Top 20 Worst Bands of All Time: #20-16


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17. Phish

Phish is supposed to be the next generation's Grateful Dead, right? But with the Dead, one at least enjoyed a fighting chance of enjoying them sober. Also, there's the fact that the Dead never composed these lyrics: "Down with disease/ Up before the dawn/ A thousand barefoot children outside dancing on my lawn." -Elano Pizzicarola

See also: Can an Intelligent Person Like Phish?

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16. 4 Non Blondes

We can be thankful that 4 Non Blondes only made one album-- 1992's Bigger, Better, Faster, More! -- but it's a doozy, a mess of classic rock wails and faux bluesiness. Consider yourself lucky if you don't remember lyrics like "Oh please Mr. President, will you lend me a future." Their hit "What's Up?" meanwhile combines the worst of what Ani DiFranco and grunge had to offer, all of it dressed up in thrift store clothing that probably smelled funny. The quartet has disappeared, but the band's dubious legacy lives on through member Linda Perry, writer and producer of some of the most boring radio songs imaginable, including Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful" and Pink's "Get the Party Started." -Liz Ohanesian

See also:
*Top 20 Worst Bands of All Time, #15-11
*Top 20 Worst Bands of All Time, #10-6
*Top 20 Worst Bands of All Time: #5-1

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MaxwellAtkins
MaxwellAtkins

I agree about Dave Matthews, Pearl Jam, Pussycat Dolls, Pretty Rickey, and ESPECIALLY Black Eyed Peas.

 

But you cannot have a "20 Worst Bands List" without Creed, Nickelback, Skrillex, or U2

MaxwellAtkins
MaxwellAtkins like.author.displayName 1 Like

You are a complete idiot. Phish is the best active band in the world right now.

 

After almost 30 years of performing, they are STILL a top act, writing new original music and touring regularly. They (within minutes) sold out the Madison Square Garden for 4 nights leading to New Years Eve, playing entirely different material each night - and they have done it TIME and TIME again. They held multiple festivals where they were the only performing act and those festivals were the most populated cities in the state for the weekend. They have an extensive catalog of both originals and covers. And they did it all by themselves WITH ALMOST NO RADIO PLAY or help from the mainstream media. Not to mention I have never come across a group of musicians who treat their fans with more respect than Phish. 

 

You are just an ignorant, brainless, tasteless idiot and you have no business rating and reviewing music. Good day.

 

kristenlflores
kristenlflores

This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read...really?!? Oasis, Pearl Jam, Sex Pistols, Black Eyed Peas, and DAVE MATTHEWS!?! 

Jason Seibert
Jason Seibert

I never waste time with stuff like this, Overly opinionated people bother me . But...I DO think all these bands suck...and thats my opinion!

Paul S.
Paul S.

 Hey Elano, check-out the new Celine Dione album.  You freaking idiot. Without question, Phish has the most diverse musical portfolio than any band in history, and their music is some of the most complex compositions....much too deep, rich, and progressive for your "taste"

AL g
AL g

what a pos i bet you not one person agrees with you with phish... phish got rated the number 1 band from some magor company i noticed on one of their live albums.... and i dont even do that many drugs any more.... no they dont compare to the dead.... and yes they are better stoned.... but drugs will not make any band good... so to speak... this company sucks

spike
spike

SUCK MY FUCKING COCK!

boonded
boonded

i realize this article is about the worst bands of all time, however let me shed a little light on the subject:

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Although it may be difficult, closing doesn't have to be painful or bewildering. Here are a few basic pointers to help demystify this potentially awkward process:

•Close from the beginning. Don't confuse this idea with the hard sell; the cutthroat approach alienates many potential customers. Instead, explain your agenda. Tell the prospect exactly what you're selling and how it can benefit their business. Being up front about your intentions promotes an honest, mutually respectful, and rewarding discussion — paving the way for a smooth close.

•Learn to recognize when potential customers are ready to buy. A customer might indicate they're ready by asking questions about the product or the buying process: "How long would delivery take?" "What does that button do?" or "Is an upgrade available?" Other signs include complaints about previous vendors and interested comments such as "Really?" or "Good idea."

•Don't respond to questions with merely a yes or no. Answer your prospect's queries with questions of your own. Carefully chosen, these return questions can help lead to a sale. For example, instead of answering the question, "Does this come in black?" with merely an affirmative, you could say, "Would you like it in black?"

•Free trials often lead directly to sales. In sales-speak, this approach is sometimes called the "puppy-dog" close, because it's reminiscent of the attachment children develop to a puppy after keeping it overnight. This strategy works well for all sorts of businesses and appears frequently in magazine subscriptions, where you can receive one month for free; Internet services, where there are often free 30-day memberships; and car sales, where potential buyers are offered test drives.

