Top 10 Lies of the Music Industry

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Jeffrey Weber is the author of the recently-released You've Got A Deal: The Biggest Lies Of The Music Business.

Based in Beverly Hills, Weber is a longtime industry producer known for his work with Luther Vandross and Ronnie James Dio, and two of his projects won Grammys.

But after 30 years he's left the corporate rat race to work directly with artists. With his new freedom Weber has decided to expose the more dubious aspects of the business. Here are his top ten record industry lies, pulled from his book. We talked to him about what exactly these lies mean.

10. "We love your stuff."

According to Weber, when producers say this, what they really mean is either: "I don't know who you are," "I listened to it and it's not very good," "I never got it" or "I didn't listen to it." It's a white lie to spare artists' feelings. Weber adds that a producer who has actually listened to your stuff will have a complex understanding of what works and what doesn't. Those who haven't listened tend toward vague praise.

9. "We'll fix it in the mix."

This really means "We'll do our best to make you sound like an artist," Weber says, which sounds to us something like "It'll grow out" after a bad trip to the barber. The final product might be all right, but the recording is sub par.

8. "The booking is definite."

What this really means, according to Weber, is that the booking agent doesn't know who you are, is waiting for someone who's going to be a better draw or -- preferably -- an audience that's going to spend more on booze than yours. Remember that the clubs are in business to turn a profit, not to give your band exposure.

7. "It's hot in the clubs."

Rather than answering your question, a record company exec will supply you with a silver lining in the form of a non-sequitur. "It means you're getting a lot of attention and buzz in clubs," he says, but also that "no one has a clue about your record and no one's buying it."

6. "My last band had a record deal, but we broke up before recording an album."

There are deals and there are deals. "When someone says you have a deal," he says, "it means you have a deal until the next guy up the chain says 'are you crazy?'" He's also clear about the realities of the recording industry. "If marketing and promotions don't believe in the record, there is no deal, regardless of what A&R says." This pressure often causes bands to break up before a real deal gets signed.

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Marx_was_wrong
Marx_was_wrong

Number 11: Getting a English degree at Amherst will prevent you from taking payola to write reviews on LA Weekly's music blogs. 

Rightbeatradio
Rightbeatradio

Nice! I don't directly work in the music "industry" but I do work in a corporate office building and I'm not at all surprised with this article. To me it sounds like business as usual. Thanks!

INTERNETDRUMMER
INTERNETDRUMMER

I HAVE STUDIED MUSIC FOR 43 YEARS. I HAVE WALKED THROUGH THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF SONGS MUSICALLY.OVER 300,000 HOURS PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED.  ONCE YOU HEAR LEONARD BERNSTEIN SPEAK OF THE ARCHETYPES, THEN, I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO PRESENT TO ALL IN THE USA AND THE WORLD OVER, THEY HAVE BEEN PRACTICING WITCHCRAFT AGAINST THE PRINCE AND PRINCESS OF ISRAEL, BOTH CARRY THE MUSICAL VOICE ENCODE OF KING DAVID AND SOLOMON. VAIS AND GATEKEEPER.   SEE TORAH.

 THEIR NAMES ARE CRYPTICLY ENGRAINED IN THE STAR DEACONS AQUILA AND LYRA. NATIONAL TREASURE, 5TH ELEMENT JEWISH SOPRANO ROYALTY. GOT IT.THEY USE THESE UNIVERSAL ENSIGNS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE TRUE HEIRS OF THE THRONE OF ISRAEL REGARDLESS OF ANYONE'S BOOK FORM OVER 2000 YEARS AGO. MICHAELS BOAT IS A MUSIC BOAT,HARK THE HERALD ANGELS SING, IS NOT A GROP SINGING IN HEAVEN. I GAURANTEE IT.

 IN MY EXPOSING WITCHCRFAT THROU MUSIC BIN, I CAN PROVE THIS EXACT FACT THOUSANDS OF TIMES FULL CIRCLE EACH TIME.

