Michael Jackson's "Wanna Be Startin' Something": Why This Song Sucks

[Editor's note: Why This Song Sucks determines why particular tracks blow using science. It appears on West Coast Sound every Wednesday.]

Song: Michael Jackson's "Wanna Be Startin' Something"

History: "Wanna Be Startin' Something" is the fourth single from Michael Jackson's album Thriller (said The Office's Andy Bernard: "Maybe you've heard of it?"). It received a Grammy nomination in 1984 for Best R&B song, despite the fact that he spends a valuable portion of the last third of the song shouting, "You're a vegetable." For real. Read the lyrics.

What's that you say, Tupac and Jimi Hendrix and Led Zeppelin and The Doors and Bob Marley? You're mad you never won a Grammy. Well, fuck you, you should've written more songs about shallots.

Shallots.jpg
Atmospherics: Skittish, flitting snares; hee-hees; ma ma say, ma ma sah, ma mah coo sahs; throbbing bass lines; piano somethings.

Scientific Analysis: Michael Jackson does not suck. Clearly. But that doesn't mean that everything he did didn't suck. I mean, Patrick Swayze rocked tits. And it's impossible to make it through Point Break or Road House without getting a MAN ERECTION. But he also made To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar, and even Halle Berry in Catwoman was like, "Jesus, this is for shit" while she was watching it.

Oh, a quick explanation for those that don't know: Ideologically, a MAN ERECTION is completely different from a normal erection. The structure and function are the same -- it's still just blood flowing to the penis -- but a MAN ERECTION possesses zero implications of arousal.

Rather, it's the ultimate sign of respect among men. That's why it's in all caps. It's kind of like a salute between Marines, except you do it with your penis instead of your hand, so that makes it more prestigious and amazing, like picking up a towel off the floor or punching in the key code at an apartment complex's entrance.

A man gets a MAN ERECTION when he sees other men do ultra-awesome things. It is entirely reflexive, which is where the popular saying, "The mouth may lie, but the penis does not" came from. Actually, it's so uncontrollable that that's why guys wear cups when they play football; not to protect the genitals, but to muzzle MAN ERECTIONs.


My Voice Nation Help
62 comments
Sort: Newest | Oldest
timothy3
timothy3

Correction: @WTF_Over

Oh no OF COURSE you are a disturbed character!

timothy3
timothy3

Oh no OF COURSE you are a disturbed character!

edithamillan
edithamillan

Have you considered working online it is one of the fastest growing industry today..working at the comfort of your home is really convenient specially for mom's or working student like me..I basically earn 70 dollars an hour  just by copy pasting data in certain site..read more and visit our site...U.S and U.K Residents are prioritized..MakeCash10.com

edithamillan
edithamillan

Have you considered working online it is one of the fastest growing industry today..working at the comfort of your home is really convenient specially for mom's or working student like me..I basically earn 70 dollars an hour  just by copy pasting data in certain site..read more and visit our site...U.S and U.K Residents are prioritized..http://tinyurl.com/845w3zq

edithamillan
edithamillan

@twitter-43767580:disqus my buddy's ex-wife made $13944 past week. she has been working on the internet and bought a $481600 condo. All she did was get lucky and put to work the instructions shown on this site MakeCash10.comONLY

WTF_Over
WTF_Over

These comments are WAY better than the article.  Carry on my good people.  R.I.P MJ!

This is just awful
This is just awful

Hideously unfunny and not clever in the least. They should hire a 10 year-old to write about farts, that would be way more funny than this disaster. It really doesn't matter to me if you make fun of Michael Jackson but my god, this was just bad, bad writing. Really reads like someone did way too much blow and therefore thinks their lame jokes are HILARIOUS.

Jim Laspesa
Jim Laspesa

What an embarrassing pile of dog shit excuse for music journalism. What are you, 12? Why green lights this shit?

ultravioletrae
ultravioletrae

Why do they let people write about music they clearly don't understand?  Filling space with stultifying minute detail about MAN ERECTION?  Is this supposed to be amusing?  Someone needs to wake the editor who is asleep at the wheel.  

John
John

Nothing going to be started by you Shea.

