[Updated, Again]: Dervaes Family Trademarks "Urban Homestead" Term: Legal Battle Follows


"This issue has taken up my entire life for the past few days," said Blume. "Urban homesteading is a national movement that's happening in every state. The Dervaes family are part of that movement and have done their part to popularize it. But so have many many others. I disagree with ownership of a common use term that belongs to a popular progressive movement. And as long as our projects are distinguishable, why should we not all get to popularize urban homesteading which is a wonderful lifestyle and could save the world."

Lisa Lucas Talbot, co-leader of Slow Food LA and the Regional Governor for Southern California Slow Food USA, talked about Slow Food International's own trademark stance. "It's true that the 'Slow Food' name accompanied by the snail logo is a registered trademark of Slow Food International," said Talbot. "As the organization has grown worldwide, the phrase "slow food" (in lower case) is often associated with it and its principles. If another organization called itself "Slow Food" there would be the potential for consumer confusion, and I suspect Slow Food International -- or one of its national organizations -- would step in. But if the Santa Monica Public Library wants to host a panel discussion on "slow food versus fast food," I don't see Slow Food raising a cry about trademark infringement."

She adds, "I haven't heard objections to Dervaes' registration of "Path to Freedom," "Homegrown Revolution," or "Little Homestead in the City." In contrast, "urban homestead" and "urban homesteading" have acquired a much broader and more generic meaning, and many people see the registration of these phrases as an attempt to co-opt a movement."

There's a new Take back Urban Homestead-ing(s) page on Facebook, which had been a bit easier to reach than the Dervaes family website (the last several attempts have timed out due to traffic). As of this morning, the new Facebook page was topping well over 800 "likes" and was populated with thoughtful commentary, outright disbelief, anger, and an activist tone that would be expected from a national progressive sustainability movement.

Anger, resentment, and confusion aside, according to recent -- and now deleted -- tweets by Anais, the Dervaes family has received "death threats," over this issue which if true, would actually be more vile than any controversial trademark issues, pending or otherwise. But it's clear that whatever public goodwill the Dervaes family had nurtured along in their quest to tell their own story of sustainable living in the city has pretty much evaporated. In fact, their unapologetic stance and repeated attempts to justify their actions (in part by pointing the finger at other bloggers and magazines) has only fanned the controversy into a fully-fledged old school Internet conflagration.

Facebook's Copyright Policy can be reviewed here.

You can track the Dervaes Institute's trademark process at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Their initial trademark application was denied in December 2008.


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Amy Manning
Amy Manning

Hmmm... this article appeared to be from this year. Are they still harassing writers? I assumed that this behavior was from a month ago and wrote a blog post about it. Please tell me if they've knocked off their BS. http://www.mysuburbanhomestead...

Max
Max

Devraes Contact info:

626-795-8400631 Cypress AvenuePasadena, CA91103-2905

D. S. Aldridge
D. S. Aldridge

Ask them why they trademarked "Homegrown Revolution" and "Freedom Gardens". It's because those were competing websites that they wanted to be able to take down. How Non-Corporate acting is that? This is akin to Facebook trying to trademark the word "book". No, they did not do this for what they would like you to think they did. All this altruism is BUNK! The terms 'urban homestead' and 'urban homesteading' are so popular they get thousands of searches per month on Google alone. The Dervaes just wanted to dominate that spot on the search engines. That's all there is to it. They want more money and more attention.

ComradeRutherford
ComradeRutherford

If the Dervaes' didn't demand Facebook to remove all pages that use the term 'urban homesteading' then Facebook will happily act on any letter demanding sites be shut down no matter who sent them.

Facebook will instantly shut you down if your neighbor forges a letter saying you have violated a copyright and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

Clueseeker
Clueseeker

Dear Dervaes -- Common Courtesy?

Anais posts: "For those who have cared to ask our side to this we thank you. It's sad to see that many have not had the common courtesy."

Dear Anais: 'Common Courtesy', wilts like lettuce left in the sun too long after harvest; it dries up in the face of the harsh facts of Your Family's recent actions; which speak volumes larger than your 'book'.

Jennifer Maiser
Jennifer Maiser

In a world where many of us have strong digital media presences, however, even the supplementary register is pretty scary. Whether or not they have a "right" to shut down a facebook page, once there is a trademark claim made, facebook pretty much rolls over and shuts down the page until there is proof that the two parties have come to an agreement (usually via lawyers). So this means that overnight, you could lose your facebook presence and access to all your supporters.