•Suggest specific terms. Rather than asking whether your prospect wants to buy, suggest a specific buying scenario and then ask if your customer agrees to it. For example, "We can ship 150 units on Tuesday for $1,000. Do you want us to do that?" addresses three separate questions: the number of units to be shipped, the price of the shipment, and time it will be sent out. If your prospect is uncomfortable with any of the specifics — for example, he wants shipment on Monday — he will say so. You've offered him a chance to let you make decisions about details that otherwise would delay a sale. But be sure you know enough about your customers' needs to make reasonable suggestions. Otherwise you'll sound ignorant and pushy.

tre_c_b
tre_c_b

I have read every paragraph that the authors try to pass as a collaborative work and I can't help but scoff through it, which, being as I find it difficult to live every day with my head up my ass, I am not want to do unless it is warranted. However, with the exception of the pole position, every band review on the list is shit talking for the sake of shit talking. It's almost like listening to an early Eminem album. The collectively skewed view of this particular congregation of know-nothings in know-it-all's tight pants, ironically themed screen-print tee's and thick-rimmed glasses would have you believe that every artist that you might not have caught as they passed by (and some of them, admittedly did so much faster than others) is competing to be a member in a William Hung tribute band. Perhaps the views held by these writers were just too against the mainstream bourgeoisie to be posted by a reputable publication. But most likely, just too ludicrous, exaggerated and falsified. I probably would have not been as taken aback if this was the Weekly World website. But then again, those guys know a thing or two about creativity and artistic expression.

And by the way... ^ that is how you write a slam piece. <3

~Tre_C_B

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Well aren't you just edgy as fuck.

Melody Bennici
Melody Bennici

ahahaahhaahah are you drunk???? this list is outrageous!!

MattP
MattP

Whoever wrote this is a raging tool without any idea why good music is. These bands are better at music, than you are journalism. Get a day job...

Fys
Fys

This guy must have been on crack or some Mountain person with no tv that listens to rap thinking their white!

Curious Sky
Curious Sky

This is a pointless list showing (yet again) that while Timeout is an excellent place to find out what's happening, it's content is week and amateurish.

Tiffany Ellzey
Tiffany Ellzey

Oh and kudos for not putting The Spice Girls on this list! What a pleasant surprise. And no, I'm not being sarcastic lol. With their pure unadulterated camp and swishy lyrics, they rocked for owning their over the top spiciness.

Tiffany Ellzey
Tiffany Ellzey

While this was amusing and pretty accurate, some of the bands on this list were obviously more opinion based than factual. Just because YOU don't like the band doesn't mean they deserve a spot on this list. More objectivity please!

Nirvana7
Nirvana7

The Sex Pistols were the perfect punk rock band. One gtreat album and crazy tour and then implosion.Whoever wrote this list is an idiot.

Rory Biller
Rory Biller

Seriously. No U2?

Sex Pistols, LCD Soundsystem, Pearl Jam, Raconteurs and Oasis. Wrong on all of them.

Ted Kane
Ted Kane

U2 does seem like low hanging fruit.

Garrett9586
Garrett9586

Who wrote this piece of shit list.......Yea Dave Mathews sucks titty balls......but Oasis Raconteurs...and the Pistols really...your a fucking idiot!

John Cuba
John Cuba

Are you serious? the raconteur? hey man btw you forgot jonas brothers 

Jenny
Jenny

Here's a photo of the douchebag that wrote this article. Kind of looks like Kris Humprhies had a kid with Dionne Warwick. First of all, this thing IS a guy, not a chick. Yes, he;s like 21, and no...he doesn't know shit about music. So much is laughable...the fact that he thinks the Dead got sober (never happened) and Phish isn't (they have been since 2007). He picks the most popular song they have, because anything else would require research.

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_im...

Sam P. Sandilla Jr.
Sam P. Sandilla Jr.

wtf two of these band shouldn't be here,'m  sure half of the crids, here can't play any thing or even write or sing etc whatever.

BathtubGin
BathtubGin

well if this moron columnist hates phish then she may as well hate the string cheese incident, Moe, phil lesh and friends, dmb, ratdog, widespread panic, ween, the dead, and any other music that she hasnt even heard and that isnt talked about on MTV and the View. Shes just a dumb kid who only knows pop music, and her opinion is if it isnt talked about everyday and read about then it isnt good music. but just bieber is cool cuz hes talked about everyday. Those singers are just set up by media to make millions then die off.

dmb
dmb

how could someone not like Phish? their music is put together very well. Yea, their lyrics can be goofy and a bit out there, but its fun and relaxing to take your mind off the world and think about abnormal stuff.

Hater hater.
Hater hater.

Coincidentally, this list was compiled by the 20 Worst "Journalists" of All Time.  It's like a fucking Dream Team over there at the Weekly these days.