Natty Dread
Natty Dread

 Shea Serrano        never in this life time will you ever accomplish what MJ has. never will you have the fame and the power MJ had. when he died the world literally stopped! farrah fawcett died that day, we were at war, along with every thing else going on in the world, but  everyone was talking about MJ. all over the world people came out in droves to mourn MJ and to celebrate his music and his life! flash mobs at mall, in the middle of the street were crying and doing michael jackson dances. during the trial, people flew to the US from other countries just to stand outside the court room! it may never happen, but a member of congress suggested making permanent a Michael Jackson day! MJ broke records only to be matched by Whitney Houston! another great singer and tragic lost. this country thought they had something in elvis, who stole his dance moves from blacks! this country thought they had something in the beatles until Mike and Whitney came along and broke all of their records! I could talk forever about both of their accomplishments like Whitney singing the star spangled banner like it was never sang before or since!  Her performance reached the Top 20 on the US Hot 100, making her the only act to turn the national anthem into a pop hit of that magnitude.  Rolling Stone commented that "her singing stirs such strong patriotism. and she was on drugs then.  Her performance ranked No. 1 on the 25 most memorable music moments in NFL history list. VH1 listed her performance as one of the greatest moments that rocked TV. She and MJ are in the book of world records. people were upset when the flags in jersey were lowered for her. oh well! she more than deserved it! how many others received that honor! other than crackhead elvis.

MJ and Whitney had issues as most do. some handled theirs better, some did worse. but never will you or any one else belittle them or minimize who they were! there has been no one like them! they continue to be awesome role models like our great president Barack Obama. who is great and unique in his own right!  Love always to Whitney, MJ, and the Obamas!

Warius Gaius
Warius Gaius

These are my favourite articles on the blog. Because the writer is so blatently trolling you and still you commenters are acting all hurt. Mission accomplished.

MJFan
MJFan

Wanna Be Startin' Something doesn't suck...you do.

Non-hysterical MJ fan
Non-hysterical MJ fan

Calm down folks.  This is obviously a satire of the "Honey Badger" genre, and right now the guy is giggling at all the overzealous MJ-fan hysterics that have resulted from his Red Bull fueled random non-rant.

I'm a huge MJ fan, and love "Wanna Be...", but this is still fairly funny.  Don't get me wrong, it's stupid and I have no idea how LA Weekly sanctioned it, but you can't call it hating if he starts with calling MJ awesome, ends with calling him Boss, and in the middle goes perpendicular about homoerotic reactions to football.  This was obviously written as an excuse to print the word "ERECTION" several times and to create a flowchart ending with "You're a vegetable".  

I get it.  Write on, kid.

Buzzoff69
Buzzoff69

 The issue isn't about Michael Jackon, I'm not even a fan. The problem is this lousy, lazy excuse for writing. The L.A. Weekly used to have some truly talented writers passing along useful info, pertinent news and entertaining editorials. THIS on the other hand, it's just crap.

Cat
Cat

This was one of the dumbest things I ever read 1/3 of.

Macie
Macie

Hi, read your article it is really funny and I am sure you really do understand what the song was talking about ya know people starting stuff by talking trash, having babies when you can't feed yourself ya know real stuff that most folks can relate too. But I'm sure you wrote this to get attention you couldn't be that much of a shllot; and when he says you're a vegatable this means 'you're stupid.

Anonymouse
Anonymouse

Haha, I read these articles just to laugh at such stupidity.

Delila Zuniga
Delila Zuniga

YOU FUCKING HATING DOUSHE BAG!!! I'M SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE HATING ON MICHAEL JACKSON BEFORE AND AFTER HIS PASSING. PEOPLE ALWAYS WANTED TO COME UP BY TALKING SHIT ABOUT HIM!YOU'RE JUST A LOSER TRYING TO GET ATTENTION WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. NOW YOU GOT YOUR 5 MINUTES OF SHAME SO I SUGGEST YOU GET A REAL JOB AND QUIT TRYING TO COME UP OFF OTHER PEOPLE!!! MICHAEL JACKSON WAS AND ALWAYS BE " THE KING" ALL OF HIS MUSIC ARE MASTER PIECES, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU LOSER!!!!!

