Q & A with Ambrose and Guy Pasquini: L.A.'s Single Espresso Origin

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Guy and Ambrose Pasquini.
Decades before a new Seattle import called Starbucks set up shop in the Beverly Connection, or Intelligentsia Silver Lake opened its doors in 2007, a sea change in Los Angeles' coffee history began in Los Feliz. Ambrose Pasquini came to the United States from Milan in 1946 when he was 17, moved to L.A. in his early 20s and within a few years settled in Highland Park. The tool and dye maker began selling espresso from a small rented storefront at Sarno's near Hollywood Boulevard. Eventually Ambrose gave up his day job in Southern California's booming aerospace industry as the demand for Italian Cimbali (pronounced "CHIM-bah-lee") and Faema espresso machines and coffee beans grew among high-end hotel and restaurant clients.

Since the 80s, the original pushers of espresso consumption in L.A. have been based in an ordinary brick building on Olympic and Valencia, just west of the 110 freeway and directly across the street from Loyola Law School. You'd never know this is where five-figure Italian-manufactured machines are sold and repaired, and where beans are roasted in a massive 60-kilo roaster if it weren't for the roof sign with the baroque script Pasquini logo.

Now 83 years old, with many thousands of machines bought, sold and fixed, and five Southern California cafes opened and closed, Ambrose Pasquini still runs the day-to-day operations of the company with his two sons. And yet this isn't exactly an ideal environment for third wave purists. Turn the page for our conversation with Ambrose Pasquini and his son Guy to learn about how they've seen the espresso world change, what they think of the new kids on the proverbial barista block, and the pros and cons of capsule espresso.

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J. Ritz
Pasquini showroom.

Squid Ink: So how did the business get started?

Guy Pasquini: The culture of Italy is to go have espresso and go to work and he [Ambrose] was missing that, so he created one of the first sidewalk cafes on the west coast. He built the first espresso bar here in L.A. And then shortly after that a couple of restaurateurs asked him where to get the machine, and he started importing machines out of his garage when I was a kid in Highland Park. That's how it all got started.

Ambrose Pasquini: Moka D'Oro was the first café on Vermont, right by Sarno's property. I rented from him.

S.I.: It was in the actual Sarno's building? [Note: The building now houses Vermont Restaurant.]

A.P.: It was in the building. He had his whole business and a store next to it, so I took that store.

S.I.: Who were your customers then?

A.P.: We were invaded almost immediately by people from Hungary. Those people were espresso drinkers. They always ordered one "prezzo" -- they called it "prezzo" instead of espresso -- and soda water. Dewey [his friend who worked there] said, "They want soda water, why? Let me charge something." As soon as he charged a dime for it, they said, "Want prezzo, no soda water."

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J. Ritz
Cappuccino from the Cimbali M39.

S.I.: What kind of coffee was available in the area then?

A.P.: The coffee at that time we'd buy coffee from people who made espresso.

S.I.: So where would you find it?

A.P.: There was Gaviña. Or I would get it from San Francisco. There was a place there that was also the first espresso café in San Francisco in North Beach, and this guy came from Italy and he started roasting coffee in a small roaster, and I used to get the coffee from him. Then this Italian lady was doing business and she met this guy and they went into businesses together. They went to San Francisco and they opened this place. It was called Portofino and they came with the roasting machine and with the coffee machine. They started roasting in North Beach. They imported everything from Italy and things they thought they couldn't buy here.

S.I.: When you started doing it in L.A., when did espresso start catching on?

A.P.: It caught on right away, it so happened that we had people coming from Hungary and there were other people. They began to know us as a place they could get espresso.

G.P.: To be honest, the espresso never really caught on, it's cappuccino that they want.

S.I. So more espresso-based drinks?

A.P.: It was always 2-3%. The rest was cappuccino or caffe latte.

S.I.: Who were your first customers for the machines?

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Pasquini's on-site roaster.

A.P.: First came way later than that. Some restaurateurs came to us to have coffee, and started saying, "Where can I get a machine like this?" I said "well, just call somebody in Italy and get it." And then they could not repair the machines, so I went out and started fixing their machines and decided to import them.

I started with Faema. The reason I went to Cimbali was Faema went bankrupt due to various situations. The people from Cimabli were after me, and we've been with this Cimbali ever since. [Note: La Cimbali now owns Faema.]

S.I.: You had another job at the same time?

A.P.: I'm a tool-maker by trade.

S.I.: Where were you working?

A.P.: I was working for Hughes Aircraft.

S.I.: What were the first restaurants who carried the espresso machines?

A.P.: All these restaurants in Beverly Hills. La Scala. Harry's Bar. Ambassador Hotel, Beverly Hills Hotel.

G.P.: I remember as a child going with him on some of the repairs. And UCLA Kerckhoff Coffeehouse.

A.P.: Then after that I opened a place on the Sunset Strip where Le Dome [currently BLT Steak] was. It was called Via Veneto. We were there quite a few years. We were the first people to put the tables outside and at that time the health department would not allow you to put tables outside.