"HOW CAN THEIR BE SUCH A SINISTER PLAN, THAT COULD HIDE SUCH A LAMB, SUCH A CAREING YOUNG MAN?" STYX EZEKIEL 37:15  

THEY BLOCK THE TRUE INTELECT OF A HUMAN, BY PURVEYING THESE MESSAGES. LOOK UP THE LAW BOOKS, WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS SORT OF MOCKING THROUGH G-DS GIFT, CALLED MUSIC.  WHAT THEY DO KNOW, IS MUSIC MEANS WORD, AND WORD MEANS MUSIC...THATS WHY ALL THE SATANIC SYMBOLS AND BACKWARDS WORDS.      SEEE.....IN THE TORAH, THE SYMBOL FOR MUSIC IS CALLED LYRA, THE DAUGHTER OF DAVID A VENERATING SYMBOL. THATS WHY IT IS ON OUR DOLLAR WITH THE "PORTARE SHIELD"  THATS IRREVERSABLE IN UNIVERSAL NATURE AND LAW. VENERATING SYMBOLS. OR 2 PEOPLE.  FACT!

LOOK UP THE WORD PRESA. THE ENSIGNS IN HERALDRY FOR ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WILL MATCH IN ANY DICTIONARY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.LIBRA-ARIES   HMM....THATS WHY THE LY B RA RIES WORD IS CONSTRUCTED AS SUCH.FACT, WHAT IS YOUR EXPLANATION FOR THAT WORD, IT IS BASED IN ALPHA AND OMEGA IN 2 FAMILY GENEOLOGIES TOTALLY RAPED FROM OUR KNOWLEDGE, THATS WHY IT WORKS SO WELL FOR THAT INDUSTRY. IT'S CALLED WITCHCRAFT AT IS WORLD WID WORST. MUSIC HAS LONG BEEN HIGHJACKED.   2 PILLARS, SOLOMON BUILDING.....SHEEEESH!   PLEASE...

2 PEOPLE CARRY THESE ENCODED NAMES, ALIVE TODAY AND THE WORLD WILL SEE THIS BY 2020.  SO THEY USE MUSIC TO WASH THAT FACT AWAY, THEN THEY REPLACE IT WITH THINGS LIKE, CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WHICH AGAIN!, WATCH THIS, CRYSAETOS AND COLUMBIDAE. PRINCE MICHAEL AND THE DAUGTHER OF DAVID LIBERTY.DANIEL 11. THE PRINCE OF THE COVENANT AND THE DAUGHTER OF THE KING OF THE SOUTH.

MY ASSESMENT WILL SOON MAKE WORLD HISTORY, BECAUSE THEY USE THESE SAME SYMBOLS TO PUT THE WHOLE WORLD AGAINST EACH OTHER UNDER FALSE PRETENSES. I PROMISE YOU, THIS CAN NEVER BE DISPROVEN, NOT WHILE I'M IN THE ROOM.  I WAS  LAST ENTERTAINER OF THE HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM OF THE PAST MILLENNIUM, 3500 PEOPLE , THE LONE DRUMMER, ABLE TO MAKE OVER 7000 SONGS COME TO LIFE LIKE NO ONE ELSE CAN DO. 2500 SONGS SUNG EXACTLY LIKE THE ARTISTS.

LEGENDS OF THE GAURDIAN FOR EXAMPLE, ONCE AGAIN, THERE IS THE AQUILA FACTOR, THATS WHY THE PALLADIUM IS THERE, THATS WHY THEY CALL MOVIE PEOPLE AND MUSICIANS STARS.   THEY ALL WALK IN SOMEONE ELSES TITLE, WHILE THEIR TRUE ENTITLEMENT HAS BEEN WASHED AWAY BY WICKED PEOPLE IN THAT INDUSTRY, WHO ARE AT THE GOVERNING LEVELS. THE CHARTOGRAPHY OF CALIPHA, ORNIA WILL CONFIRM THIS, THAT IS WHY CALIPHATE IS THE ROOT OF CALIFORNIA, THERE IS NO OTHER LEXICON LINK FOR THIS STAE (STATUE) 2 GATEKEEPER,(ARK OF COVENANT, 