Grace Pay00
Grace Pay00

From The Bay Citizen:

"On the phone this afternoon Jules Dervaes acknowledged sending the letter [the disputed "hoax" letter] to 16 organizations and businesses (including two publishers), and requesting that the Fabecook pages be taken down. He did want to clarify that – contrary to some rumors – he has not gone after blogs or individuals. “They're all commercial ventures that rival us,” he said. Because the Dervaeses travel often for workshops and talks, he says, the trademark is applicable outside of their hometown of Los Angeles. [...] “We didn’t come up [with] the name but we came up with the application.” He says his family spent three years convincing the United States Patent and Trademark Office that their use of the term was unique, and had to appeal several times because it was so similar to “urban home,” a previously trademarked term.

http://www.baycitizen.org/food...

Iklych
Iklych

This family knows nothing about Trademark Law. Being registered on SUPLEMENTARY REGISTER the have only 2 rights:1.The Registrant may sue in federal court regardless of diversity.2.Certain rights under the Paris Convention that assist overseas registration of the mark. As you see they have no rights to shut down any facebook pages etc. they don't own the terms. If they will be able to proof the rights (the way they understand it) in the federal court they may contact anybody the want and requir anything they want. But their undestanding and interpretation of Trademark Law is completely wrong and no court will be on thier side. It is better for them to step back, cancel their trademark registration and apologise to damaged parties publicly. It is not bad if they indicate a name of a lawer that gave such crazy advice to them to send requests to facebook. We would like to know this hero and express our disrespect to his/her unprofessionalism.

canamjay
canamjay

When will we have sufficient evidence that William S. had it right oh those many years ago: First, we kill all the lawyers.

Anon
Anon

The Dervaes family is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube and it is failing miserably....

Ww
Ww

What about all those pictures on their blog they use that are not theirs? Old canning posters and pictures, pictures of Little House on the Prairie, and many others. That's copyright issues there. I hope the true owners of those pictures find them on their site without the proper credit, acknowledgment, or permission to use them on their blog.

PJ
PJ

I can understand someone trademarking an original phrase or idea but to hijack a generic term, I'm sure the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office did what it is required to do but even they can't think this will hold up. Will it?

Rachel
Rachel

I get why they trademarked the words and phrases in the first place; I actually would prefer to see the Dervaes Institute to gain from it rather than a huge, multi-national corporation. What I don't understand is why they are now going after small, non-profit organizations and individuals within the local food movement for using the trademarked words and phrases. They've been very tight-lipped on the issue so it is hard to form an opinion with their side of the story in mind. Right now it appears to me that they sold out after 40 years of preaching against corporations and are in damage-control mode. I hope they think enough of their fans to tell us why they are going after the little guys when their stated intent was to prohibit the corporations from profiting from the movement.

Iklych
Iklych

I have a proof that Dervaes shut down our facebook account using thier volunteer who lives in thier house. This person did it for food and accomodation in thier house and doesn't get any salary. This family is absolutely unethical. Thier volunteer is unsuccessfully trying now to restore our facebook account. The person is unprofessional and lost emails and codes. We didn't receive any notification from Dervaes claiming copyrights. They simply and falsely reported to Facebook about copyrights violation that is not true at all. For a church leader Dervaes lies too much.

Beecroft
Beecroft

Phonies. Sell-outs. Selfish and Greedy!

Carlie
Carlie

Interesting angle but you might want to actually hear what they are saying which on their blog this morning is "It’s been falsely reported that we are shutting down and suing blogs, schools, libraries – this is not true.! We will not [nor it is our intention to] squelch the use of Urban Homestead or Urban Homesteading nor will we go about hindering this movement by those who are living the lifestyle." They will have a press release soon. I do believe they have been threatened by many people this is sad, I feel that rumors have also been stired up by many people who just do not understand.

Kathleen McKinley
Kathleen McKinley

I've read their press release and it's self-serving hogwash. They have sent "cease and desist" letters to others who use the terms "urban homestead" and "urban homesteading," which are long-standing generic terms that the Dervaes family should NEVER have been allowed to register as their trademarks.

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

APOLOGIST ALERT! APOLOGIST ALERT! Tell this to a straight face to the Institute for Urban Homesteading in Oakland...

Felicia Friesema
Felicia Friesema

At no point in my article do I say that the Dervaes are shutting down blogs or suing anyone. They have however successfully shut down many Facebook pages, disrupting some pretty important avenues of communication for small and vital organizations, thus "squelching" the free flow of information.

