valenotte for the link and for stating the obvious. Those of us with the priviledge of living in the bountiful western world (or the part of the western world that happens to be bountiful) are graced with the ability to make these choices and engage in this discourse, no matter what side of the debate we argue in favor of. To have easy access to plentiful sources of produce & choices about where to buy our meats and what kind and how it's farmed is something that sets is apart from our far less fortunate cousins in rural Guatemala, the inner cities of DF, working class India and so on. Count your blessings, live and let live and most of all be thankful.

Bellatrix LeStrange
Bellatrix LeStrange

Do you have an editor? Who is letting you post your writing with such horrible grammar and sentence structure?

I mean, if you are going to write a totally uneducated, close-minded, sensationalist piece for a major news source, you should probably convey yourself in a semi-intelligent manner.

Nick
Nick

There are stupid vegans and stupid non-vegans. This article puts you into the stupid non-vegan group.

Tony
Tony

Haha. Wow. This is an incredibly dick-ish article. At least you didn't try to disguise that you already had a decided position before reading a blog post by someone that supports your viewpoint.

I think the Natasha's post was over-dramatic and a bit annoying. I couldn't make it through her whole post. She's not someone you would have liked or quoted previously to this new turn of events. She would have been one of the annoying self-righteous hipster vegans that you hate so much. (The only people using the term "hipster" are hipsters. You write on the blog for LA Weekly - that's very hipster.)

I don't think she should be threatened, but I have the feeling, based on her post that it might be a little overblown.

Also, do you hate everyone that makes a moral decision in their life or just the ones you disagree with?

And there are people (both vegan and meat eaters) creating "meaningful, widespread improvement in all of our eating habits." You just have to spend some time researching and reading about them.

brittany
brittany

i'm sorry, this "article" is the most condescending, self-righteous load of crap i've ever read. i'm not denying some vegans are super preachy and annoying, but meat eaters are just as bad when it comes to talking about food. i'm vegan and on a daily basis you know what i hear? "MMMM MEAT IS SOOOO GOOD, I LOVE FOIE GRAS, THE MORE THE ANIMALS SUFFER THE BETTER THE MEAT IS." every day someone tries to bait me into a discussion about animal rights because they WANT TO ARGUE with my decisions. meanwhile, the people who don't get in my face about it forget i'm vegan all together because i don't talk about it.

this blurb is a waste of server space. seriously.

Kayla
Kayla

I was a vegetarian all though high school, graduated just this year. I went back to meat a couple months ago because I'm starting culinary school this year, and having experience with meat is something that would benefit me if i stayed with meat in the future.

But one thing that's always been a dream of mine was someday opening a vegetarian restaurant. Reading this made laugh because I posted something on the peta website talking about this, and just got a bunch of responses saying what a terrible person I am for going back to meat and how I should just go and kill myself.

Lu Valenotte
Lu Valenotte

You can read the full story that Natasha wrote here:

http://voraciouseats.com/2010/...

She states in the intro that she had been receiving threats.

Everyone is wired differently. This is why some people are genetically more likely to become an alcoholic, develop certain cancers, gray prematurely, be overweight, be underweight, etc.

Remember that choosing to eat in any "style" is a privilege; one that everyone should be thankful for.

Ryann Salik
Ryann Salik

Seriously? Likening how indigenous cultures consume animals to how Western cultures process animals and then calling vegans racist for not wanting to be a part of that hot, anti-biotic riddled mess is just so ridiculous. If I wasn't such a "privileged hipster", too cool to enact any real change, I'd probably be ticked off at this article. Wait a minute! I'm actually a mother of three who hopes to instill healthy eating habits in my children. So, while I agree Tasha should be allowed to blog whatever she wants (for reals: http://www.mywholedeal.com/min..., this assessment of the fallout just plain sucks.

Heather
Heather

Oy. I basically agree with every word Eric Grey said but I have to add my two cents.

I was omni for 26yrs, been vegan for over 2 now, and I feel the best I've ever felt in my life, which is the only reason I've kept it up. I don't find it impractical, it's not hard to sustain, and I WISH I was a privileged hipster, Jesus. As for 'denying corporeal desire'...I don't even know how to seriously respond to that.