 IT IS IN EVERYTHING. 2010 ALPHA AND OMEGA "VOICE RELATED"LEGION,THE EAGLE, KINGS SPEECH, MICHAEL ROW THE BOAT ASHOER...HOW ABOUT THIS ONE TO FINALLY PROVE MY WORDS FOR ALL OF US TO SEE.

"THIER BEATING PLOWSHARES INTO SWORDS FOR THE TITLED MAN THATS THE ELECTED KING! 

THERE IS YOUR PROOF. THEY ARE NOT MAKING YOU AWARE OF IT, THEY ARE SLIPPING THE FACTS, INTO A FICTIONAL SENSE, SO ISRAEL WILL NEVER FIND THE MUSICAL HEIR TO KING DAVID. VOICE. DANIEL 10:21- DANIEL 12 THE VOICE, MOODY BLUES.READ THOSE PASSAGES ON THIS OPPINION AND THEY WILL BE STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE!!

SIGNED, THE LORD DRUMMER, MICHAEL(WHO IS LIKE GOD) LUDIWG (FAMOUS WARRIIOR) PORTARO, =GATEKEEPER 

Brian McPherson
Brian McPherson

This might be the lamest article I have ever read.  Who the hell is the music editor at the LA Weekly these days?  And what's with all these lame lists?  And this "insider" - never heard of him.  He;s selling a book full of these well worn cliches?  Sad.

Marx_was_wrong
Marx_was_wrong

The author, Nicholas Pell, is a graduate of the radical left-wing English department at U Mass Amherst. Under the name "Nick Pell" he used to write an endless flow of Marxist screeds for a variety of websites.  After I handed his ass to him on numerous occasions (summary: Marx was falsified on innumerable occasions and professional economists haven't taken Marx seriously for decades), he "rebranded" himself as Nicholas Pell,  LA hipster. He took down most of his websites, but browse Disinfo for a few choice examples of my kneecapping him.

He also wrote a zillion articles for eHow until I reminded him that writing for sites like that actually looked bad on a professional writer's resume.

Now, Mr. Pell is apparently reduced to taking payola from publishing companies to write reviews.

Taylor
Taylor

does anyone edit this crap? there is a minefield out there for small bands and this condescending and humorless "information" will not help you navigate it.

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

Ahh, (finally) the truth will set us free! I just wish Weber had written a book like this back in the '80s when I was still naive and believed this type of deceitful industry jibber-jabber. Better late than never, though. Valuable insight, to be sure. 

Jonathanbigelow
Jonathanbigelow

Wow this is really ....Lame. 30 years and this is all he could come up with. 

Terrycart
Terrycart

That is informative, these tips does make me know the music industry better.

