How to Talk to Your Indie Rocker Friends About Your Grateful Dead Past

By Kristina Benson Wed., Apr. 20 2011 at 8:56 AM

Back in 2009, the National's Bryce and Aaron Dessner produced and curated the double-disc compilation Dark Was the Night. The proceeds from this double-disc compilation benefited the AIDS-fighting Red Hot Organization and featured a selection of indie rock bands from Spoon to Death Cab. Yesterday, the Dessers announced that they will be doing a second comp for Red Hot--but this one will be a Grateful Dead tribute.

Why oh why would they do this, you might be wondering. Some of you, however, might be wondering the opposite. As in: how wonderful that they are doing this but how can I hide my enthusiasm for this given that I must disguise my penchant for Grateful Dead-related topics from my hipster/indie friends? What follows is a guide to having this discussion, as well as a broader discussion about your shameful Grateful Dead past.

We'll go over fun facts to mention (such as: the fact that you can find a five-year-old Courtney Love pictured on the back sleeve of their 1969 release, Aoxomoxoa), as well as what not to mention (such as: fashion), and what to stress (their participation in the Acid Tests, as well as their interest in technological innovations such as the Wall of Sound and what was in 1997 referred to as "cyberspace"). So, here we go! The DOs and DON'Ts!

Phil Lesh and Donna Jean

DO be honest.

First, if your friends are not total assholes they will appreciate you for who you are. If you followed the Grateful Dead, now's the time to 'fess up. If you didn't but you wanted to, now is also the time to 'fess up. This comp, which (as you should remind your friends if they are being jerks) will benefit a charity that fights AIDS, is as good a conversation starter as any.

Grateful Dead ticket stubs

DO contextualize the Grateful Dead within the larger framework of American live music history.

The Grateful Dead, like it or not, was the most successful touring band in contemporary history. The Grateful Dead was always, first and foremost, a live act, playing nearly every weekend for thirty years for an average of around 77 times per year. There were, of course, exceptions, like in 1975, where they performed only five times the entire year. Still. That's a pretty impressive schedule and we are hard-pressed to think of another band that could fill stadiums throughout the U.S., weekend after weekend, year after year, for as long as the Dead did.

The Wall of Sound was built exclusively for the Grateful Dead to use on tour. It was considered the largest live sound system in use at the time, and they toured with it from 1974 to 1976.

DO mention that the Grateful Dead was also on the cutting edge of technology.

From participating in the Acid Tests to creating the Wall of Sound to experimenting with MIDI to a 1997 attempt to construct a virtual version of Terrapin Station, the Dead (and their fans) was always an innovator. Long before music executives were having conniptions about trading mp3s online, the Grateful Dead invited fans to tape live concerts and trade them amongst themselves, recognizing that the experience of being at a live show was a far cry to listening to it on tape, and furthermore, that it was "easy enough to restrict the real experience of the desirable event to those willing to pay for being there." Forward thinking, no?

DON'T mention the fashion.

Maybe leave that part out.

Back cover of Aoxomoxoa. Fun fact: Courtney Love is one of the kids in this picture. Can you guess which one she is?

DO play your indie friends some Grateful Dead songs if they seem sufficiently interested.

Might we be so bold as to suggest selections from Aoxomoxoa or Workingman's Dead if you will be using a studio album? (And if you use Aoxomoxoa, perhaps you could invite your friends to guess which of the children on the back cover is Courtney Love?)

In summary:

DON'T be ashamed of your sordid Grateful Dead past (except for maybe the fashion.)

Especially if it was after Touch of Grey, because at that time, it really did seem as though everyone was doing it.

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Courtney Love, Grateful Dead, Red Hot Organization

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That chick in that dead bear top is a current picture from a large hippie shop. With that said there is no reason to be ashamed of the Grateful Dead or your liking of the music. The songs and the shows mean a great deal to the fans many can tell you the entire setlist from the shows they went to. The following was legendary pick any band with the loyalty the Grateful Dead had from there fans. You can't and that in itself is their legacy.

Ethan

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guest

er... it's become pretty well established that the Dead have become well accepted and loved in hipster land thanks to the ongoing psych underground, and even indie going all beardy and trippy over the last several years... most 'hipster' types I know are quite into the Dead now, there's no shame in it now, and rightfully so!

addiec

There is NOTHING like a Grateful Dead Concert!

Blakeepitts

and by the way, whoever wrote this is seventeen and listens to Beach House or some other indie turdsalad.

Blakeepitts

this article is really, really dumb.

VungRee

Wow, OK man that really does make a LOT of sense dude. Wow.

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Buzzchunk

You missed the part where the Dead are in part responsible for the invention of email as stated in Nerds 2.0.1 1998 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

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Reverend Justito

Good thing none of my pals are hipster assholes. In the event I had such a rotten friend, I would just let em know that Row Jimmy song they love so much by The Decemberists is actually a Dead song.

ella funt

and that Scarlet Begonias as interpreted by Sublime is also a Grateful Dead song!

Patgasm

The fashion, and the wearing of patchouli! The scent of patchouli has been forever dead to me (pun intended) because too many heads always wore too much fuckin' patchouli!!!

TheSpoiler

This article sucks, who goes from touring with the Dead to being an indie rocker with asshole friends?

Cnsmith1984

Just because you might have friends who didn't tour with the Dead and might not know much about them, doesn't automatically make them assholes. This is a great article for those who understand that people evolve, just like music evolves. Just because I appreciate indie-rock doesn't mean that i can't still appreciate the Dead and all their glory! If I'm a true Deadhead, i know that music is about connection, collective experience, understanding, and a passion to help others feel the love, whether through indie-rock or the music of the Dead.

Elan-vital

Hmmm, you don't seem to be like any dead head I've ever known, more snobby and elitist which is the exact opposite. What happened to accepting other's differences and helping others understand different ways of living life. People change, like different things, people have all types of friends, people accept and love others who may be different then they are.

TiffyToes

LA Deadheads: CUBENSIS (www.cubensis.com / http://www.facebook.com/pages/... is KEEPING THE DEAD ALIVE here with concerts a couple of times a WEEK (we're spoiled). Come have a dance.

Mato

The top picture is Phil Lesh and Donna Jean, not Bob Weir

LA Weekly Music Staff

oh dear! it was mis-labeled and we tried to upload a pic that was indeed of bob and donna. our bad. that is indeed phil lesh. mea culpa!

lawmusicmoderator

thanks!

hellie

First off, that's Phil not Bob. Then - the chick in the bear top is super cute even if the clothes are totally dated; she looks great in it. Lastly, as previously noted - the fact of Jerry should say it all. Oh and the music that never stopped... which leads back to Jerry...