I'm not self-righteous, thanks for assuming, I just made a decision for myself and since it's felt good for me I've stuck with it. I think others should eat however makes them feel best. Obviously, Natasha should never have received threats or attacks, that's absurd. And I've seen those same judgmental militant vegans you are referencing and have no patience for them either, but to lump every person who's adopted a vegan diet together in this insulting (vegan=racist? really?) diatribe about all the reasons veganism 'repels' you does nothing but contribute to this polarization around the discussion of food that you're bemoaning. I swear, it's amazing to me but I've felt far more judged by omnis in the past 2yrs of veganism than I ever felt by vegans in 26yrs as an omnivore. That's pretty sad.

"How no choice we make about what we put into our mouths can go uncriticized."

No. Clearly not.

Sarah
Sarah

I only felt it necessary to comment because one prominent vegan blogger is making a case for the author to be reprimanded for an opinion piece.Hey crazies- this is an editorial article. This is the author's opinion. I think it's pretty bizarre you are encouraging people to rally around the paper so she can lose her job in a bad economy- but you pat yourselves on the back for not eating dairy.

As far as Natasha eating meat again for health reasons- she kindly shared her journey, it's her business.

I've been vegetarian probably longer than most of you have been alive. I practice what I preach. I want to be kind to animals but hey guess what- I want to be kind to people too. Would love it if the modern day calorie consuming machine vegans would learn to be kind to others. Get off your high horse.

rex
rex

"Part 2 � Healing

My first bite of meat after 3.5 years of veganism was both the hardest and easiest thing I�ve ever done. Tears ran down my face as saliva pooled in my mouth. The world receded to a blank nothingness and I just ate, and ate, and ate. I cried in grief and anger, while moaning with pleasure and joy."

1) gross2) you're both terrible writers

Nebris
Nebris

Hmmm, now I want a bacon cheeseburger.

Anne R Kissed
Anne R Kissed

Do we know that she received death threats, or does it make for a good narrative? Her entire story is full of holes and poor la weekly for falling for her distortions, opinions masquerading as fact (a first year college student couldnt get away with that!) and of the comments on her blog, not one was negative? For the blogger formerly known as "vegan" she sure had a LOT of non vegan readers.

lovebazaar
lovebazaar

i'm a former proud meat eater, raised on three meat meals a day, laughing all the while at my vegetarian friends, and boasting constantly how "i could never give up meat".

i read a book that changed my life this year, and learning about the atrocities of factory farming made me never, ever, ever want to consume another animal product. it was the best thing i have ever done, and i have never felt that i am missing out on anything.

i still like the smell of meat. i don't judge or preach to my friends who eat meat. i don't even think that eating meat is INHERENTLY wrong; i just think the way animals are raised for meat is fucking horrific and disgusting and i don't want to eat their shit and suffering and disease and fear.

so please don't put your "racist", fake-progressive, eating disordered tag on all vegans. some of us just don't want to eat literal shit.

p.s. i was a WAY bigger asshole when i ate meat. :)

Wolter
Wolter

Vegans are to meat what Christians are to sex. The best way to control people is through shame, and attaching shame to a natural part of being human is hugely powerful.

Amanda Bailey
Amanda Bailey

Honestly, I don't think this is a viable comparison. When we get old enough, most of us are able to work past associating sex with shame because we realize that there's not really any good reason to be ashamed. You're not hurting anyone, you're two consenting adults, and you're (hopefully) being safe and smart about it. So as long as you're being safe and mature, there's really no factual evidence to back up why sex should be a shameful act.

However, meat's a little different. There's no safe meat. Yes, you can get diseases from both sex and eating meat. But having sex doesn't hurt everyone who's not having sex. Eating meat hurts everyone. It's definitely one of the highest contributors to making the world an unlivable place for your children, grandchildren. A few years ago, the UN came out with a study that announced that cattle farms cause more pollution than all the transportation-related pollution in the entire world. But cows are here naturally right? actually, not really. The cattle population is currently 3 times the human population. What's that, about 60 billion cows? Not natural... We breed them to eat them. It's called supply and demand. If you replaced just 6 meals a month with vegetarian ones, you'd be doing the environmental equivalent to trading in your car for a hybrid.