Smiley Jackson
Smiley Jackson

Whoever wrote this is seriously a hater & doesn't know music. He didn't literally mean "You're a vegetable." After that he says, "They still hate you. You're a vegetable." Which means, he's metaphorically speaking. He also says "They eat off of you" Get what I'm saying?  YOU need to reread the lyrics. Your article sucks ass.

cawobeth
cawobeth

Are you entering this in some contest for the the most ignorant article or the most crass one ?Maybe you miss the meaning of this song because you work for media and are immersed in all the BS of the biz.Guess you dodn't dance much either because "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin" is a great song to dance to.Oh, and guess what ? This song took on renewed meaning when it was deliberately chosen as the opening song for This Is It. You wouldn't understand but you just might someday.

Skioop29
Skioop29

uummm simply put..you and your writing suck..not enough room on the internet for your useless commentary.. 

wayne davies
wayne davies

The guy who written this article clearly did it to get some attention. MJ was an amazing talent and this guy clearly has no idea about  that. If you like MJ or not " Wanna Be Startin" is a classic MJ song and no one can deny that. Stars of today do there best to create the magic of the Thriller Album and they all fail because MJ was one of a kind.

Melanie
Melanie

Spare me-- If you are too dense, to understand - what Michael Jackson was writing and singing about in this song. Then, you have my sympathy!  And I suggest, that you find something useful to do with your time- instead of writing such an ignorant article

Ryan Burton
Ryan Burton

OMG the journalist is a TOOL! an utter DRIP! HAHA what are you going on about mate? you told us to listen to the lyrics but you clearly did not do this yourself! when michael is talking about Vegetables he is talking about PEOPLE! people who live Vegetable lives and dont think for themselves and they need to wake up!Also you majorly failed with your MAN ERECTION elaboration ... I will only let you in on a little secret ... no one else gets them!!!! you are in fact a HOMOSEXUAL. Screwing! 

Natália oliveira
Natália oliveira

What a pointless article! I can barely understand what this guy is trying to say... Were you on drugs when you wrote this shit? "Wanna be startin' something" is a classical MJ song and you clearly don't understand the meaning of it. You seems well informed about this MAN ERECTION thing, this says a lot about you. But you should also inform and educate yourself about music before writing pointless things.

elson
elson

"Why This Song Sucks" is perhaps the worst part of the LA Weekly, for the following reasons: 

1. This is not "science," it's bullshit logic by people who have no knowledge of anything. 2. You guys know absolutely nothing about music.3. Like 98% of rock journalists, you are judging "music" by lyrical content alone. Hello? It's fucking MUSIC, not poetry.4. Where's the analysis of chord progression? Melodic/harmonic content? How do the sounds fall in the frequency spectrum? Have you measured the average RMS level of the recording? Oh, right, you have absolutely no fucking clue about what any of those things are.5. Again, you guys know absolutely nothing about music. 

Shea Serrano
Shea Serrano

Sir, thank you. But I'll ask you to read it again. I think I addressed every single one of your criticisms within the article, except I did so without directly doing so, which, FYI, is some upper echelon MAN ERECTION stuff. Thank you. 

twitter @tsairox
twitter @tsairox

Well you didn't achieve the man or erection you were looking for from me! Wanna be starting something from MJ rules! Twitter: @tsairox

Colette
Colette

The most pointless article ever, and it was obvously written with this title to get hits because everyone knows MJ is still the most popular artist of all time even aftrer his death, so I don't even give a damn about what he says because WBSS is all about crap like this. MJ will always be the King of Pop.

