Amoeba's Vinyl Vault: Treasure Trove or Legal Sticky Wicket?

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Timothy Norris
While the corpses of corporate music retail chains litter strip malls where outlets like Tower Records and Blockbuster Music once stood, Amoeba Music is an independent juggernaut with three California-based stores the size of supermarkets. They've been a destinations for music aficionados for more than two decades, places that shine the light on small artists and labels and give fledgling releases an audience that, in many cases, they might not attain in big box stores.

A large part of Amoeba's charm is the thousands of used records that are traded in and given a chance at a second life in their used bins. But its latest project has many folks talking about copyright law.

As used vinyl comes through the doors of the store, employees have been culling albums to record, master and then sell digitally the songs on the new Vinyl Vaults section of their website. You won't find the last Radiohead album there or other big time releases from big time artists. The focus is the left-of-center, the self-released, one-off singles recorded in someone's basement; it's become an absolute treasure trove of old blues ripped from shellac 78s and unreleased psychedelic workouts. "We've been doing this a few years and in the course of buying stuff at our trade counter we've found some amazing vinyl artifacts that, [we've discovered] through our research, are not available digitally," says Jim Henderson, who co-owns the stores.

Henderson says most of the material available in the Vinyl Vaults is in fact licensed, but admits some of the works are not. This is where things get sticky. "If we deem that it's not available digitally, then we try to make contact with the person who owns it. If the person who owns it is interested, we send them a copy of our Vinyl Vaults agreement, do a deal, and put their project up. Make a digital master of the record and clean it up. If we can't find the rights' holder, we have a decision to make -- if it's something that we think we can put up and help expose to the world. If it's something that belongs to somebody, it says right there on our page that we will take it down or make a deal."

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While giving customers access to music they crave (and otherwise may not be able to attain) is the dream of every record store, the legal ramifications of selling unlicensed releases remain unclear.

"The classic line is it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission," says Rob Sevier, co-owner of the Chicago-based Numero Group, a label that specializes in reissuing lost and forgotten relics of music and has garnered a trio of Grammy nominations by doing so. "We go to people who 40 years ago did something that nobody has spoken about since. But you come to them and say you want to do it and show them a simple agreement and you get, 'I don't know if I want to do this.' It's a no-brainer of the century that someone is going to offer you a little money."

"We're trying to do the right thing here," says Henderson. "100 percent of anything that we're selling that we don't have an agreement for is going into an escrow account." But no matter if Amoeba has the best of intentions; selling copyrighted material without contract from the rights' holders could be problematic.

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richardstarr
richardstarr

I look at it this way, they are preserving music that might otherwise be lost.

Eventually there does need to be an adjustment in the law to deal with true orphaned works.  In reality, the copyrights should have expired years if not decades ago.  Only by the creation of the DMCA which unreasonably stole from the public domain to grant ownership to mega-corporations via the paying off of nearly every member of congress have many of these works not become available as they should.

Artists were "compensated" based upon a formula created when copyright was far more limited and these artists usually did not receive any additional compensation once the copyright was extended.

Cesar Haro
Cesar Haro

There are those who still shop at Amoeba because there are a minority of people who still value art. The digitization and free access of art and media have diminished the value of art itself. There is something to be said for spending hard earned money on a beautifully produced album. Holding it in your hands and feeling tis essence. When art becomes so easily accessible, it's appreciated less. The floodgates being opened in making all music available instantaneously and for free is spoken of as some kind of revolution. Then why has popular music been so abysmal, so atrocious for the last decade. There will never be another Nirvana. A band that emerges out of nowhere with that kind of raw talent and passion could never succeed and make an impact in the current musical culture. Sadly, in an age of immediate gratification and entitled youth, youth who grow up not having any kind of sincere appreciation for art and hold the belief that they deserve to have whatever music they want free. That it's obscene that they ever be asked to pay for something that someone worked to produce. Well these coming generations of narcissistic, entitled youth will unbeknownst to them be forced to live with the consequences of their actions, in contending with the most banal, shallow, watered down, musical culture in the history of humanity. And this is all they'll know. And art becomes something less.

Phitoe Says
Phitoe Says

Damit! Now I'm getting that ole Amoeba itch.

Holly Keenan
Holly Keenan

Wow, this makes me feel ancient but at least I was able to experience both worlds pre the digital era & post. Of course now it's so quick & easy to download your music but the experience of going to a record store & hanging out and talking with people about music in the store is of course gone. I spent my teen & college years thumbing thru so many record bins in stores across the country. My favorite record stores were in SF & Berkeley. FYI, there's a very cool small vinyl store on Hillhurst in Los Feliz, great jazz selection.

Dave Parker
Dave Parker

I work nearby and go every day! Just being inside makes me happy!

Marco Salgado
Marco Salgado

Nope, why buy when music is free online? Why give them 15 to 20 dollars per album when we are gonna give them all our paycheck to see them live in concert. It is an even trade off if you ask me....

blazinnathan
blazinnathan

@Marco SalgadoAfter spending a year or more making a record, they have to travel to YOU for their pay? Sounds pretty selfish. True fans buy the album AND go to the show. And maybe buy a shirt or poster, too.
I'm not naive, and I like to spend my money wisely.... and yeah, I download stuff just like everyone else. But ultimately, I reward the artists who I end up listening to the most for the work they've done by purchasing said work. There are plenty of legal ways to figure out what you like before committing to a purchase, too... Spotify, YouTube, bandcamp, and countless blogs that "preview" and stream music, etc etc etc.

Ricardo Cabrera
Ricardo Cabrera

hell yeah!!! Amoeba is my favorite store in hollywood :)

Jules Jay Tee
Jules Jay Tee

Thank God for Amoeba. Online shopping is great, but nothing can replace a record store experience.

Lisa Roberts
Lisa Roberts

Yes, I prefer to hold the physical media in hand. I love to see/feel how the artists translate that particular music project visually and I especially love soaking up every single crumb of lyrics & liner notes. I like that iTunes has addressed this with the "iTunes LP" offering, but it still falls way short of the feeling you get with the actual physical result of the artistry.

Byron Blocker
Byron Blocker

Rarely these days. All digital for me now unless I'm looking for a specific vinyl, for which I'll usually have better luck looking online.

David Presley
David Presley

Nope... had never even heard of them til this post.

Dominic Pace
Dominic Pace

Love the store, but no longer need records,cds,, or dvds

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