I think many people do understand very clearly what's going on and to say that people's anger and frustration of this is unjustified because they are all ignorant is a pretty insulting way to justify their actions and is probably not the most PR friendly way to get people's buy in of their efforts.

As to the threats and vitriol, I think a lot of people would agree the insults and threatening language levied at the Dervaes on a personal level is uncalled for and unproductive and I say as much in my post.

BigWhiteDog
BigWhiteDog

So the next trick is to get Fb to restore all of the lost pages. Good luck getting hold of any actual humans there!

Ruby
Ruby

I want to point out that Slow Food coined the phrase and trademarked it early on in their history. The term was not already representing an entire national movement. When someone creates or invents something new, they have every right to protect it. The Dervaes did not invent Urban Homesteading and if they did, they should have trademarked it long ago, before it became a common and beloved phrase. None of the organizations affected by this would have been confused as the Dervaes family. For the most part these are books, with their own copyrights or small local organizations hundreds of miles away from the Dervaes.

twittyloc
twittyloc

In Texas (I haven't looked up other states yet), Urban Homestead has been a legal entity for over 150 years. Long before Jules was a glimmer in his great-great-grandfather's eye... How the Dervaes family can claim ownership of the term is just beyond me.

Iklych
Iklych

Dervaes's trademark is in SUPPLEMENTAL REGISTER. It means that they almost have no rights. Obviously they have no rights for any exclusivity on this common phrases. The problem is with Facebook that terminates accounts immediatly on violation of trademark rights. Facebook doesn't investigate and search complicated Trademark Law. We still can start CANCELLATION PROCEEDING (and we need to do it), file A PETITION TO CANCEL in US Patent and Trademark Office and create a precedent to prevent future appearance of new dervaes. We are damaged because of weak points of the Trademark Law, unethical behaviour of Dervaes and unfair treatment of Facebook.

anonymous
anonymous

donations to cover their outreach- that would be the nice little vacation they had in Italy last year- right?

Dawn
Dawn

This is the letter I attempted to send to them. Alas, their server seems to be down:

Dear comrades,

I was saddened to learn of your attempt to hoard the term "urban homesteading." I find it hard to believe that you really think that you invented the term or the concept, or that your keeping it to yourselves will enrich the sustainability effort in any way.

Using the tools of the establishment can be very tempting, but we must, each of us, remember our moral responsibility to the truth and to our fellow activists. I will await your futher actions with interest.

With kind regards,

Dawn PillsburyOAEC permaculture training, 2004energy efficiency workergarden2table.blogspot.com

Project Small blog
Project Small blog

Nice way to ruin a lifetime of work Dervaes.The best thing to do is to STOP SUPPORTING them!

Stumpsdontlie
Stumpsdontlie

Funny, their web page lists all the other patents on a long list of words. Holding this patent is one thing, but sending weird letters to other homesteaders saying that it would be "proper" for the Dervaes family to be credited every time a business uses the term which is their busisness name? THAT is where they REALLY crossed the line. The letters look like a shot over the bow of these other urban homesteaders which could turn into legal action. NOT COOL.

Dr. Richard
Dr. Richard

"The Urban Homestead" book written by Erik Knudsen and Kelly Coyne was published before the Derves family filed their trademark application. There are hundreds of cases of prior art and use of the generic phrases "urban homestead" and "urban homesteading". If they had registed "Derves Urban Homesteading", that mark could be protected but the generic phrase will not stand any legal challenge. Derves destroyed years of credibility pulling this stunt.

Anon
Anon

I am of the opinion that their little plan has backfired.

Cornelia
Cornelia

It should be clarified that the Urban Homestead book pictured is NOT a Dervaes property. Erik Knudsen and Kelly Coyne are nothing but generous and open urban homesteaders who wrote this wonderful book

1916 Bungalow
1916 Bungalow

The book The Urban Homestead above is an AWESOME book. Chock full of great tips. I recommend it to anyone. - 1916home

Felicia Friesema
Felicia Friesema

I changed the caption of the picture to note the authors' names. Thanks for the heads up!

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

The Dervaeses are douches, plain and simple. Gracias for the link!

Felicia Friesema
Felicia Friesema

Thanks for breaking the story :)

DaDarrell DeEyessa
DaDarrell DeEyessa

Double thanks, Gustano!!! I am sooo tired of reading about people struggling for freedom in the Muddle East -- here's something finally that's both fun and truly important!

gustavoarellano
gustavoarellano

Ooo, I even have LA Weekly trolls! But you're not quite as pathetic as our OC ones—keep shooting for the stars!

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