I understand why you might think the vegans are preachy. I always feel that I overdo that with my meat-eating friends, but they tolerate it and really listen to me, and that's why they're great friends! BUT, you have to look at the other side too. It's SOOO hard not to be angry, when people turn a blind eye to the incredibly awful, disgusting things that are happening just because they want a burger that is ultimately probably going to give them heart disease. We're basically suffocating ourselves to death. 80% of deforestation to Rainforests is solely for cattle farms. The rainforest is a nonrenewable resource, and it should belong to everyone, right? We all need it to breathe. It's also the only source for a lot of cancer medicine. Basically we're suffocating ourselves to death with all of these things we're doing, and a huge portion of it is the fault of meat-eaters, and we're all suffering for it. It's upsetting, and it is BY FAR the most shameful thing I could ever think of.

So I think vegans have every right to attach shame to eating meat. Have you ever wondered or taken a small look into WHY they're so serious about their cause?

Gloria
Gloria

Why do you say that what Natasha says is honest but anything a vegan says is automatically self-righteous? What is your criteria here? Scientific studies have shown that vegans are healthier and live longer than those who eat meat, what's your proof that she's telling the complete truth here, especially about the vegan bloggers accusation, of which she of course gives no names?

Congobongo
Congobongo

Gloria, any links? To support your claims about those scientific studies that heralds human herbivourism as healthy?

Meat Eaters Suck Too
Meat Eaters Suck Too

I won't whine about animal product consumers as long as they don't talk their biased, jealous. low-info bullcrap about vegans. Veganism was one of the best things that happened to me. There is no evidence that not eating animal junk is bad for you.I don't like self-righteous, lazy, uninformed, fat, sedentary meat eaters telling me I am wierd. Eat crap (which is what animal product people do, unfortunately).

eve
eve

this article is kinda self-righteous, and judgmental. The denial of corporeal desire?? what does that even mean? i've been vegan for 7 years and i've never had any health problems when i get checkups, and my blood levels are always good for donating blood. sure, veganism doesn't work for everybody, but claiming unsustainability is unfounded. buddhists have done it for centuries in asia. veganism is NOT new or expensive.

so somebody tried veganism and it didn't work for them. who cares, maybe they had one of some conditions that would make it impossible for a person to thrive on the vegan diet (inability to produce taurine is one condition she could have had.) ignorance about vegan nutrition could have been a factor. or maybe she didn't care about veganism 100%. again, who cares.

the fact is, veganism works for many. but it cannot work for everybody. not everybody has the health or will power to transition. i'd have to argue calling my diet a "privileged hipsters" is slightly offensive. i'm poor and not one of the 'cool kids'. but the vegan diet has worked great for my family. we save money, and eat more than 5 a day. why you gotta bash that?

Eric Grey
Eric Grey

I've been vegan for 11 years and my daughter has been vegan her entire life. We're both healthy, happy, and in no danger of personality disorders (as far as I can tell).

We are also respectful, kind, open-minded people. I get really sad when people use their choices as a reason to be angry, judgmental, crass or just mean. I see it from omnivores, from "carnivores," from vegans, from vegetarians, from people rich and poor, from every racial, religious and ethnic background.

I don't like it when vegans make statements that indicate they are derisive of others (if you were holier/more environmental/smarter/hipper you would be vegan).

What is sometimes very frustrating as a happy, healthy, free-thinking vegan is how people use stories like Natasha's to subtly suggest that veganism is just as evil as they had always thought, and that all vegans will end up omnivores one day. My grandfather has been vegan for over fifty years, and is in good health. I know many, many vegans in their fifties and sixties that are going just as strong as they were in their twenties when they chose to become vegan.

I just can't quite get my head around why everyone is so freaked out about this issue. Just relax.

Eric

Baby
Baby

Maybe if Hitler had eaten meat, he wouldn't have been so crazy. Or maybe he should have gone full vegan, not just half-assed vegetarian.All the vegans I have known, though, were certifiable borderline personality disorder types. So maybe Hitler should not have gone full-vegan; he was already bad enough.

dks64
dks64

Hitler was a meat eater. Every serial killer has eaten meat too...

@TheSitRep
@TheSitRep

I am a very strict Vegan (indirectly)I only eat vegetarians animals except for poultry and fish.