JESSICA MURPHY
JESSICA MURPHY

WELL MICHAEL JACKSONS SONG ROCKS. HE HAS MORE TALENTED THAN EVERY OTHER ARTIST OUT THERE. THIS ARTICLE SUCKS AND HAS ALOT OF JEOLOUSLY TO IT. WHEN IT COMES TO MICHAEL JACKSON ABOUT ANY BLOGS OR JOURNALIST WRITTING ABOUT HIM OR HIS NEGATIVE. THESE PEOPLE WILL DO OR SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIM FOR MONEY AS IN PROFITING OFF HIS DEATH. SO THIS ASSWHOLE SHOULD STFU ABOUT SAYING MJ'S SONG SUCKS. BECAUSE HIS SONG ROCKS AND ITS VERY POPULAR TO HIS OTHER SONGS ON THE SAME ALBUM.  SO FUCK YOU U   JEOLOUS HATER YOUR ARTICLE IS THE ONE THAT SUCKS. YOU GET O RATING FROM ME ON THIS STUPID ARTICLE. MJ GETS 5 STARS OF RATING FROM ME BECAUSE HIS SONG IS GREAT AND IT ROCKS.

timothy3
timothy3

The song rocks! Rather you should ask yourself why you suck and ponder on this!

Shea Serrano
Shea Serrano

None of these comments are giving me a MAN ERECTION, you guys. 

timothy3
timothy3

And I wonder WHY you've chosen just me to reply (!)

timothy3
timothy3

@WTF_Over Oh no OF COURSE you are a disturbed character!

WTF_Over
WTF_Over

It's all your fault TIMOTHY!  

John Gonzalez
John Gonzalez

THEN GO EAT A BURRITO, YOU MEXINCAN CUNT. AND QUIT YOU JOB BECAUSE YOU'RE TERRIBLE.. IDC ABOUT MUSIC. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHY SOMETHING SUCKS. THEN BACK IT UP. EVEN IF THIS WAS A JOKE ARTICLE, IT'S NOT FUNNY. NO ONE WHO READ IT LIKES IT. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT TELL YOU. YOU ARE A JOKE.

Fatimah_80
Fatimah_80

enough already with dicing michael jackson none of the artists male or female other than janet jackson can ever match up to him. i hope one day his kids surpass his talent and genious.

ben
ben

wtf. the song is a classic. you seriously dont know the meaning of the song you douche. And why are you giving us a lesson on man erection. that is just disturbing. wtf do you mean men give other men salutes through erections. which world are you living in. and for your own safety dont ever tell anyone your saluting him through an erection.  

ChelleDJackson
ChelleDJackson

Stop the hating on MJ please! Clearly "Wanna Be Starting Something" is a classic song. Not just because of the rhythms & sounds, but of it's lyrical content. The song is genius!!!

Jaclyn027
Jaclyn027

This is possibly the worst article I've ever read in my life! Its all over the place, it doesn't actually make any points about the song or any music for that matter. Most of it was about your stupid man erection theory. You can't say a song sucks, that you're going to prove it with science, then go off topic completely! Boring and pointless article.

JonnyOneNote
JonnyOneNote

One of MJ's sickest songs ever! Nothing about it sucks. One hook after another after another after another. Every rhythm, every synth line, every vocal part, every guitar part is a hook and they each hit immediately after the previous hook. It's probably the funkiest song I've ever heard and unlike anything I've heard before or after it's creation. People like Pharrell Williams have been trying to duplicate it ever since. 

Oliapanidou
Oliapanidou

My dear friend let me set the record straight for you. When Michael Jackson wrote the lyrics "you're vegetable'' he was definitely not referring to a vegetable. '' You're vegetable is a metaphor that was used to describe how mass media, television and sensational press (like this article) can defame a famous person and how easily at the same can tear down his career and eat him like a vegetable.So now my dear friend I want you to study all of the above and learn them by heart you are going to sit on a test on Monday morning.

MishapsGalore
MishapsGalore

In the true spirit of the song, my guess you suceeded in starting something. Kudos. Or should I say, hee-hee.

Now Trending

From the Vault

 

Los Angeles Event Tickets
©2013 LA Weekly, LP, All rights reserved.
Browse Voice Nation
  • Voice Places Los Angeles

    Voice Places

    Find everything you're looking for in your city

  • Happy Hour App

    Happy Hour App

    Find the best happy hour deals in your city

  • Daily Deals

    Daily Deals

    Get today's exclusive deals at savings of anywhere from 50-90%

  • Best Of

    Best Of...

    Check out the hottest list of places and things to do around your city