S.I.: They probably didn't know how to permit it?

A.P.: "What is this? Suppose a fly passes by?" "You go like this!" [Waves hand in swatting gesture.] So we put tables outside and then they would send the police or somebody. That went on for a month. Finally they gave up and we kept the tables outside.

S.I.: Have you followed how coffee culture has changed in L.A.?

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Eaglesnest62725
Eaglesnest62725

Wonderful story, loved it! I bought my first espresso machine from Pasquini in 1975 and I'm still a loyal customer after all these years.Bravo Pasquinis!

Orrin Charm
Orrin Charm

Thank you for this wonderful story!  I bought an Olympia Caffarex (the same Swiss machine that Ambrose mentioned and Pasquini sold) from Zabar's in NY back in 1979.  When the machine needed repairs, I brought it to Pasquini, and Ambrose lovingly repaired it himself, even though I hadn't bought it from them.  The best part about getting the machine fixed was getting a complementary absolutely perfect cappucino from Ambrose whenever I came into the shop!

Finally, after many years, they ran out of parts, and I had to start repairing the machine myself . . .

But now, 32 years later, that machine still makes a wonderful espresso!  I've tried some new machines- especially after I managed to burn up all of the wiring by running it dry - but after rewiring the machine and replacing the gaskets, it still makes better espresso than the new machines do- and none of them felt like they'd still be around after 32 years!

Thank you Ambrose and Guy (and Matt and Rudy) for your dedication to coffee and customer service!

Orrin

John Barnes
John Barnes

Great story on a fantastic family owned business.  I use my Livietta daily. Great machine!! I would also recommend the Pasquini roasted coffees to everyone.

Swade
Swade

I find a lot of the claims that these two make are incredibly off-center. 

Nobody uses or makes lever machines anymore? Vittoria Arduino's are still manufactured by Nuova Simonelli, and Blue Bottle Coffee Company uses lever machines (intriguingly, modified La Marzoccos) in spades for its mobile operations in San Francisco and the East Bay, as brick and mortar locations in SF, Oakland, and NYC. 

To call what LM has done a marketing trick is kind of funny, seeing as many of the issues with Cimbalis, Faemas, La Pavonis, and related home machines has been issues of temperature stability, pressure stability, and long-term functionality (all of which, in the home as well as in the professional environment are absolutely necessary for the production of good-tasting coffee) -- something that the previously listed brands all have poor reputations for, and are details that home and professional coffee folk have noted (check most home barista message boards and professional reviews on coffeed). The workhorse nature of LM's is not a marketing schtick -- it's representative of the way the machines are built, and the innovations -- through their work with baristas and coffee companies -- that keep them ahead of the game. (We won't go any deeper into the the claims of "greeness" in Cimbali products, other than to indicate they require more energy AND time to produce similar results to any LM, Synesso, or related product, intended for home or the professional environment.)

The flippant responses to issues such as tamping -- evenness of extraction requires tamping to ensure replicable results -- and the impact of K-cups -- most consumers after investing in them tend not to move to bean coffee in any form in the home environment -- indicates a lot of pre-conceived notions and dogma regarding their own product and industry. They're choosing to believe what they want to believe. This is not some marketing mythology that a bunch of asshat yuppies bought into -- there is a degree of science, research, and testing that people have done in the industry. I appreciate their history in the Los Angeles area -- and the copy that deals with that history -- but counterfactual statements regarding the prep and execution of espresso from a professional placement that denigrate the whole industry without anything to back it up is wholly unprofessional. 

Doland
Doland

I am biased. I owned a Livietta for 18 years and currently use a Livia 90. My dealings with the Pasquini family have been better than dealing with certain members of my own family. They are intelligent, caring, and "old world." Perhaps you don't agree with certain opinions, but using terms like "flippant" and "unprofessional" seems overly agressive, especially if you have ever met the Pasquinis. Until the comment above I had never met anyone with negative feelings about their products or their philosopy.

Gone In A Minute
Gone In A Minute

Finally!  I was waiting for some pretentious coffee-obsessed loser to denigrate these guys, and you were able to do it!! Horray for you!

Imagine what this country could be like if these coffee freaks actually focused on important issues.

Greg Thomas
Greg Thomas

Their tamping comment is not as flippant as you imply.  There is more and more evidence that tamping is overrated with consistent grinding and dosing, especially with any machine that does pre-infusion, the relevant section is 3/4 of the way down:  http://bit.ly/rx3rrZ

I don't bother with tamping pressure any more with our Astoria lever nor with our little Livietta mentioned above.

Leigh Bardugo
Leigh Bardugo

Great interview. Especially loved the history. 

sinosoul
sinosoul

What a lovely piece. I say this after drinking an espresso pulled from a Livia 90 this morning. Alas, I was bougie and tamped. 

Greg Thomas
Greg Thomas

Thank you for such a great article on a wonderful company.  I have a 1980 Livietta, it's really built to last.  From the back of my machine:  "For music Puccini, For Art Bernini, For Espresso Pasquini"

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