All-Vegan
All-Vegan

Seriously? death threats? I read her blog post and nothing was said about death threats. It really is sad that you evangelical meat promoters think you need to misrepresent veganism and those who follow the diet as crazies and now terrorists. All to try and justify a diet which kills hundreds of thousands of people a year in this country. As well as the millions who suffer from chronic diseases caused by excessive meat consumption.

I will be the first to admit that strict veganism is not for everyone. In fact most vegans see Veganism as a diet, which it is. People sometimes eat something which is not part of their diet. It is not a big deal you just get back on the diet. Your projection of Veganism as if it is some kind of cult is insulting. Nutrition science shows that a vegan diet can be healthy. Except of course for Natasha, who somehow developed vitamin deficencies while only eating foods packed with vitamins. and B vitamin deficencies while taking supplements. I think that if the truth was known we would find that there is more going on with her than her diet.

Personally I find her blog post curious. Many of the things she claims do not make sense to me as a 30 year vegan in perfect health. Such as her developing a full blown B12 deficency after only 3 years as a Vegan, after having eaten meat all her life. Serious deficencies almost never show up in vegans even if they do not suppliment and when they do it is usually after 8 - 10 years. The body uses a very small amount of B12 and most of what is used is recycled to be used again. The body also stores many years worth so even if no B12 eaten There is more than enough B12 for the bodies needs.

The most common causes of B12 deficency are: Something is competing for your B12 (like parasites); Something is destroying your B12 (like cyanide in cigarettes); Something is preventing the proper absorption of B12 (like inadequate production of intrinsic factor). I believe something is medically wrong with Natasha and her Veganism caused symptoms not the problem.

I have read the comments on her blog and I know that many people reached out to help Some were so confused by the inconsistancies in her blog post that they suspected the whole blog was a setup. A few crazies may have sent angry emails which I supose is normal Just like the crazies on the Carnie side who equate the vegan diet with radicalism

Jamie
Jamie

Most of the smugness and self-righteousness I see comes from failed vegans and meat-eaters who enjoy stereotyping people to make themselves feel better. That includes the writer of this article.

A balanced vegan diet is the healthiest around - check out The China Study if you want proof. It's very easy to eat poorly on a veg diet and suffer health problems - it takes some investigation and planning to do it right.

It's also asinine to imply racism in advocating a vegan diet. I have the luxury of being a vegan; I would never condemn those not in a position to be one - and there are many in that category, primarily because factory farming deprives third world countries and impoverished people of healthy food choices.

The question I would ask is if Natasha went back to eating factory farmed meat - which I do think is a sleazy cop-out - or whether she chose to buy non-GMO, hormone-free, pasture-raised and finished animals that were at least allowed to live a natural life. If she did so, she was still making an ethical decision based on her needs and one that was least harmful to animals and did not savage the environment.

It's diappointing when a fellow vegan throws in the towel, but there are complete capitualations and considered decisions. Certainly no one has the right to threaten or insult her for choosing her own path, so long as she didn't use her personal experience to paint herself as an authority on the fictional inadequecy of the vegan diet.

Amanda Bailey
Amanda Bailey

Wow, you said this so much better than I did. I honestly was very disappointed to read this article. The author didn't even bother to write what Natasha's health issues were. Was she lacking protein? Was it iron? There's nothing that I know of that you can get from meat but not other things. I feel like a doctor might suggest a person go back to meat because they didn't believe that person would put in the effort to arrange to eat those other things...

-Amandawww.vegancents.com

Congobongo
Congobongo

From where do you get that a "balanced" vegan diet is the healthiest around, out of your arse?! There's no biochemical evidence to support your claim, quite the contrary, stuffing your body with anti-nutrients isn't going to make you strong, nor smart.

Amanda Bailey
Amanda Bailey

What are anti-nutrients? Vegetables??? LOL The only things I know of that are "anti-nutritional" are processed foods and animal products....

Former Veggie
Former Veggie

First, Krys -- what don't you understand about the blogger's decision to leave veganism? It's quite straightforward: She was becoming increasingly ill and she was told by her doctor to begin introducing animal products to her diet. It may seem hard to believe, but in fact, this is something many non-meat eaters must do. What is more important? Your lifestyle or whether or not you will live another year?

I was a devout vegetarian all throughout high school and most of college. (I was not vegan because, in order to survive the college cafeteria, I got all my protein from yogurt, cheese and eggs.) As the years progressed, I became increasingly ill, my hair and nails were sickly looking and I spent most of my sophomore year in and out of the hospital.