Dong Thomas
Dong Thomas

Phish owns LA Weekly's sorry asses: Fact!

Dennis Farrell
Dennis Farrell

This would probably rank top five in "20 worst lists of all time".

BD
BD

Aw, Oasis is fucking rad!

Shafbag
Shafbag

I'm a Phish fan (over 20 years) and a music fan.  I get the fact that not everyone gets or likes Phish (even I didn't at first) but to name them one of the worst bands of all time speaks to the sheer ignorance of the article.  Surely Phish is not for everyone but their creativity, influence and talent cannot be denied.

Anon
Anon

this blog wishes it could make any Top 20 List.

Joel Lindenberg
Joel Lindenberg

Elano Pizzicarola, not sure if you're a dude or chick but absolutely positive you're a douchebag :)

SammySosa77
SammySosa77

 Show me a black chick that knows shit about music. Can't do it.

John
John

This is simply a column intentionally designed to bash the 1990s music scene.  It's too bad the '90s didn't have glorious gems such as Lil Wayne and Justin Beiber. Perhaps then the decade might have gotten some love from this wannabe columnist. Phish? WTF? Really?

Dpietro
Dpietro

This article only proves to some, and reinforces to the rest of us, that LA really is full of tool bags. You guys really don't know shit. At least try not to live up to the stereotype. Christ! The music scene in that shitbucket you call a city, is about as real as the tits! 

Magicbikes
Magicbikes

Over Labor Day weekend in Colorado, Phish played a concert with a 26 song setlist. All the songs beginning with the letter "S". No other band has even considered such an awesome display of musical genius. They are Rock and Roll Hall of Fame bound.

Jibboo
Jibboo

Phish, the 17th worst band of alltime is one of the headlining acts at Bonnaroo, guess that makes Bonnaroo theworst music festival going.

Tim Joseph
Tim Joseph

 The band pioneered the concept of the single-artist music and arts festival with The Clifford Ball, held at a decommissioned Air Force base in upstate New York in 1996. Rolling Stone called it groundbreaking, marveling: “there was a real story; that in an age of corporate sponsorship, this completely home-grown thing happened that was different from any other concert." It was followed by The Great Went, Lemonwheel, Oswego, Big Cypress, It, Coventry, Festival 8 and, most recently, Super Ball IX, which took place at Watkins Glen International over Fourth of July weekend 2011. As The New York Times observed: “there may be no band in the world that goes to lengths as extravagant as Phish does to provide a multiday entertainment experience.”http://lineup.bonnaroo.com/ban... 

Tim Joseph
Tim Joseph

"Founded in Burlington, VT in 1983, Phish has since established itself as one of the most adventurous bands of our era, with a passion for exploration that permeates all of its endeavors – from its genre-busting blend of musical styles and trailblazing approach to the live music experience to its creative packaging and inventive methods for connecting with fans."

Source: http://lineup.bonnaroo.com/ban...

Like I needed a source to tell me that. 

Elano, you're a moron.

Josh Johnson
Josh Johnson

It's easy to opine that Phish music sucks.  Maybe you don't like the lyrics, the drawn out solos, or the culture that follows the band (I've never been able to come to grips with dreadlocks, myself).  It grabs people's attention and draws them to your blog.

But to ignore the facts about this band and declare them as "one of the worst" shows pure musical ignorance.  First, they are proven survivors: Their career spans DECADES despite drug/alcohol adversities, changes in the public's musical tastes, and the collapse of the record industry.  Second, they've been pioneers.  Just look at their policy toward tapers, their internet sales of records/shows, and their enormous and highly successful festivals.   No other single band could draw 85,000 fans on the dawn of the millennium.   Third, this band exudes musical talent unlike any other.  Even the most cynical, casual listener would agree that these guys can make their instruments sing.

Rolling Stone declared them "the most important band of the 90's".  The industry's leading publication doesn't make that declaration for a band sucks.

Bradenwyat
Bradenwyat

Wow, how topical, quoting phish lyrics that were written nearly 20 years ago....

njlorax
njlorax

You obviously don't know shit about music.....you are qualified to give zero opinions.....

Babybabybabyoh
Babybabybabyoh

LA Weekly is a joke tabloid... right? I mean Phish is probably one of the most talented and successful bands of this generation... no exaggeration. Rolling Stone called them "the most important band of the 90s" and their Big Cypress NYE festival was the world's largest private millennium gathering and they have been playing sold out shows for nearly 30 years!

So maybe their lyrics are cryptic and quirky? Maybe LA Weekly writers can only comprehend  Beiber lyrics? So long baby baby baby oh... like baby baby baby oh... baby baby baby oh... this is the first and last time I check out this tabloid.

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