Suckradio
Suckradio

“The 2012 Grammys”OR: HOW DAVE GROHL MIGH SINGLEHANDEDLY RUN SUCKRADIO.com OUT OF BUSINESS!By Harley Shean: SUCKRADIO.comI was in Mexico. I had no TV. I didn’t care. I was on vacation. No ‘live’ Grammy telecast for “Harley.” A listener once asked me if I was stranded on a desert island, what five albums I would take with me. My answer was;” none of them!” That said, upon my return to southern California, my morbid curiosity did, however, drive me to search for Grammy highlights on the internet.  …Which brings me to the 2012 Grammy’s. Along with everyone else on the planet I was shocked and saddened (but not too surprised) at the passing of “Whitney Houston.” If you’re looking for a crass, heartless remark or if you’re prone to make one about the tragic death of a celebrity…well you can suck it. I will however caution all you “brides-to-be” out there: During your wedding reception, no matter what the DJ says OR plays, do not…I repeat…do NOT ‘slow dance’ with your brand new husband to [Houston’s] “Saving All My Love For You.” Listen to the song. Read the lyrics. The song is about CHEATING ON YOUR HUSBAND…Darling!Now that that’s settled let’s talk “Bruce Springsteen.” For some inexplicable reason, this man has the staying power of “Cher.” It can’t be his music, because his music sucks. This is not open to debate. It’s a fact. The man’s music sucks. He sucks. But we already knew that going in. What never fails to intrigue me is his uncanny, almost “nether worldly” ability to come up with new and interesting ways of making a complete ass of himself that would even make the WWF (World Wrestling Federation) blush. Case in point…his intro [kicking off his 2012 Grammy performance] went something like this: “…Ladies and Gentlemen! For the next 12 minutes…the “righteous” E Street Band…is coming into (points at camera) your beautiful home! Step away from the guacamole…put down the chicken fingers and turn the TV…ALL THE WAY UP!”  I shit you not. What a jack ass. What a condescending wiener. So I have been waiting all year for Springsteen and his E Street Idiots to enter my “beautiful home” so much so that I’m glued to the TV, loading up on guacamole and chicken fingers just waiting for “The Boss” to give me 12 minutes of that same unmitigated pretentious swill he’s been dispensing to us since I was in grade school. Thanks Bruce. If I WAS at home that night I would have heeded your warning and turned the TV in my “beautiful home” …all the way OFF for exactly 12 minutes. This would have given me ample time to rustle up some chicken fingers and gobble them down with minimal annoyance.“Nicki Minaj.” Already screwing with my spell check, gotta love this lady! Truth be told, she’s actually a lot of fun to listen too. “Super Bass” is one of my favorites on the SUCKRADIO.com playlist. For my money, to be entertained this much by anyone else working in a similar genre, one would have to download some early “Ke$ha.” But that’s not what this is about, is it? You know it and I know it. The “red nun suit,” the “Pope-look-a-like-date” …the exorcism?” …Hmmm I’m gonna have to get a judge’s ruling on this one! In retrospect, everything Nicki wanted to be said about her appearance and performance was already said before I landed at LAX from Cancun. I guess what it boils down to is she just did her homework. Think about it. In Basketball, it’s the “Triangle Offense.”  In Football it’s the “No-Huddle Offense.” In Popular Music, it’s the “Catholic Offense!” I mean “Madonna,”  “Marilyn Manson,” “Lady Gaga,”  “Ozzy Osbourne” and I suspect “Barbara Streisand” have all offended the Catholic Church. Here’s an idea: Pick a new religion to pick on or stop picking on religion. It’s old, tired and boring…and you might go to hell.  “Drake.” Never in the history of Hip-Hop has our neighbor to the north (“Canada” for the geographically challenged) introduced a truly remarkable artist to the Hip Hop community with a fresh, new, bold sound, mesmerizing beats, clever and compelling rhymes and a street smart swagger. …They still haven’t. The only thing we know for sure is…Drake is a Canadian.  “Chris Brown.”  …Only two performances in one night? This is how they [The Grammy Committee] honor a man who beats up women? Why didn’t they make him the Host? Was he on the L.A. County Jail Work Release Program? Who was his date, his parole officer? “Dave Grohl.” What’s with this guy? The nerve, showing up to the Grammy’s with a tight, clean, cool album with his group “The Foo Fighters.” And then, winning five Grammys and making the most honest, inspiring speech in the history of the organization [The Grammy Committee] that brought you the sheer genius and unparalleled integrity that is “Milli Vanilli.” And I quote: “…This is about the human element of making music…it’s what’s most important. Singing into a microphone and learning to play an instrument.” Dave goes on to say that they [The Foo Fighters] eschewed the best Hollywood recording studios, equipment and computers opting to make this record in his garage with a tape machine. OMG…if this behavior catches on…this could signal, dare I say it…the end of SUCKRADIO.com. Bring it…Grohl! 

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