My doctor told me that I should consider re-introducing lean proteins such as chicken and fish into my diet. Reluctantly, I did. My health problems vanished -- much like the blogger in this story.

I've faced my fair share of angry threats from vegans since switching back as well. I know many sweet and accepting vegans -- but MAN some of you are pissy! One time, a vegan friend of a vegan friend screamed at me for eating chicken, saying I was participating in an act worse than the Holocaust. REALLY?

And Donna -- you can eat meat while not harming the environment. I always make sure to buy sustainably farmed, free-range organic chicken (I still do not eat red meat). Don't group all meat-eaters into "Environment Hater" categories, please!

Anonymous
Anonymous

I love how the commenters use a sort of veiled language to judge the blogger still...hey, I wouldn't threaten you even though what you are doing is against my morals and values...oh please...just shut up. Unhealthy for the planet? I bet you are doing something unhealthy as well...come to think of it, being morally judgemental is not so good for my part of the planet, so stop it.

TT
TT

Here's the thing: Of course death threats and that sort of response is completely inappropriate and unnecessary. However, if you're a vegan blogger that espouses how moral and ethical your vegan lifestyle is for years...until you decide that it's not healthy for you - which none of us can decide because we're not her - and THEN, instead of just saying "Hey, I realized it wasn't right for my body and health, so I stopped. But the rest of you vegans, I still support your choice, be it health, animal rights/welfare or environmental (or combination)" you proceed to quote unfounded "facts" that conveniently match your new meat-eating ways AND contradict yourself by eating factory farmed meat (when you say in your blog post that local/sustainable is the way to go) AND tweet about how much you love bacon, etc. then start to take issue.

Just because it's better for your individual health it doesn't negate the environmental destruction, the animal suffering or the potential health benefits. You don't have to negate those things in one fell swoop. You would have more credibility amongst vegans and omnivores alike had you left out the judgement and "new philosophy."

Lastly - I don't buy the "secret prominent vegans aren't really" claim. No one is a "perfect" vegan, but people do their best. Don't throw other people under the bus just because you made an individual decision that suits you.

LT
LT

Krys's comment makes me happy because I came on here to say: Not all vegans are like this. Not all vegans are self-aggrandizing hipsters or judgmental a-holes. Veganism, just like any other -ism or belief, has its loud-mouth proselytizers and near-militant fundamentalists. So it's good to remember not every vegan is like that. Some people just don't want to eat animals or animal products for their own personal, health or ethical reasons.

Donna Ricci
Donna Ricci

Krys couldn't be more correct. Do I like the blogger went back to doing something so unhealthy for the planet? No.

Am I going to write her an angry email or threaten her? Never. I may very well be a hypocritical vegetarian. I do it for my moral issue. That's it. Again, my morals aren't YOUR morals so I can't stand over here and say "Hey! You can't eat animals because it's against my morals!"

I can only say you can't do it in my house. And if you did, I wouldn't threaten you with any more than the front door.

Krys
Krys

I am vegan. Who am I to judge someone else. I may not agree with another person's lifestyle choice, but to threaten. That is terrible. In my opinion, being a vegan is also about kindness. Ideally I would love for the world to be vegan. Until then, I will share my recipes and meals and welcome my omnivore friends to my dinner table anytime.

I have been a longtime reader of Tasha's blog. I don't quite understand her leaving veganism. It is her decision. I understand she is doing it for health reasons, I would have gotten a second opinion and done more research. But once again, to the people reading her blog, it is HER decision. Kindness gets you everywhere. Threatening will push omnivores even further away.

Glamustore
Glamustore

I' ve been a vegetarian for 23 years: I started when I was 13 and now I am almost 36!!! The only thing I can say is that, of course, this person was NOT sure of her choice in the beginning... BECAUSE EATING MEAT IS REALLY IMPOSSIBLE IF IT MAKE YOU SICK... I could never come back and eat it... Because it really makes me sick... SO, don't believe in the people who say it was necessary for health or other stupid reasons: they only lie to justify a choice that for them was wrong ... I am proud to be a vegetarian: the only thing that I know for sure in my life is that I' ll never eat  meat in my life again. ;)))))

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